Cholera in Haiti! The 'Christian' republican Tim Colburn stopped aid that could have prevented it.

[AnArmyVeteran]

A hundred Haitians have already died of cholera so far, and it's feared when the disease spreads to Port au Prince where millions are living in tents with no ability to escape it will turn into an epidemic where an untold number of human beings will die.

Since the disastrous earthquake ravaged Haiti and destroyed homes and lives of the most vulnerable people in the planet, republican senator Tom Colburn has personally stopped aid from getting to Haitians in dire need.

Soulless thugs like the fake Christian Tom Colburn doesn't give a damn about people. He's a total whore to his corporate pimps. Colburn likes to flaunt his Christianity, but no practicing Christian would ever think about doing what conservative republicans do all the time. They are all void of compassion, empathy and even common human decency.

No one can be a conservative extremist and a Christian at the same time. They are exact opposites of each other. There will be a special place in hell for evil conservative 'christians'.

I am so sick of the fraud that is constantly perpetuated by conservatives. How do they get away with their sociopathic behaviors? How can republicans be so easily duped by their soulless leaders? Is it because they are as heartless as the people they elect to office?

Never in my life could I have imagined so many people being so void of any feelings for their fellow man as republicans are. They turn their backs on sick and vulnerable Americans and believe people who are down on their luck should just die if they get sick. And their callousness even extends beyond our borders where they are turning their backs on desperately needy Haitians.

What kind of people have conservative republicans become?

[annabanana]

1. k&r . . .n/t

[madokie]

2. For starters its tom coburn

and yes he is a pseudo christian :hi:

[davidinalameda]

3. how did he personally do it

[AnArmyVeteran]

8. Coburn 'pulled it for further study' just to stop the aid. Here's the link...

http://thinkprogress.org/2010/09/29/coburn-haiti-earthquake-objection/

[opihimoimoi]

The man is infected with MEism....he got his and its fuck everyone else...he should be banned

from American Politics...

[butterfly77]

4. Become????

What's new this is who they have always been..

[GoldenOldie]

5. Coburn a "Christian?"

He is also a doctor who took an oath to do no harm!
Apparently Tom Coburn has a higher master.....himself.

He is the one who has been holding up the US disaster funds allocated to help Haiti.

[Metta]

6. So, now he gets to inherit the karma for his part in killing those people.

Dumb bastard.

edited to be more doctrinally accurate.

[emilyg]

7. Unrec. - more Christian bashing.

[AnArmyVeteran]

9. It's not Christian bashing. It's FAKE Christian bashing.

And I specifically pointed out I was condemning Christian republican conservatives. I am not attacking all Christians. I AM attacking hypocrites who claim to be Christians but do not practice their faith. Before unreccommending my OP you should have at least read all of it. And if you are a Christian what's that little thing about 'not judging, lest ye be judged'?

[emilyg]

11. Expressing my opinion is

not judging you.

[Hannah Bell]

14. he didn't say it was. he said your "opinion" is mistaken, as he's not 'bashing' christians, he's

calling out hypocrites who pretend to be christians.

[emilyg]

15. May I suggest you

read his reply again.

[Hannah Bell]

19. you responded to his OP, not his "reply". The OP which says: "thugs like the fake Christian"

[Hello_Kitty]

10. Well I just recced it.

If there's one thing I can't stand, it's people from a privileged group appropriating the language of the oppressed. "Bashing" - GMAFB.

[emilyg]

17. Your problem - not mine.

[AnArmyVeteran]

18. I will pray for you...

[emilyg]

22. Thank you. I'll

add you to my prayers.

[Hello_Kitty]

36. You were the one whining, not I.

:eyes:

[Hannah Bell]

13. They're not christians, they're hypocrites & pharisees who spout the platitudes of christianity

for their personal advancement while practicing the worship of mammon.

[Zhade]

28. Wrong. They're just as Christian as MLK.

All that is required to be a Christian is to believe in Jesus and call yourself one. That's it.

