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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 07:12 AM
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Don't allow the RePUKES to say we are anti-business. That is HOGWASH !
Edited on Sun Oct-24-10 07:19 AM by RBInMaine
Jobs and the economy are the main issues in this campaign, and the RePUKES. as always, are trying to say progressives are pro-tax and anti-business. It is their number one meme. As I canvass and converse, when I get hit with this attack I invoke Henry Ford, the quintessential American business icon: "I want the people who make the cars to have a decent wage so they can afford the very cars they make. THAT is GOOD for my business." I tell people that we Dems and progressives are by no means anti-business. I tell them that being pro-worker and even pro-union is by no means being anti-business. Workers and especially union workers want their companies and organizations to succeed, and they are very dedicated to that. There are countless examples of businesses where the unions and management work well together in contract negotiation. I say that when workers can make a decent wage and have a fair benefits package, you get a healthier and happier worker that is more productive. When employees are treated like valued assets, business thrives. I also talk about how Democrats are especially the champions of small business and how it is OUR party that has passed eight bills to help small businesses, no thanks to the RePUBS who have voted against them. It is OUR party that saved the US auto industry and the thousands of jobs in it and connected to it. It is OUR party that has made the largest investment ever in the green energy jobs of the future. It is OUR party that has cut taxes for 95 percent of working families and has created many thousands of infrastructure jobs across the nation. It is OUR party that is trying like hell to get healthcare costs down which benefits small businesses greatly. It is OUR party that is working overtime to help educate and train the workforce that business needs to succeed. It is OUR party that is working to restore our manufacturing base and keep good American jobs here in America. We are PRO-BUSINESS in the very best sense of the idea. So take back this issue.
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geckosfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 07:17 AM
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1. just about everything they say is hogwash - it is lie after lie after lie -
in some ways it is quite an impressive phenomena to observe - they maintain a complete and absolute state of denial and duplicity and still manage to stay out of prison most of the time
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 07:22 AM
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2. I agree. Both parties are pro Wall St., and anti Main St.
as their actions have made perfectly clear.
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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 07:34 AM
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3. BULLSHIT. There is a large difference between progressive capitalism and right wing capitalism.
Edited on Sun Oct-24-10 07:36 AM by RBInMaine
Being progressive doesn't mean you are "anti-business." Please try reading the entire OP. There's a thought.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 08:04 AM
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7. Hmmm... let's talk about the so-called "Consumer Protection Act"
which was really a Big Bank Giveaway. Let's talk about the bank bailout. Let's talk about the so-called health 'reform' legislation that was really the Insurance Industry Profit Protection Act.

Not to mention their continued participation in so-called 'wars' of abstraction on (some) drugs and 'terror'.

I will grant you that there are minute differences, but nothing drastic.
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 08:27 AM
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11. Absolutely correct. nt
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 08:39 AM
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13. I didn't know that "parties" took "actions." Or is that your idea of a clever attempt to smear...
...all members of the Dem party with the actions of some?

NGU.

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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 11:34 AM
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14. I'm talking about legislation passed under a Democratic majority
And while that does not constitute a blanket indictment of all Dems, it does leave the party at large accountable for these things, which INCLUDES the passage of the unPATRIOTic Act.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 12:22 PM
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15. That does not constitute a blanket indictment of all Dems?
Edited on Sun Oct-24-10 12:35 PM by ClassWarrior
No, actually it constitutes a blanket indictment of all Dems and all Rape-Publicans.

If you wanna get technical.

:rofl:

NGU.

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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 03:57 PM
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17. you are correct... it is an indictment of the system
of which both the dems and repukes are a part.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 01:40 AM
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18. So is it a blanket indictment or isn't it?
:eyes:

What. Ever.

NGU.

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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 05:53 AM
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19. I'm not sure why this is so hard for you to get your brain around
Yes, it is an indictment of the system, but it is not an individual blanket indictment of every Dem, although it would be of the leadership in general.

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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 04:26 PM
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20. I'm not sure why it's so hard for you to be clear in the first place.
Unless, of course, you're backtracking.

:shrug:

NGU.

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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 12:24 PM
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16. +1
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 07:45 AM
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4. I always say I'm anti-corrupt-business. Then I watch them stammer.
NGU.

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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 07:58 AM
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5. "Sooo... does being pro-business mean that I have to support every business, even..."
"...the ones that engage in criminal activity? How about the ones that are out to earn a profit by any means necessary, even if that means harming people?"

:D

NGU.

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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 08:02 AM
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6. Some democrats are anti - business, I am pro-responsible and competent employers and employees
To compete globally for good jobs both employees and employers need to be fully engaged
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 08:05 AM
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8. Name one.
NGU.

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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 08:27 AM
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10. I hear crickets.
NGU.

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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 08:10 AM
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9. The Administration's policies are decidedly pro-business.
There, feel better?
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Chan790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-10 08:39 AM
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12. But I'm not pro-business.
You might forget but this is a big tent that includes communitarians, collectivists, proto-socialists, greens and sundry other flavors of anti-capitalism that cannot be considered to be pro-business.
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Donald Ian Rankin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 05:18 PM
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21. The Democrats aren't; most DUers are. Try using the word "corporation" on DU and see the response...
The Democrats as a whole err significantly on the side of valuing business interests too highly as against things like tax revenue and employee rights.

Most DUers love the word "business" but start to foam at the mouth at the word "corporation", and appear not to realise how integral the latter is to the former.
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