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Sun Oct-24-10 05:45 PM
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Thomas' personal friends described him as "lover of hard core porn" |
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Edited on Sun Oct-24-10 05:55 PM by denem
(sigh - yes another porn debate I guess) -
That does not make the man a predator, nor a misogynist.
There is more than enough evidence of Clarence Thomas's abuse of female colleagues, period. The best that could be said about introducing evidence of his 'love for porn' is that it would have undermined his support amongst conservatives.
For all I know his personal friends were 'lovers of hard care porn' as well. It would be a different matter if he was pushing porn.
Porn need not be part of a 'pattern of behavior' and doesn't prove it. Some of the worst abusers keep a very straight laced profile with family and friends. The more 'impeccable' their reputation, the greater their liberty to abuse.
Having said all that, porn is 1992 was less confronting that it is in the internet age. I've always rejected the 'think of the children', or sexuality is 'bent by porn' arguments, but today, when sites name themselves 'abuse', I'm not so sure. As always there's education. and yes,I know 'different strokes for different folks' but enticements like 'see her vomit' go some way to promote abuse, IMO.
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Sun Oct-24-10 06:06 PM
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1. now I understand the motorhome vacations |
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no hotel records of porn...just fire up the satellite dish and park at Walmart.
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Sun Oct-24-10 06:11 PM
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2. The point of the porn references is that Hill testified that he repeatedly talked |
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about the porn he enjoyed while he was at work, with her. And that that made the workplace uncomfortable for her. (And he was heading the agency that was supposed to protect women from work conditions like that.)
While he testified that she was lying and he had never touched the vile stuff.
His friends could have shown HIM to be the liar.
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Sun Oct-24-10 06:15 PM
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3. Thanks for your post (n/t) |
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Sun Oct-24-10 06:29 PM
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4. NO. Thomas testified that he had never discussed pornography with Hill. |
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That was the charge, sexual harassment. The Senate did not go so far as to ask whether he had viewed pornography, and rightly so IMO
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Sun Oct-24-10 07:53 PM
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9. No he want far further |
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he directly stated that he didn't read porn.
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Sun Oct-24-10 07:57 PM
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10. link? He could say he didn't "read" porn. You don't read videos. |
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Edited on Sun Oct-24-10 08:02 PM by denem
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Sun Oct-24-10 09:00 PM
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15. actually reading came up because of the pubic hair |
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that was from written porn, not video porn.
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Sun Oct-24-10 09:54 PM
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22. very bizarre thomas defense |
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Sun Oct-24-10 08:04 PM
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12. So it's just a coincidence? |
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She said he discussed porn with her in the workplace, telling her his likes and dislikes.
He said she was lying.
His friends say he discussed porn with them.
There are plenty of people who watch porn, but few of them talk about it. His friends say he was one of them.
If you think it's a serious possibility that he discussed porn frequently with his friends, did not discuss it with her, and yet she made the wild accusation as a stab in the dark and it turned out to be true, then you have a problem with your thinking.
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Sun Oct-24-10 08:48 PM
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13. Wrong. He ALSO testified that he never viewed pornography, and that |
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Edited on Sun Oct-24-10 08:50 PM by pnwmom
he wasn't capable of making the reference to "Long Dong Silver" because he had never looked at porno.
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Sun Oct-24-10 08:50 PM
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14. Why would it be "right" in your opinion for the Senate not to ask him |
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whether he viewed pornography, since he testified that he knew nothing about specific references she testified that he had made?
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Sun Oct-24-10 09:22 PM
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18. Evidently long list of his porn video at rental store ... Congress wouldn't subpeona.... |
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Sun Oct-24-10 06:33 PM
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5. Been a long time since we heard Long Dong Silver's name. |
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You kids didn't know what you were missing!:rofl:
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Sun Oct-24-10 06:41 PM
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Sun Oct-24-10 09:22 PM
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He actually DID do that?
I only heard about that.
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Sun Oct-24-10 07:39 PM
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7. Clarence Thomas is a vile human being. |
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His inadequate legal background and known mental deficiencies should have scuttled his appointment. He was a known serial sexual harasser throughout his career at the EEOC and before that while working on the hill. Every female attorney and academic in the country knew it and were furious when he was appointed head of the EEOC. I knew it and I lived far from D.C. I knew it because I did a research project on sexual harassment in 1983-84 and everyone told me that the head of the EEOC was the country's biggest offender of the policy.
So why are you talking about porn?
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Sun Oct-24-10 07:44 PM
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8. The Supremes should include at least one hard core porn defender |
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but to do that he's got to be honest about it.
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Sun Oct-24-10 08:01 PM
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11. Yes. DU: 'Clarence Thomas stands up for porn' |
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Sun Oct-24-10 09:24 PM
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20. "Suck from my ass with a straw" should be the motto of Supremes, perhaps...??? |
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Edited on Sun Oct-24-10 09:25 PM by defendandprotect
Because that was but ONE of Clarence Thomas favorite expressions according to those
who knew him --
Reaction from his friends . . . sounds just like something Clarence Thomas would say!
Also, the hard core porn he was evidently watching at Yale involved getting into a little
booth, watching a porn video, and ejaculating onto the floor. They describe it as someone
usually having been in that booth before and after you!!
I'm sure that's what we need in a SC candidate!!
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Sun Oct-24-10 09:18 PM
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16. Clarence Thomas is a crude man and a sexual pervert .... |
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does everyone who watches porn relate what they see to disinterested co-workers?
Especially those of the opposite sex? Would you find that appropriate?
What Thomas' friends from college said of his days at Yale was that he was known
to be a lover of hard core porn -- the stand in the booth kind -- the kind where you
watch a video and masturbate.
"Suck from my ass with a straw" was one of his favorite expressions -- and his friends
could immediately identify that as ... "something that Clarence Thomas would say" -- !!
Now -- obviously you're anxious to defend hard core porn -- but is this really a man you
want on the Supreme Court?
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Sun Oct-24-10 09:50 PM
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Its kind of bizarre how the defenders of some freedoms are not the kind of people you really want on your team.
In his case he is pretending he's not a nasty guy and pretending to be qualified for the Supreme Court, and lots of other people are pretending too.
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Sun Oct-24-10 09:21 PM
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17. I've been described similarly. |
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