It sucks for the good Christians, but it is what it is -- the No True Scotsman fallacy applies here.

Christians don't get to pretend bad people can't be Christian just because it makes their religion look bad. Doesn't work that way.

[Hannah Bell]

30. i had the idea that christianity had something to do with the teachings of christ,

who knew?

[AnArmyVeteran]

34. What if someone went on a long killing spree then converted just before police shot me?

This is one (or yet another!) point about Christianity that is troubling. If a person like Hitler can kill tens of millions of people, but on his death bed he 'says' he's a Christian, he gets to go to heaven. But someone who worked their entire life helping others will go to hell since they didn't believe in Christianity. Sorry, but I'm not buying what those snake oil salesmen are selling.

If I professed to be a brain surgeon would you feel comfortable with me sawing on your skull? After all, as long as I 'say' I'm a brain surgeon that seems to be enough proof according to what you stated. I don't have to 'practice' my profession, just as thugs like Coburn don't have to 'practice' their beliefs. Tom Coburn 'says' he is a Christian but he is against most of what Jesus taught. And he has prevented aid destined for Haiti knowing that by doing so would lead to the deaths of some of the most desperate and vulnerable people on earth. NO REAL Christian would do that. Coburn is a fake, just like every other conservative extremist 'Christian' in the republican party. I choose to believe evil thugs like Coburn will go to hell no matter how much bible thumping they do. Evil is evil. And Coburn is an instrument of pure evil.

Not only has Coburn betrayed what Jesus taught he also violated his oath as a doctor. A physician like Coburn knew that by stopping aid to the Haitian people they would develop diseases common when people live in contaminated areas. But Coburn didn't give a damn about those human beings. He didn't care that his actions alone led to the deaths of 150 Haitians so far, and that figure could climb into the thousands, or tens of thousands. I wonder what Jesus would think about someone who deliberately caused the deaths of men, women, children and babies? And I wonder how the pro-life Coburn can condone his obvious role in the deaths of an untold number of fetuses being carried by sick and dying Haitian women.

You can believe Coburn is a Christian, but I do not. He's a fake, a CINO, and a murderer.

[emilyg]

45. See post #20 and #37.

[JI7]

16. you blame innocent muslims for 9/11 but have a problem pointing out specific individual

Christians who do horrible things ??????

that's fucked up .

[emilyg]

23. You don't know who I blame.

[JI7]

26. i have seen what you posted

which is what i'm referring to

[Crunchy Frog]

21. I read it as just the opposite. A rec to counter your unrec.

[Lyric]

27. Are you serious?

Criticizing right-wing pseudo-Christians is "Christian bashing"?

:puke:

Edit: And rec'ced, to counter your unjustified unrec. You can have the "opinion" that the ocean is an inch deep, but that doesn't make your opinion right or rational.

[donco6]

33. recc'd for the whining. n/t

[Occulus]

42. LOL

Yet it's that religion that calls me an abomination.

Whatev. Rec'd.

[emilyg]

43. Why not mention other religions

that do the same.

[malletgirl02]

12. I don't understand

How can one Senator have so much power to hold up aid for Haiti?

[AnArmyVeteran]

20. Senate rules allow for a lot of abuse. Here's the link...

Tom Coburn prevents Haitians from getting over one billion in aid.

http://thinkprogress.org/2010/09/29/coburn-haiti-earthq... /

Coburn is now responsible for the deaths of over 100 men, women, children and babies. And because of his evil actions the lives of tens of thousands of other Haitians are in jeopardy. And Tom Coburn pretends to be a Christian. To me he's just another murderer. Some killers use guns or knives. Coburn used his complete lack of compassion or empathy to 'kill' those vulnerable Hatians.

