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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 08:19 PM
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A few paragraphs from Taibbi's article on selling off our highways, ports..to foreign countries.
Edited on Tue Oct-19-10 08:25 PM by madfloridian
It's a long article, and only picking a few excerpts is hard to do. It caught my interest because Florida has considered selling off or leasing for up to 75 years such things as the Sunshine Skyway Bridge and Alligator Alley to save money for the state. In fact I believe the Florida Turnpike is partly or mostly run privately.

From Rolling Stone, which has done some great research lately while most of the media sits on their collective butts and wait for talking points to come to them from the political leaders.

Griftopia: Bubble Machines, Vampire Squids, and the Long Con That is Breaking America

As it turns out, the Pennsylvania Turnpike deal almost went through, only to be killed by the state legislature, but there were others just like it that did go through, most notably the sale of all the parking meters in Chicago to a consortium that included the Abu Dhabi Investment Authority, from the United Arab Emirates.

There were others: A toll highway in Indiana. The Chicago Skyway. A stretch of highway in Florida. Parking meters in Nashville, Pittsburgh, Los Angeles, and other cities. A port in Virginia. And a whole bevy of Californian public infrastructure projects, all either already leased or set to be leased for fifty or seventy-five years or more in exchange for one-off lump sum payments of a few billion bucks at best, usually just to help patch a hole or two in a single budget year.


Still not sure what stretch of highway was sold off in Florida. I know that by 2008 or 2009 the sales of Alligator Alley and the Sunshine Bridge were halted temporarily. I do know that some toll roads in Central Florida were to be managed by foreign powers, but it is almost impossible to get the details.

Seems Mayor Daley told Obama that if we sold off our public assets we would never ever have to raise taxes.

And America is taking Daley's advice. At this writing Nashville and Pittsburgh are speeding ahead with their own parking meter deals, as is L.A. New York has considered it, and the city of Miami just announced its own plans for a leasing deal. There are now highways, airports, parking garages, toll roads — almost everything you can think of that isn't nailed down and some things that are — for sale, to bidders unknown, around the world.


This paragraph caught my eye.

When you're trying to sell a highway that was once considered one of your nation's great engineering marvels — 532 miles of hard-built road that required tons of dynamite, wood, and steel and the labor of thousands to bore seven mighty tunnels through the Allegheny Mountains — when you're offering that up to petro-despots just so you can fight off a single-year budget shortfall, just so you can keep the lights on in the state house into the next fiscal year, you've entered a new stage in your societal development.


I know that in 2007 Florida was planning to sell off some roads and bridges.

It is almost impossible to know if it happened recently, though it was stopped back then.

TAMPA - Faced with a $2.5 billion budget shortfall over the next two years, Florida leaders are considering selling 50-year leases on some state toll roads and bridges in exchange for large sums of cash from private investors.

In a preliminary study, the Florida's Department of Transportation estimated a 50-year lease on Tampa's Sunshine Skyway Bridge could be worth $1.3 billion if investors were allowed to set tolls at "market rates." The study used the example of the SunPass toll, which would double in the first, fourth and 10th years of the deal, climbing from 75 cents to $5 within a decade on the Skyway.

Florida would follow the lead of other places including Indiana, Chicago and San Francisco, which have made billions from similar deals to sell road leases to private entities. Florida's $8 billion-a-year road construction budget faces challenges such as declining gasoline tax revenue and higher materials costs.

.."Opponents worry Florida drivers could get a raw deal over the long-term because private investors would make big profits from aggressive toll hikes. And they fear privatization could hurt the poor.

......"Take Alligator Alley. For many people, that's the only way to go from east to west Florida and vice versa," said Sen. Mike Fasano, a New Port Richey Republican who is chairman of the Senate Transportation Committee. "It would be controlled by a private entity that could raise tolls ad nauseam. It could make it unaffordable for people to travel."


I don't know their status now, but this link from the Florida Turnpike website shows that road to be at least partially privatized.

Over the past 12 years, Florida's Turnpike has made substantial improvements to the existing road system, acquired and assumed responsibility for a project completed by a local expressway authority, delivered six expansion projects, contracted most in-house functions to the private sector, promoted customer service, maintained financial stability and improved bond ratings.


Taibbi summed up the Chicago parking meter fiasco this way.

