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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 09:23 AM
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Delusional: Christine O'Donnell: I Won That First Amendment Debate!
Christine O'Donnell: I Won That First Amendment Debate!

The media and most viewers of the Oct. 19 Delaware Senate debate thought Republican Christine O'Donnell's question about the First Amendment directed at Democrat Chris Coons was a pretty epic gaffe for the hardcore tea party favorite and Constitution proponent.

O'Donnell did not see it that way, however.

"It's really funny the way that the media reports things," O'Donnell told ABC News this morning. "After that debate my team and I we were literally high fiving each other thinking that we had exposed he doesn't know the First Amendment, and then when we read the reports that said the opposite we were all like 'what?'"

VIDEO & more:
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/10/christine-odonnell-i-won-that-first-amendment-debate-video.php?ref=fpa
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 09:25 AM
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1. well, she also thinks she's qualified to be a United States Senator
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 09:26 AM
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2. She's dangerously insane
I shudder to think what will happen if she somehow wins.
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uncommon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 09:26 AM
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3. Jesus H. She was laughed down by the audience, literally.
It doesn't say the words "separation of church and state" but it says the same damn thing as "separation of church and state" - she is an idiot.
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BanzaiBonnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 09:31 AM
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10. But she thought they were laughing WITH her
Did you see the look on her face? She is delusional.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 09:35 AM
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14. She makes idiots look good
WTF!!!!!
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Segami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 09:28 AM
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4. Breaking: Its confirmed. Christine O'Donnell's errr ' brain ' has disconnected from its ' stem.'
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 09:28 AM
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5. Good grief, even after the debate she didn't realize the audience was laughing at her. nt
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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 09:44 AM
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23. She still doesn't, and she still doesn't understand what the 1st Amendment says.
She really is deficient in the thought process.
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arbusto_baboso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 09:28 AM
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6. And other Teapublicans will mostly agree with her.
Facts don't matter to them. Data don't matter. They cling to their delusional worldview, regardless.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 09:29 AM
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7. If that really happened then her and her people are completely clueless
Though I think they are anyway.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 09:31 AM
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9. "her people" are Palin's debate prep people.
"completely clueless"

So, um, yeah.
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Phentex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 09:32 AM
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12. Sounds like the way Palin would have responded too...
Like YEAH I meant to say that!
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 09:48 AM
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26. That explains the similarity in style and substance
Confusion and cluelessness abounds.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 09:30 AM
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8. I didn't watch the media reports, I watched the video...
Her words, without commentary. And she made an ass of herself with her obvious lack of knowledge regarding the Constitution.
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BlueDemKev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 09:32 AM
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11. OOOOOH.......let me give you a STANDING ovation, Christie!
....for helping to keep the Republicans in the Senate MINORITY!

:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :sarcasm:
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Lint Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 09:33 AM
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13. She also thinks she's not a witch.
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BanzaiBonnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 09:35 AM
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15. She's dumb and thinks she know it all
That makes her as dangerous as Bush II.
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arbusto_baboso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 09:36 AM
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16. Typical Rethug: Ignorant as meatloaf and thinks she's Einstein.
That's their M.O.
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BlueDemKev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 11:46 AM
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38. Oh no, she's not EINSTEIN....
...she's "YOU"! :puke:
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arbusto_baboso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 11:51 AM
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40. Not by a longshot is she me.
I have an IQ above room temperature.

Actually, my IQ is above room temp for Palm Springs.

I think Christine might actually be borderline "mentally challenged".
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Bigmack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 09:36 AM
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17. I run into that shit all the time...
posting on newspaper LTTE comments.

Somebody posted about the health care supposedly being added to wages and taxed. I posted three different debunks.. snopes, politifact, and factcheck.

The woman posted back... one item. "Snopes is left-leaning and can't be trusted." That's all she had, but she refused to admit she got that shit from one of those righwingnut viral emails and was wrong.

Another guy posted that Teddy Roosevelt was a traitor and sold out to J P Morgan.

They are not delusional... that's too clinical a term.

They are what psychologists call "nuttier than squirrel shit".
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 09:38 AM
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18. "Reallah? Like, OMIGOD!"


Way to go TeaHadists.
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 09:39 AM
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19. We were all like 'what?'
She wants to be a United States Senator, people!

