Talk me Down please... so EVEN IF every Democrat WON...

[JustFiveMoreMinutes]

.... what would really change in the next two years?

The administration doesn't seem intent on making anything better anymore.

Whereas the Congress may have been the most productive in 50 years....

The MSM pulls the strings... the administration is beholden to the Beltway Powers that Be....

I DONT expect in 2 years anything can be undone from the Bush administration, but even the 'little things' seem to be mountains.
So if the President isn't really in charge.. and the Beltway Powers are the true interlopers of the direction of America....

Does it REALLY matter if dumbasses are elected who CANT do anything about to SMARTasses that WONT do anything?

Just askin'..........................

[earcandle]

1. I hear you brother. In a cool world, we'd take them all down and replace them asap.

Or protest in the 200 millions... and be aligned with France.

We are fuckheads and dodo  brains, and assfucks, and lazy
bastards
and cowards.

Except me and you of course.  But we cannot do it on our own.

What to do? 

[TreasonousBastard]

2. Yes it does. First, who are you to decide just how things should be done...

There are 300 million people in this country-- many of whom don't agree with you and they have a voice. Not all of them are ignorant freepers and teabaggers. Accept that a downside of democracy is that the other side gets it way, sometimes too often.

More important, though, is that while none of us are all that happy with how things are going at this minute, it could get far worse.

Should the Republicans win the House, they are now at their most retrograde and not only would Speaker Boner attempt to undo what has been done, but the presumptive new committee chairs have pledged to "fix" Social Security by privatising it, eliminate Medicare and Medicaid, reduce or eliminate funding for education, research, and all social programs and further "improve" the nation by putting it on a proper footing once again with public prayer and more such nonsense.

Should they win the Senate, the disaster will be that the House will get its way.

On edit---

Should republicans win at the the state level, next year is redistricting. Do a quick study on "gerrymandering" and how they will ensure that they maintain power for another 5 House election cycles.

[Hannah Bell]

5. a dollar democracy. "accept that"

[TreasonousBastard]

30. And you realistically expect anything else?

[JustFiveMoreMinutes]

9. Ever read the Dune books? He made it the worst possible..

.. to awaken people. Maybe it's time to get to rock bottom so those who go 'oh yeah?' without any thought behind it finally sees the light?

[pgodbold]

23. I agree and that is why we should end filibusters

Let them appoint the worst of the worst supremes and then we put on the big boy paints when it’s our turn and impeach them. Let them have full control with no filibuster, the public can start to see what they really are.
Let 50 vote majority rule the day. It's supposed to be that way for a reason. No more minority rule.

[Gaedel]

28. Impeachment of judges

You still need two-thirds in the Senate to remove a judge, not a simple majority.

[BlueDemKev]

33. KEEP The Filibuster....

Imagine if we got rid of the filibuster....whenever the Teapublicans control both the Congress and the White House again, they will be free to pass the most fanatical legislation and liberals will have NO POWER whatsoever to stop it or even slow it down. It will be tyranny of the majority, which also is counter-conducive to a free nation where individual rights are protected.

As frustrating as it is to deal with the filibuster when one's in the majority, when we're in opposition, the filibuster is the last resort we have to be able to have ANY say in anything that gets passed.

[TreasonousBastard]

31. That's working so well in Haiti and Somalia.

[opihimoimoi]

3. Try it you might like it... :o) Positivity trumps Negativity

[JustFiveMoreMinutes]

7. I've beat my head against that Positivity Wall for so long...

... I have a splitting headache!

Anyone have any Tylenol.. THREE???

[laughingliberal]

4. K & R nt

[Radical Activist]

6. Obama consistently proposes legislation to the left of what passes Congress.

The administration isn't the problem. Even the House has done a decent job. The Senate is the problem. One of two things needs to happen. 1) We get one or two more seats in the Senate, which I think is still possible, or 2) They change the Senate filibuster rule. If either of those two things happen then we'll be in great shape.

[JustFiveMoreMinutes]

8. Thanks... a dim glimmer of hope....

[democracy1st]

15. The admin isn't the problem ?

[Radical Activist]

16. White House proposes good legislation. House passes it. Senate blocks it or waters it down.

It happens over and over again. It's pretty easy to see where the biggest problem is.

[aquart]

10. The question is, HOW MUCH WILL IT CHANGE IF THEY DON'T?

And the answer is, how much do you really like Somalia?

Now go vote.

[Touchdown]

18. How much has it changed since the GOP was in charge?

Not fucking much.

I already voted.

[Confusious]

11. what would really change in the next two years?

Well if some of the crazies get their way,

More wars, more spending, less rights, higher taxes on the middle class, and....

A REAL DEPRESSION!

Not your grandparents depression mind you, a really really bad depression. Not this (weak ass ) strong recession.

It's voting for the lesser of two toilets. Who will send the country down faster?

If all I can get it status quo, then I guess I'll take it.

Of course, you're lucky. You might actually get what you want in your life. I will never ever get what I want, but at least I have a snowballs chance in hell with the democrats. I have nothing with the republicans.

[JustFiveMoreMinutes]

39. Good points.

As for getting what I want in life... well, thought that was happening.. but on top of the Economic Downturn... found out my other half had already dug a personal financial crisis hole that I'll probably be buried in.

So.. whereas the first 54 years have been fun and fulfilling... whatever is left for me is going to be rocky.

I AM fortunate that my profession is somewhat recession proof.. and secondly, I'm free to work ANYwhere in the world, so I'm not limited to a 50 mile radius from where I currently live.

Also in those 54 years, what I 'wanted from life' has changed and seems to be changing more rapidly.
But for the sake of my grandkids who have less choices and options than I did..............