So basically Morgan Stanley found a bunch of investors, including themselves, to put up over a billion dollars in December 2008; a big chunk of those investors then bailed out to make way in February 2009 for this Deeside Investments, which was 49.9 percent owned by Abu Dhabi and 50.1 percent owned by a company called Redoma SARL, about which nothing was known except that it had an address in Luxembourg.










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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 08:22 PM
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1. About those parking meters...
"But the most obnoxious part of the deal is that the city is now forced to cede control of their streets to a virtually unaccountable private and at least partially foreign-owned company. Written into the original deal were drastic price increases. In Hairston's and Colon's neighborhoods, meter rates went from 25¢ an hour to $1.00 an hour the first year, and to $1.20 an hour the year after that. And again, the city has no power to close streets, remove or move meters, or really do anything without asking the permission of Chicago Parking Meters LLC."

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/17390/222206?RS_show_page=4
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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 09:23 PM
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5. According to this article, the city still determines "meter placement, rates, and hours, but..."
http://www.chicagonewscoop.org/city-acknowledges-meters-sold-to-private-company/

In the nearly 18 months since Mayor Richard M. Daley‘s administration handed off day-to-day management of the meters—and the millions of dollars in revenues they produce every month—city officials have stressed that the public still owns the street parking system. They’ve said that the city merely forged a “public-private partnership” with Chicago Parking Meters LLC by entering into a “concession agreement” for the next 75 years.

The city received about $1.15 billion up front in return for granting Chicago Parking Meters the right to run the system and collect all the money from it through 2084. As the Chicago News Cooperative reported last week, the company is on pace to bring in more than $70 million from the system this year, largely from raising meter rates across the city. The Chicago Department of Revenue was bringing in about $20 million a year when it controlled the meter system.

Under terms of the agreement, the city retains the right to determine meter placement, rates, and hours, but it has to compensate Chicago Parking Meters every time a meter is removed or shut down for any period of time. After just the first three months of the agreement, CPM sent the city a bill for $106,440, records show. The company is still talking with city officials about what it’s owed for meter closures since last June, according to city spokesman Peter Scales.

The concession agreement also gives CPM the right to conduct its own parking meter enforcement. Since June the company has employed 10 ticket writers and plans to add five more before the end of 2010, said city revenue spokesman Ed Walsh. The city gets to keep the money from fines, but CPM is counting on stepped-up meter compliance to increase its revenues over the coming years, according to independent financial analysts who recently reviewed the company’s prospects.

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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-10 01:10 AM
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9. More on that topic from the article in the OP
"So, for example, when the new ownership told Alderman Scott Waguespack that it wanted to change the meter schedule from 9 a.m. to 6 p.m. Monday through Saturday to 8 a.m. to 9 p.m. seven days a week, the alderman balked and said he'd rather keep the old schedule, at least for 270 of his meters. Chicago Parking Meters then informed him that if he wanted to do that, he would have to pay the company $608,000 over three years."

The bigger problem was that Chicago sold out way too cheap. Daley and Co. got roughly $1.2 billion for seventy-five years' worth of revenue from 36,000 parking meters. But by hook or crook various aldermen began to find out that Daley had vastly undervalued the meter revenue.

When Waguespack did the math on that $608,000 he was going to be charged, he discovered that the company valued the meters at about 39¢ an hour, which for 36,000 meters works out to $66 million a year, or about $5 billion over the life of the contract.

"When it comes to finding a figure for the citizens of Chicago, they say the meters are worth $1.16 billion," Waguespack said shortly after the deal. "But when it comes to finding a figure to cover Morgan Stanley, they say they're worth, what, $5 billion? Who are they looking out for, the residents or Morgan Stanley?"

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/17390/222206?RS_show_page=4

608,000 to keep the old schedule. Got a new boss now.
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chervilant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-10 02:19 AM
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10. Ah, yes,
the pimping of America... Look at the lovely curve of her backside--you want a piece of that?

