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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 12:36 AM
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Sunday's DOONESBURY: Why Don't People Know US Debt Exploded W/ GOP Admins? According To Boehner...


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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 12:38 AM
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1. Excellent
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 03:31 AM
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2. 4:30 a.m. kick. nt
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 07:50 AM
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9. 8;45 am kr
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 02:02 PM
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16. 3 p.m.!
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 04:01 AM
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3. I could name a program they are willing to cut - veteran's benefits
At least they already voted to do so once.

and health care for children

and education - they voted to cut that

and highway repair - they voted against money for that too.
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BlueCollar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 04:54 AM
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4. You nailed it...n/t
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 06:39 AM
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7. They want to disband the FDA and the EPA, as well.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 09:56 AM
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10. I like to stick with veterans, children and schools though
and roads. Because huge majorities of the public support those things. Particularly in Kansas. If I tell a Kansas audience that the Republican Congresspeople cut veteran's benefits, lots of them will get angry at the Republicans for that. Same thing with health care for kids. Schools and roads are hugely popular too, but the EPA is not. Not in Kansas. If I tell the same crowd that the Republicans want to disband the EPA maybe a majority of the crowd is gonna say "good for the Republicans".
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 12:42 PM
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13. the question is, what will they publicly announce that they are willing to cut
:)
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 02:02 PM
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15. Also, will they attempt to blame the Democratic party
for their actions. This is the way they usually function.
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jannyk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 05:44 AM
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5. brilliant!! k&r
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 06:29 AM
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6. recommend
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 07:49 AM
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8. K&R.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 09:58 AM
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11. He's the best. nt
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 12:08 PM
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12. K & R
:thumbsup:
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kgnu_fan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 12:55 PM
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14. Cut all war budget and the world will become a little better place for everyone
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maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 06:29 PM
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21. 59% of the federal budget...
if one includes the nuclear weapons program...
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mwooldri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 08:36 PM
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25. Mirror the UK's defense cuts - percentage for percentage.
IIRC 25% over four years.

It can be done. My guess is because of the infrastructure expenditure that is happening that the cuts can be made without reducing the number of people employed by the Dept of Defense, though I'd prefer that groups like USAID and Peace Corps get a big government budget and re-deploy a number of military personnel to these organizations.

I don't know how many civilians are supported by military spending doing what they believe to be worthwhile and useful work. That's the problem I hate with any reduction in any governmental programs - governments support jobs through tax dollars and if the government employees are losing their jobs just as bad as the private sector, and if there is no private sector to fill the void, unemployment goes up.

I'd say a whole government restructuring and spending review is necessary. At all levels: federal, state and local government. If there is a fiscal crisis, someone in leadership needs to come out with balls and state "We are in the fiscal shitter and we got to do something about it now. Raise taxes, cut costs, use what money we have more efficiently".

Sorry if it makes me speak like a conservative, but with finances I'd be happy to be given that label. However at the same time the most vulnerable in society need to be protected. Instead of foreclosure, how about mortgages to rent programs? Rent assistance for those who have been devastated (boost Section 8 funding) ?? I say health care reform is a "good start" but doesn't go far enough. Ensure our veterans get the proper treatment and are not short changed. Ramp up programs to reduce homelessness drastically. Expand "Food Stamps" to a "Living Allowance" - Food Stamps plus money to pay for essential household bills, and for transportation in the hope of getting to work and back. Money to get more students into schools without worry of where the money is going to come from, even if it means giving private universities money to administer scholarships to get decent people a private university education to those who need it.

Rant over.
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mwooldri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 08:36 PM
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26. Mirror the UK's defense cuts - percentage for percentage.
IIRC 25% over four years.

It can be done. My guess is because of the infrastructure expenditure that is happening that the cuts can be made without reducing the number of people employed by the Dept of Defense, though I'd prefer that groups like USAID and Peace Corps get a big government budget and re-deploy a number of military personnel to these organizations.

I don't know how many civilians are supported by military spending doing what they believe to be worthwhile and useful work. That's the problem I hate with any reduction in any governmental programs - governments support jobs through tax dollars and if the government employees are losing their jobs just as bad as the private sector, and if there is no private sector to fill the void, unemployment goes up.

I'd say a whole government restructuring and spending review is necessary. At all levels: federal, state and local government. If there is a fiscal crisis, someone in leadership needs to come out with balls and state "We are in the fiscal shitter and we got to do something about it now. Raise taxes, cut costs, use what money we have more efficiently".

Sorry if it makes me speak like a conservative, but with finances I'd be happy to be given that label. However at the same time the most vulnerable in society need to be protected. Instead of foreclosure, how about mortgages to rent programs? Rent assistance for those who have been devastated (boost Section 8 funding) ?? I say health care reform is a "good start" but doesn't go far enough. Ensure our veterans get the proper treatment and are not short changed. Ramp up programs to reduce homelessness drastically. Expand "Food Stamps" to a "Living Allowance" - Food Stamps plus money to pay for essential household bills, and for transportation in the hope of getting to work and back. Money to get more students into schools without worry of where the money is going to come from, even if it means giving private universities money to administer scholarships to get decent people a private university education to those who need it.

Rant over.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 04:08 PM
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17. KnR KnR KnR KnR
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 05:09 PM
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18. This is what happens when
one party is allowed to control the media. It no longer matters what Republicans say or do because the media can counter any question.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 05:11 PM
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19. And has any reporter or so called journalist
ever pressed any of them on that?

Would even the heroic Keith Olberman or the Majestic Rachel do it?
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AlbertCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 08:21 PM
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24. Would even the heroic Keith Olberman or the Majestic Rachel do it?
Probably.

Olberman several times mentioned the Pledge did not specify what they would cut.... beyond not including "essential" programs.
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 11:05 PM
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29. If you ever actually watched Rachel's show, you would know
that she brings this up CONSTANTLY.
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jonthebru Donating Member (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 01:00 AM
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31. I believe I have heard that question
on the Sunday morning show with the guy with dark hair and a pointy nose.
He kept asking the question politely but whomever the Grandiose Obstructionist Party member he was "interviewing", the question was never answered.
Couldn't tell you when that was it was quite a while ago.
Of course, I could have imagined the whole thing.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 11:38 AM
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32. Yep, right wingers know how to dodge a question
It's an art form with them.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 05:31 PM
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20. K&R.
Thanks, Hissyspit. I'm passing this one along via email.
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Capitalocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 06:51 PM
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22. I hope disembodied cartoon Boehner voice is wrong
but I fear he might be right
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 07:50 PM
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23. It's quite astonishing .... and at the least W also doubled the MIC budget-- !!
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The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 09:28 PM
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27. Stop paying mercenaries to fight our battles.
End all foreign military adventures.
Stop buying obsolete military hardware.
Fully fund single payer health care.
Reformulate all underwater mortgages to stem the foreclosure tide.
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Mosaic Donating Member (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 11:01 PM
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28. GOP = Gangsters Of Plutocracy
GOP = Gangsters Of Plutocracy

Know the real meaning of GOP when you read the acronym in your daily corporate media.
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 11:37 PM
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30. No, Agent Orange, this isn't Greece. But it will be before long.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 11:51 AM
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33. "How long do you want to keep this up, Son? I got all eternity."
Keep asking and asking and asking these idiots until they own up to the programs they want to cut.
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