We must do it for them.

[sandnsea]

12. Ah, you live in Nevada

Maybe you should try bluer pastures. I can understand how some folks who aren't having needs met at the county or state level would be frustrated and blame the federal.

[JustFiveMoreMinutes]

40. LOL! Well due to the Housing Restructering going on here..

.. I might not have much of a choice! :) :)

[the redcoat]

13. The biggest problem

is not that a Democratic congress wouldn't do enough, it's that a Republican congress would undo the last 2 years...Undo healthcare reform, give into more bank deregulation, give cuts to the rich, etc

[yourout]

14. Supreme Court vacancys are the biggest thing at stake in this election.

Keeping the Senate is a must because it is likely there will be at least one SCOTUS vacancy in the next two years.

[jgraz]

17. You don't think Obama will "work with the Republicans" on that?

I fully expect that if someone like Scalia or Thomas leaves the Court, Obama will pre-compromise by nominating a right-of-center jurist to replace them.

[verges]

32. Yes he would.

But right of center is better than far right. It's replacing Ginsberg that I would be worried about. A liberal replacement would be an impossibility.

[Warren DeMontague]

19. Which would you rather have- a plate full of slightly stale bread, or a plate full of shit?

Because that's your choice.

[JustFiveMoreMinutes]

35. LOL! Can't argue with that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[customerserviceguy]

20. Well, that scenario just isn't going to happen

I'm already thinking past this election, where DINO's and Blue Dogs will be washed out, and replaced with ineffective nutball tea partiers, who will have President Obama's veto to overcome.

In two years, we should have solidly progressive candidates to replace the baggers, and we can resume progress once again.

[seabeyond]

21. they may not be as major changes as we want, but untrue saying obama does nothing to

make things better.

gonna bitch, have at least a minimal amount of honesty

[JustFiveMoreMinutes]

41. HONESTLY............

I was having a bad day... and a couple of cocktails......................... my bad.

[NNN0LHI]

22. Keeping the Nuclear Football away from some rapture loving Teapublican fundy is plenty enough for me

So yea, it matters a lot.

If someone can't see that there is nothing I can do for them? Thats why these idiots saying, "I ain't voting for Obama", don't do anything for me accept make me hate them. Those fuckheads don't care if my grandchildren die a horrible death because of their hurt feeling over their personal issue? Well, fuck them too.

Don

[geek tragedy]

24. "The administration doesn't seem intent on making anything better anymore."

That is your biased perception, not objective reality.

[JustFiveMoreMinutes]

36. Well, yeah... was having a bad day.

Don't kick a man when he's down. :)

[NoPasaran]

25. Yeah, you might as well sit at home and sniff glue

[JustFiveMoreMinutes]

43. Glue? That's so 1960! LOL.. seriously

I'm back to my fighting self!

GIVE"M HELL BARAK!

[KharmaTrain]

26. Depends...

The biggest problem has been the Senate. The House passed out a lot of Progressive legislation that got sliced and diced once it got to the Senate...primarily since the GOTB required 60 votes just to bring a bill to the floor. It's a roadblock that has stymied anything from moving forward and was due to weak leadership by Reid. He agreed twice to "organizational" rules that allowed McConnell to put up roadblocks and didn't have the cajones to call his bullshit and force them to filibuster.

The "MSM" (hardly Mainstream)...Corporate Media truly applies is a product of their elistist owners...and their strings are pulled by other corporates. They generate the billions that fuel the non-stop campaigns, "think" tanks and PACs that have become the real business of the beltway. That's not going to change any time soon...the only antidote is to make things so expensive both financially and in PR that the Kochs of the world find they'd rather spend their money on a new yacht.

The "damned" Constitution was built around a balance of powers...a balance that has gotten out of whack over the past 100 years. Executive power has grown. The Legislative has become a money pit as it costs so much to win and then hold onto a seat. The focus isn't on legislating, it's on fundraising. To say true campaign finance reform is needed is an understatement, but it's also considered mutually assured destruction by most politicians.

As we've seen from the teabaggers, the power of activism can have an impact...and maybe seeing how inept the GOOP ruin the House may be the catalyst. You're not going to remove the entrenched elite but you can counter-act them from the grassroots. It's time Democrats and Progressives get those roots back. It'll also get this administration to take notice as well...

Cheers...

[TBF]

27. Focus.

I hear you, and others do as well. The voting thing is inconsequential, go ahead and take the hour to vote for your local folks and then come back here and continue talking. The issue is that workers need to rise up and demand better. We see it all over Europe with protests against the anti-austerity measures. I have a feeling Social Security will be the issue that gets folks in the streets here. Solidarity!


France:

Spain:

Italy:

Belgium:

Greece:

Ireland:

Portugal:

Bulgaria:

Latvia:

[JustFiveMoreMinutes]

37. Two edged sword I guess... should be interesting thats for sure.

[grahamhgreen]

29. You have some voice with the Dems in power but

no voice with the Repubs

[JustFiveMoreMinutes]

34. Thanks everyone for pulling and/or kicking me out of the stupor!

Was really having a bad day!

And as someone pointed out, being in Nevada and being deluged by Angle's ads and her getting any sort of support just amazes me.

I'm voting tomorrow... ALL DEMOCRATIC.

Hope. Springs Eternal.

[county worker]

38. It's up to us not up to elected officials.

Do you think the tea party candidates are where they are because they think like you do? Maybe we need to go to France and take some lessons in street demonstrating.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

42. All we need is 500 seats in the house and 200 in the senate and a few more tons of dry powder.

And, Patience...oodles of patience.