Jeffersons Ghost
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Tue Oct-19-10 01:30 PM
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Americans have short memories |
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Obama is getting blamed for no jobs and a bad economy. It's not fair to blame him, because the damage Bush did in eight years can't be repaired in two, especially if you don't have the support of Big Business.
Big Business wants Democrats to fail. And these corporations don't care if America fails with them. All they care about is more profit and less taxes. Putting Republicans back in power will guarantee more power for management, which is why they're sitting on money instead of investing it in creating jobs. These corporations are only going to create jobs in China and other countries, where laborers will work long hours for nearly nothing. They couldn't care less about America.
Americans seem to have forgotten that Republicans got us into this mess. If these sold-out politicians get back into power they'll reward their Big Business supporters with lop-sided import laws that let them finish bleeding our economy dry.
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Tue Oct-19-10 01:48 PM
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that America likes to be negative and miserable, thats why they keep voting republican.
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Tue Oct-19-10 01:48 PM
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2. I am starting to think there may be some truth in the point |
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nearly all investment analysts are making about the reason companies aren't hiring. I hear daily on CNBC, investment talk shows and reading investment periodicals that the reason companies are holding back on hiring is uncertainty about how the HCR bill, taxes and the financial regulations are going to affect their business. I thought it was a huge mistake to get involved in health care in the middle of a recession for one thing. I agree the financial regulations had to be addressed and even should have more strict. The question on extending the Bush tax cuts should have been made plain from the beginning, the President campaigned on extending the tax cuts for people making under $250,000 and is not negotiable. Eliminating the tax cuts for the people making over $250,000 is not negotiable unless the Republicans tell us specifically how they will pay for them.
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Tue Oct-19-10 01:58 PM
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3. Never mind that the HCR bill, piss-poor as it is, is projected by the OMB |
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to save 900 billion over the next 10 years - yeah, I'm sure that makes a lot of businesses nervous.
It's all bullshit - the 'big businesses' mentioned above are not American companies. They are extra-national corporations who hide their profits in the Caymans so as to not pay taxes here, while their management takes home millions in bonuses. They aren't worried whether America is solvent or not, or if Americans have jobs, or any of that, and they are NOT 'uncertain' as to how these regulations will affect them - they are deliberately sabotaging the economy for the sake of squeezing out 1% more profit under a Republican regime rather than losing 1% of profit under a Democratic regime.
And when the people figure that out, there's a whole bunch of CEOs that are going to go the way of Cecescu.
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Tue Oct-19-10 02:00 PM
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4. the dems should be making that case. but they're not. |
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Tue Oct-19-10 02:28 PM
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11. I agree. Lots of them are in bed with Big Business too |
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Tue Oct-19-10 02:19 PM
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7. Big business doesn't give a damn if it saves the government |
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$900 billion, what it cost their bottom line is all they care about. Saving $900 billion also assumes the cuts promised in the bill actually are carried out. We already see companies dropping the insurance for employees.
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Tue Oct-19-10 02:19 PM
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8. To give credit to one CNBC reporter, Erin Burnett, |
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she has said repeatedly that the CEOs she talks to have said they are not hiring because consumer spending is not up, not because of uncertainty about taxes, regulations and healthcare.
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Tue Oct-19-10 02:25 PM
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9. It's a vicious circle people don't have jobs or are |
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worried about keeping the job they got so they are not spending. Companies aren't hiring because people aren't buying things. I think after all this election bullshit is over and you don't have all the negativity 24/7 in the media consumers will start spending, at least I hope so.
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Tue Oct-19-10 02:25 PM
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Edited on Tue Oct-19-10 02:25 PM by doc03
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Tue Oct-19-10 02:04 PM
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5. no, the blame is disingenuous, but he hasn't really helped |
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by being a corporatist. He had a shining moment to be a Man of the People, and chose the Banksters and the MIC instead.
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Tue Oct-19-10 02:14 PM
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6. They can't make the case to return to R policies, though. Thus the "Tea Party." |
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Which is not much more than a half-@ssed attempted co-opt of Libertariansim, without the better bits. How they translate the disaster of an under-regulated market and 2.5 ill-advised wars into "too much government" will remain a mystery for the ages.
The Obama administration hasn't fixed (either "everything" or "anything" depending on who you speak to) and I would argue the extent it failed to do that is the exact extent to which either 1) Republicans got their way by force or 2) They were allowed to in the name of "compromise and practicality," i.e., pleasing corporate interests.
I don't think Republicans will be charging back into office on a tidal wave of "Taking our Country Back," but Democrats could have done a lot more, and could now be SAYING a lot more, to remind people that the hole we're in was dug by letting Republicans suck the life out this country for the benefit of a privileged few. Worse, though, out of the confusion of evil Republican policies and half-hearted liberal attempts to fix them, we may end up with (gulp) Senator Angle, et al.
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Tue Oct-19-10 07:42 PM
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13. No. The media doesn't do it's job. |
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Tue Oct-19-10 07:45 PM
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Why, Americans are FAMOUS for their careful, respectful observance of historical nuances and significant precedences.
And I shall ask to to RETRACT that statement, sir!
sorry :hide:
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Tue Oct-19-10 07:46 PM
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15. Multi National Corps and Bankers pay no taxes... |
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.. they build no factories.. they employ no people.. they suck the life out of America.
And what do we do? We reward tham and give them tax breaks for taking jobs to China.
Go figure...
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