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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 09:02 AM
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Why Bush hasn't been impeached

Why Bush hasn't been impeached

Congress, the media and most of the American people have yet to turn decisively against Bush because to do so would be to turn against some part of themselves.

By Gary Kamiya

May. 22, 2007 | The Bush presidency is a lot of things. It's a secretive cabal, a cavalcade of incompetence, a blood-stained Church Militant, a bad rerun of "The Godfather" in which scary men in suits pay ominous visits to hospital rooms. But seen from the point of view of the American people, what it increasingly resembles is a bad marriage. America finds itself married to a guy who has turned out to be a complete dud. Divorce -- which in our nonparliamentary system means impeachment -- is the logical solution. But even though Bush cheated on us, lied, besmirched our family's name and spent all our money, we the people, not to mention our elected representatives and the media, seem content to stick it out to the bitter end.

There is a strange disconnect in the way Americans think about George W. Bush. He is extraordinarily unpopular. His approval ratings, which have been abysmal for about 18 months, have now sunk to their lowest ever, making him the most unpopular president in a generation. His 28 percent approval rating in a May 5 Newsweek poll ties that of Jimmy Carter in 1979 after the failed Iran rescue mission. Bush's unpopularity has emboldened congressional Democrats, who now have no qualms about attacking him directly and flatly asserting that his Iraq war is lost.

Some of them have also been willing to invoke the I-word -- joining a large number of Americans. Several polls taken in the last two years have shown that large numbers of Americans support impeachment. An Angus Reid poll taken in May 2007 found that a remarkable 39 percent of Americans favored the impeachment of Bush and Cheney. An earlier poll, framed in a more hypothetical way, found that 50 percent of Americans supported impeaching Bush if he lied about the war -- which most of that 50 percent presumably now believe he did. Vermont has gone on record in calling for his impeachment, and a number of cities, including Detroit and San Francisco, have passed impeachment resolutions. Reps. John Murtha and John Conyers and a few other politicians have floated the idea. And there is a significant grassroots movement to impeach Bush, spearheaded by organizations like After Downing Street. Even some Republicans, outraged by Bush's failure to uphold right-wing positions (his immigration policy, in particular), have begun muttering about impeachment.

Bush's unpopularity is mostly a result of Iraq, which most Americans now believe was a colossal mistake and a war we cannot win. But his problems go far beyond Iraq. His administration has been dogged by one massive scandal after the other, from the Katrina debacle, to Bush's approval of illegal wiretapping and torture, to his unparalleled use of "signing statements" to disobey laws he disagrees with, to the outrageous Gonzales and U.S. attorneys affair.

In response to these outrages, a growing literature of pro-impeachment books, from "The Case for Impeachment" by Dave Lindorff and Barbara Olshansky to "U.S. v. Bush" by Elizabeth Holtzman to "The Impeachment of George W. Bush" by Elizabeth de la Vega, argue not only that Bush's misdeeds are clearly impeachable, but also that a failure to impeach a rogue president bent on amassing unprecedented power will threaten our most cherished traditions. As Lindorff and Olshansky conclude, "If we fail to stand up for the Constitution now, it may be only a piece of paper by the end of President Bush's second term. Then it will be time to be afraid."

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Why? Why was Clinton, who was never as unpopular as Bush, impeached for lying about sex, while Bush faces no sanction for the far more serious offense of lying about war?

The main reason is obvious: The Democrats think it's bad politics. Bush is dying politically and taking the GOP down with him, and impeachment is risky. It could, so the cautious Beltway wisdom has it, provoke a backlash, especially while the war is still going on. Why should the Democrats gamble on hitting the political jackpot when they're likely to walk away from the table big winners anyway?