[hack89]

41. I think you missed the update that exonerates Coburn

Foreign Policy's Josh Rogin writes that Coburn is actually not responsible for holding up all Haitian reconstruction aid because the $1.15 billion is already appropriated to help Haiti, unrelated to Coburn's hold on an authorization bill -- "authorization bills, like the one that Coburn objects to, are useful for setting out Congressional direction on how money should be spend, but aren't strictly necessary to the disbursement of the funds. The appropriations bills are the ones that actually spend the money."

http://thinkprogress.org/2010/09/29/coburn-haiti-earthquake-objection

[emilyg]

44. DU doesn't want

to see this. It would spoil their outrage. Thanks.

[Contrary1]

24. At least 150 dead so far...

But, we saved a few bucks thanks to the Repugs, so it's all good.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39787756/ns/health-infectious_diseases/

[hayu_lol]

25. Surprised that no one has a program of immunizations...

against Cholera going. Haven't heard one way or the other if anyone has such a program in place.

Cholera is an expected adjunct to such a disaster.

[Zhade]

29. Oh, for fuck's sake...

No true Scotsman is an intentional logical fallacy, an ad hoc attempt to retain an unreasoned assertion. When faced with a counterexample to a universal claim, rather than denying the counterexample or rejecting the original universal claim, this fallacy modifies the subject of assertion to tautologically exclude the specific case or others like it. The truth or falsehood of the new claim does not follow from the presence or absence of this fallacy.

The term was advanced by philosopher Antony Flew in his 1975 book Thinking About Thinking: Do I sincerely want to be right?.<1>

Imagine Hamish McDonald, a Scotsman, sitting down with his Glasgow Morning Herald and seeing an article about how the "Brighton Sex Maniac Strikes Again." Hamish is shocked and declares that "No Scotsman would do such a thing." The next day he sits down to read his Glasgow Morning Herald again and this time finds an article about an Aberdeen man whose brutal actions make the Brighton sex maniac seem almost gentlemanly. This fact shows that Hamish was wrong in his opinion but is he going to admit this? Not likely. This time he says, "No true Scotsman would do such a thing."
—Antony Flew, Thinking About Thinking (1975)
A simpler rendition would be:

Teacher: All Scotsmen enjoy haggis.
Student: My uncle is a Scotsman, and he doesn't like haggis!
Teacher: Well, all true Scotsmen like haggis.
When the statement "all A are B" is qualified like this to exclude those A which are not B, this is a form of begging the question; the conclusion is assumed by the definition of "true A".

An example of a political application of the fallacy would be in asserting that "no democracy starts a war", then distinguishing between mature or "true" democracies, which never start wars, and "emerging democracies", which may start them.

[AnArmyVeteran]

31. Excuse me, but what's your point?

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

32. The sad thing is that most people don't understand how Congress works.

They'll blame Obama. Why didn't he do much for Haiti!! It's so infuriating!! :puke::puke:

[malaise]

35. Why are you surprised

Back in the day they lynched black people Mondays to Saturdays and went to church on Sundays.

[Kaleva]

37. The update at the bottom says the Senator isn't holding up the funds

"Coburn is actually not responsible for holding up all Haitian reconstruction aid.."

http://thinkprogress.org/2010/09/29/coburn-haiti-earthquake-objection

In a related article:

""Senator Coburn's hold is not related to the $1.15 billion pledge made by the administration in March," State Department spokesman P.J. Crowley told The Cable. He explained that the State Department and Congress are still working on how exactly to spend the money, totally apart from Coburn's hold on the separate authorization bill."

http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2010/10/18/jon_stewart_was_wrong_coburn_is_not_holding_up_the_haiti_relief_money

[emilyg]

39. Don't confuse DU

with facts. Thanks.

[Kaleva]

46. Gave the OP an unrec

[WildEyedLiberal]

38. I'll rec this and I'm Catholic

It is NOT Christian bashing to point out that any "Christian" who would deny aid to the poor is no Christian at all. And I don't want to hear the "No true Scotsman" bullshit. Calling yourself "Christian" does not make you a Christian. You have to actually commit yourself to following Christ's teachings, paramount of which was caring for the poor. If you don't, you're not Christian. Period. I don't care where you spend your time on Sunday morning or what you claim to be.

[emilyg]

40. Read post #37 at the bottom.