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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-10 05:35 AM
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Health Insurance Exchanges
They will be something less than Medicare for All, certianly.

They will be something different than a 'public option' obviously.

They will benefit the American people, greatly

http://www.jsonline.com/business/105317488.html

The linked article has more, plus the positions of the two Wisconsin gubernatorial candidates.

Where does the right get off claiming "most Americans" didn't want health care reform?
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Change Happens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-10 05:58 AM
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1. K&R
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-10 07:20 AM
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2. And the exchanges are years away and many will die in the interim.
The entire bill was a mess, but the time for implementation was way too long. I suspect they put it past the 2012 elections thinking that would make it easier for a re-election (keep in mind that Medicare was implemented within a year). Apparently, they thought their buddies at big insurance wouldn't start hiking rates to obscene levels prior to the exchanges going into operation (the higher the rates, the more welfare big insurance gets). I'm afraid those voters still alive in 2012 will be incredibly pissed off.
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BzaDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-10 07:27 AM
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3. No, they put it past 2012 to lower the 10-year cost, which was needed to get it through the Senate.
Edited on Wed Oct-20-10 07:27 AM by BzaDem
That's it.

If it wasn't delayed till 2014, it would have been delayed forever, because it wouldn't have passed.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-10 07:51 AM
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4. Agreed but the politics are ugly and speculation fuels more toxicity than a larger price tag ever
could.

The conservatives are political cowards to the point of being suicidal to the party.

Doing say...eight years at 1.2 would prove less a mess to sell to the public than six years at 900B. Same exact program. That is plenty of set up time and you look way less shady and get benefits to the people.

Its just way too long to let the rumor mill run loose and far too big a window for the insurance cartel's shenanigans.

Bad policy and horrible politics over the fear of a magic line of sticker shock. Essentially, risking the entire agenda over 19.99 versus 20 bucks. Fucking indefensible numbnut, morons.

These guys that determine our "political reality" are killing us, they both break our spirit and cohesion and gum up our legislative works to the point of passing legislation nets us in the neighborhood of nothing over sitting around bickering and accomplishing jack apple shit.

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