:rofl:
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 09:39 AM
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20. Can you imagine a House and Senate with these nuts in there?
Total chaos. The Constitution according to the teabaggers would make a mockery of every law we have. They interpret like the various church sects do, what ever they decide is what that paper really means. It's a scary thought.

They are really batshitcrazy.
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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 09:40 AM
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21. What they believe it "fact". And it was aimed at the growing population of the American Taliban.
Their policy is that there is no "separation of church and state" because that phrase is not in the constitution. Because of this linguistic trick, they win. This hyper-literal view is all they need. The fools they market to understand that this is how they progress on the road to instituting a theocracy. Truth is not important. Image is everything.

She is growing her base whether she wins the election or not. This is not stupidity, it's tactics.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 09:45 AM
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25. "Truth is not important. Image is everything." Has been, for a VERY long time.
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DeschutesRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 12:06 PM
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44. "American Taliban" - that is exactly how dh and I have been referring to this group as well. nt
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 09:44 AM
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22. "We create our own reality."
The source of the term is a quotation in an October 17, 2004, New York Times Magazine article by writer Ron Suskind, quoting an unnamed aide to George W. Bush (later attributed to Karl Rove<1>):

The aide said that guys like me were "in what we call the reality-based community," which he defined as people who "believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality." ... "That's not the way the world really works anymore," he continued. "We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality—judiciously, as you will—we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors…and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do."<2>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reality-based_community
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 10:36 AM
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34. That always reminds me of O'Brien in "1984"
"You believe that reality is something objective, external, existing in its own right. You also believe that the nature of reality is self-evident. When you delude yourself into thinking that you see something, you assume that everyone else sees the same thing as you. But I tell you, Winston, that reality is not external. Reality exists in the human mind, and nowhere else. Not in the individual mind, which can make mistakes, and in any case soon perishes: only in the mind of the Party, which is collective and immortal. Whatever the Party holds to be the truth, is truth. It is impossible to see reality except by looking through the eyes of the Party. That is the fact that you have got to relearn, Winston."

"We control matter because we control the mind. Reality is inside the skull. You will learn by degrees, Winston. There is nothing that we could not do. Invisibility, levitation--anything. I could float off this floor like a soap bubble if I wish to. I do not wish to, because the Party does not wish it. You must get rid of those nineteenth-century ideas about the laws of Nature. We make the laws of Nature."

I think Orwell meant for this book to be a cautionary tale, however, not an instruction manual.
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Lucy Goosey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 09:45 AM
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24. Wow...talk about lack of ability to read a room...
It was apparently evident to everyone but Christine that people were laughing AT her. At a LAW school. Candidate fail.

This is one of those cases in which the Russell quote in my sig line applies beautifully: "fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves" - where is her insane self-confidence coming from? She certainly hasn't earned it based on brains or substance.

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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 09:49 AM
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27. Man is she an idiot
Edited on Thu Oct-21-10 09:49 AM by Botany
Sarah Palin is staying away from her.

The 5 Freedoms* :rofl: she really thought she had out debating a lawyer from Yale
who had clerked for the Federal Bench?

He really ripped her, "let us not make this about who knows the Constitution better and let
the moderator ask the questions."



*
Press
Speech
Religion
Assembly
Petition the Government

O'Donnell is just a Sarah Palin who use periods.


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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 09:51 AM
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28. She's probably gotten the word from Karl that the voting machine
fix is in this time.
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 09:51 AM
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29. He quoted the first amendment word for word
Did she think the law school students were laughing at Coons? Sorry lady, even the law students figured out pretty quickly that you were clueless
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 09:52 AM
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30. That's the problem with the truly stupid...
... you can't convince them they are stupid.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 11:54 AM
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41. +1
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 09:57 AM
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31. 1st Amendment for Tea Baggers...The world revolves around me.
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 10:03 AM
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32. Completely out of her tiny, tiny mind...
...but nice to see the presstitutes giving her lots and lots of free time...funny how when they went to Coons for a 'rebuttal' they had "technical difficulties" and could only manage a phone interview wherein George Suckedalotofcock asked a series of "why do you hate rich people" questions..