These vile cretins are beneath contempt. Methinks they will protest too much, when these chickens come home to roost.
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-10 04:15 PM
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27. Wonderful. Now Abu Dhabi has a private police force working for it in Chicago, too?
You sure know how to pick 'em! :hi:
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mudplanet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 09:47 PM
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6. On the upside - since the meters are no longer public property they're
fair game for random (or even better, systematic) destruction. Hand mauls should become a fashion accessory.
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-10 03:25 AM
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11. Cool Hand Luke
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dotymed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-10 07:31 AM
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14. lol.....I wish.
The property of the Gentry will be protected at all costs. That way, the Privatized Prison Industrial Complex can flourish as well.....
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 08:37 PM
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2. Thank a Republican, or one of their mimics. nt
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 09:00 PM
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3. This is the America Republicans want
and the idiots keep voting for them. When the roads etc fall into disrepair and the foreign entities don't fix them what then?
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 09:52 PM
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7. Really? I don't know a lot about Chicago politics but I think the city is in Democratic hands.
You are welcome to prove me wrong.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 09:08 PM
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4. Another symptom of an empire in decline,
Yet we're continuing to budget trillions for illegal, immoral wars.
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Lilith Velkor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 10:53 PM
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8. Don't follow leaders, watch the parking meters
(The pump don't work 'cause the vandals took the handles.)
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voteearlyvoteoften Donating Member (548 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-10 07:12 AM
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12. am kick
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dotymed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-10 07:29 AM
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13. Fascism is much better than Socialism.
What little "we the people" own is being "leased" instead of Taxing the the few wealthy (corrupt as hell) masters of America.

"WHEN THE WALLS
COME TUMBLIN' DOWN".............
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Klukie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-10 08:41 AM
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15. I wonder if this expose is the reason Mayor Daley won't be seeking re-election?
Edited on Wed Oct-20-10 09:08 AM by Klukie
Or maybe he just got paid a handsome sum for the deal:shrug:
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-10 08:45 AM
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16. The Indiana Turnpike was sold off 2 or 3 years ago to some
Australian/Spanish consortium, and there hasn't been a shred of improvement made to it! The rest areas are still complete and utter shitholes.

Compare and contrast with the continuation of the same highway into Ohio (still run by the state of Ohio), which is extremely well-maintained, and has fantastic rest areas.
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-10 08:56 AM
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17. Privatization is fascism
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Klukie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-10 09:40 AM
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18. kick
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Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-10 11:28 AM
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19. 595 in Broward is the Florida highway that got sold off. It's disgusting.
Edited on Wed Oct-20-10 11:36 AM by Edweird
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-10 12:05 PM
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20. Do you know who bought it? Hard to find info.
As the article says, these guys don't want publicity.
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Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-10 12:21 PM
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23. A company called ACS from Spain.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-10 01:19 PM
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24. Most interesting arrangement...from the article..
"The concessionaire as 'landlord' will be compensated by Florida DOT as 'tenant' renting the lanes and paying the concessionaire according to the lane availability. Florida DOT in turn will collect tolls from its 'tenant' in sublet central lanes. The state DOT therefore takes the traffic and revenue risk and has to find the difference between the revenue from toll payers and its availability payments or contracted 'rent.'

35 year concession

The only problem with this metaphor is that ACS only acts as landlord charging 'rent' to FDOT for 35 years, after which time the facility becomes the property of FDOT. Maybe it's a lease-to-purchase?"

Correct me if I am wrong, but the DOT will be paying rent to ACS?

My brain hurts, and I do not understand all this stuff.
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-10 12:08 PM
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21. k & r
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-10 12:13 PM
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22. because taxes are always evil under all circumstances. Slavery to foreign interests is better.
Edited on Wed Oct-20-10 12:13 PM by librechik
apparently...
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felix_numinous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-10 04:03 PM
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25. This IS highway robbery, literally..
jezuuuuuus how can it get any more blatant!!

:banghead:
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-10 04:10 PM
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26. We had this massive highway built by a French company
Last month after Tropical Storm Nicole devastated several roads and bridges, one community was virtually marooned as the main road was completely flooded on one side - the private highway officials refused to waive the toll - in the middle of a weather disaster.

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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-10 04:16 PM
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28. Free Traders should applaud this. "Comparative advantage" and all that crap...
:puke:
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soryang Donating Member (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-10 08:11 PM
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29. A toll booth economy is a feudal economy
This is exactly what the founding fathers sought to escape.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 12:40 AM
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30. I'm going to read this article when I have more time.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 12:42 AM
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31. AZ has tried to sell off its prisons. Ask Jan Leatherface. Oh I forgot, she's not taking questions
Edited on Thu Oct-21-10 12:48 AM by lonestarnot
Luxembourg.
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