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The truth is that Bush's high crimes and misdemeanors, far from being too small, are too great. What has saved Bush is the fact that his lies were, literally, a matter of life and death. They were about war. And they were sanctified by 9/11. Bush tapped into a deep American strain of fearful, reflexive bellicosity, which Congress and the media went along with for a long time and which has remained largely unexamined to this day. Congress, the media and most of the American people have yet to turn decisively against Bush because to do so would be to turn against some part of themselves. This doesn't mean we support Bush, simply that at some dim, half-conscious level we're too confused -- not least by our own complicity -- to work up the cold, final anger we'd need to go through impeachment. We haven't done the necessary work to separate ourselves from our abusive spouse. We need therapy -- not to save this disastrous marriage, but to end it.

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jojo54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 09:10 AM
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1. Big Dog only cheated, then lied about it.
What this administration has done is a travesty of justice. When the GOP goes down, it had better stay down for quite some time because we will not easily forgive and forget.
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Auggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 09:15 AM
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2. "The Democrats think it's bad politics..." Yep.
Though I DON'T think it's bad politics, I can understand their reasoning.
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corkhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 10:52 AM
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7. Look at all the damage it did to the Republicks when they impeached a POPULAR President
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 09:19 AM
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3. "We need therapy -- not to save this disastrous marriage, but to end it. "
A bit more from the article:

The truth is that Bush's high crimes and misdemeanors, far from being too small, are too great. What has saved Bush is the fact that his lies were, literally, a matter of life and death. They were about war...This doesn't mean we support Bush, simply that at some dim, half-conscious level we're too confused -- not least by our own complicity -- to work up the cold, final anger we'd need to go through impeachment. We haven't done the necessary work to separate ourselves from our abusive spouse. We need therapy -- not to save this disastrous marriage, but to end it.

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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 09:22 AM
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4. End it NOW! Impeach!
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 10:41 AM
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5. Kick for twisted logic:
The country can live with the Bush's crimes; it's accountability and justice that will bring us down! The Bush administration has gotten away with a few crimes of the century.
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corkhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 10:46 AM
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6. ...because only a mere 88% support impeachment
Edited on Tue May-22-07 10:51 AM by corkhead
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=935464&mesg_id=935464

Once again political posturing takes precedence over rule of law. What about the additional damage that cabal does while they remain in power?

Impeachment is in the Constitution for a reason, and it isn't just for punishing oval office hummers.
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 11:00 AM
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8. Also:
Clinton had full control of his own actions when he dallied around with an intern. Then when confronted, he lied about it. There is no ambiguity or room for putting the blame on someone else.

While Iraq is an awful mistake and most of us here believe that Bush did flat out lie about it - and that such lie is "obvious" - it actually isn't obvious, or at least it isn't "proven" to many people. People think that the problems in Iraq can possibly be attributed to others, and maybe it is unfair to blame Bush for all of it. And they apply similar reasoning to all his other failures.

I heard the second point from an average, decent person who doesn't read all the stuff we read here. I believe that hers is probably a common perspective among average non-political-junkie folks. (I think it's ridiculous, but my perspective and information is way different than hers, and most people's.) Compare that to Clinton's situation that is very clear-cut wrongdoing BY HIM. No one else to deflect the blame. So then it only became a "moral" question of whether it was an offense worthy of impeachment.

Just my thoughts.



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Burried News Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 11:06 AM
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9. Excellent article.
I happen to think there are additional reasons why impeachment has not happened, but this is a beautifully written and thoughtful article. It explains a lot but not everything. For example why has the Washington Post consistently covered for George Bush. Why has it backed his war no matter what?
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 11:47 AM
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10. If the Dems don't impeach, they're gonna REALLY find out what "bad politics" is
Any Dems who come out against impeachment should never get the same support again that they had in the past. Bunch of friggin worry warts.

All things considered even, the Democratic politicians who are in favor of impeaching Bush are the ones who will get my vote.

Long live Dennis Kucinich!!
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LeftHander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 11:48 AM
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11. Dick Cheney....
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StarryNite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 11:50 AM
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12. Apparently when * took over
impeachment went out the window along with our constitution.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 02:00 PM
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13. Kick! n/t
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 06:05 PM
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14. Impeaching Bush is "bad politics."
Edited on Tue May-22-07 06:05 PM by ProSense
Failing to hold Bush accountable is "good politics"?
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