It's getting to the point where I just don't want to switch the telly on in the morning anymore...we stopped watching the CBS morning show because Harry "our guy" Smith and his simpering female colleague didn't even bother to hide their disdain of anyone with a (D) as their party affiliation. Plus, if their interview questions contained anything softer than the gooey softballs they gently lobbed at the Rethuglicans they would melt. So we switched to ABC and initially things seemed marginally better, but as the political season began to pick up, so did the number of 'exclusive' interviews with republican political operatives, and the underlying, "President Obama is deeply unpopular" and the "Dems are going to get their asses kicked" memes started to get louder and louder..Nary a morning would go by without some angry white person being given free airtime to talk down and ridicule the President. These would be the very same people that would have called for the public hanging of any Democrat if they had dared to say anything remotely similar when bush was in office mind you, for daring to question the President "in a time of war".

One can only hope that after this religiously-insane, constitutionally-challenged dingbat gets her 'masturbation is a sin' arse handed to her on election day that she will once and for all disappear from the national airwaves...
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 10:08 AM
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33. LOL
:thumbsup:
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 10:41 AM
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35. Teabaggers and others on the right really don't think separation of church and state are in...
Edited on Thu Oct-21-10 10:41 AM by Beaverhausen
...the constitution. They are told that it's not there, the first amendment says no such thing, that Jefferson never actually wrote that phrase in a letter and in fact it came from the Nazis.

These people are being brainwashed by fox and Rush and all the other crazies out there.
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txaslftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 12:45 PM
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48. I'm all for separation of church and state...
but it's not in the first amendment.

The establishment clause says we won't have a national church, that's all it says. For a long time various states continued to have religious tests for offices, and that was all hunky dory with the various founders who came from those states.

I listened to both what she said and what he responded with, and it is clear that she comes across as a ditz. But if the question is "does the first amendment say there is a wall between church and the state", the answer is clearly "no".

Separation of church and state is something that has evolved over time, and I think it's a good thing, and I think the roots or origins of it can be found in the First Amendment.

But separation of church and state is not in the first amendment.
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 11:14 AM
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36. I guess mouse brains are now being transplanted into humans!
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 11:36 AM
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37. Yeah, this pretty much proves it. n/t
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 11:50 AM
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39. Ha ha, Christine, you sure fooled 'em!
You actually WON, while everyone else in the room thought you were a fucking idiot.

Shows how much THEY know.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 12:00 PM
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42. She also claimed she solved a Rubix cube in one second
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ellie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 12:01 PM
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43. OK. She is just messing around with us
She can't be that crazy. Can she?
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 12:08 PM
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45. OMG! I'm all like, "She's toast." nt
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toddwv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 12:10 PM
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46. The disconnect is evident during the debate you can see that she is confused...
she thinks that the audience is laughing WITH her and not AT her. You can actually see her with a little "victory" smile as the audience guffaws in incredulity of her vapid response.
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Brother Buzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 12:21 PM
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47. Mirror, mirror on the wall....
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 08:04 PM
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49. She also thinks she attended Yale and Oxford
and apparently they don't cover constitutional law at Hogwarts.
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redirish28 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 08:06 PM
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50. Pretty house sorry no one home... n/t
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 08:19 PM
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51. Thank Heavens this is Delaware. If it was any southern state she'd be up by 25%
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BlueDemKev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-10 10:28 AM
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55. You got that right!
The scary thing is there are SO many people like Ms. O'Donnell here in Dixie and trust me, and you will be seeing a lot of folks like her start getting elected to Congress in the next couple of election cycles. O'Donnell has gotten a lot of attention because she was the "first" major incident of the Tea Party Express' takeover of the GOP. If she were running in a state like Georgia, Alabama, or Louisiana, she'd be heralded as a "fresh voice", "intelligent woman", "proven leader who has strong values", "honest", etc.

Delaware voters....PLEASE DO NOT STAY HOME ON ELECTION DAY because you think Coons has already won. No chances can be taken, and your Senate race could very well determine who controls the Senate these next two years. Please vote early, if at all possible.

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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 08:21 PM
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52. But she went to Claremont!
for a whole week
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 08:30 PM
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53. so this means Nobody associated with her campaign understands the First Amendment
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 10:24 PM
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54. She won in the Idiot category.
Will this woman ever wake up to see what a laughing stock she is?
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-10 10:33 AM
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56. So you really can't fix stupid. n/t
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