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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 10:59 AM
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Lieberman, Sticking With Democrats for Now, Warns Them on Iraq
By Laura Litvan

May 22 (Bloomberg) -- Senator Joe Lieberman, a Connecticut independent, says his disagreement with the Democrats over the Iraq war won't prevent him from working with his former party. For now.

``I hope the moment doesn't come that I feel so separated from the caucus'' that he decides to shift allegiance to the Republicans, he said in an interview. Asked what Democratic actions might cause such a break, he invoked Supreme Court Justice Potter Stewart's famous 1964 definition of pornography: ``I'll know it when I see it.''

The 65-year-old lawmaker is the margin of difference in the Democrats' 51-49 control of the Senate. A switch to the Republicans, which he won't rule out, would create a 50-50 tie that would allow Vice President Dick Cheney to cast a deciding vote for Republican control.

Lieberman has ``gone from being dispensable to essential for the Democrats,'' said Ross Baker, a political scientist at Rutgers University in New Brunswick, New Jersey.

more from the petulant asshole here: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aJGabSW6Ddzo&refer=home

:grr:
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 11:01 AM
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1. Hogwash -- he's NOT a Dem, and probably never was
When will the Dems publicly acknowledge that he is working both sides of the fence?

Jeez I hate this a-hole! :grr:
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 11:04 AM
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3. What gets my underwear in a wad is
that he's now positioned himself to broker deals on everything for the Bushies. He's at the center of the political universe, and you can bet this narcisstic jerk loves every moment of it.
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 02:14 PM
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18. Bingo!
He needs to be bitch-slapped back to reality. Or recalled by the voters.
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Firepit 462 Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 03:12 PM
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24. Maybe we can whip up a batch of.....

non-binding resolutions to threaten to supress or not support Joe in as much as the caused effect may or may not cease the aforementioned resolution that by the majority vote as directed by the Democratic leaders of the House and Senate can by authorized vote overide the proposed agreement as suggested by the noodle spined elected enablers of the current regime.

There, that aught to do it.

Lets go to our "summer homes" it's Memorial day week-end, the war,rove,gas prices,healthcare,Plame who? they will all be here to blather about in next session!

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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 05:53 PM
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33. enjoy that tombstone ;-)
smartass.
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ISUGRADIA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 08:31 PM
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34. He's in until 2013. There is no recall of members of
Congress. Only expulsion or defeat at the next election.
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 04:38 PM
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31. He's a typical DLC asshole.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 11:03 AM
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2. this is another reason that the HOUSE has to block funding...
...for the war against Iraq. Appropriations must originate in the House. Lieberman can't throw his weight against a bill that doesn't exist.

Nancy Pilosi-- STOP FUNDING CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY NOW!
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 01:50 PM
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9. You're right. This is now Pelosi's War.
Edited on Tue May-22-07 02:06 PM by BuyingThyme
Good goin', Nancy! You're officially the worst Speaker ever.
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 01:56 PM
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13. I'll call BS on that statement
if nobody else will around here.

What an utter load of horse pucky. You're telling me you'd honestly rather have Denny Fucking Hastert as Speaker right now?!?

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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 02:01 PM
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14. Well, he certainly better represented the views of the people.
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 02:56 PM
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21. Well he sure as hell didn't represent mine
:grr:
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 03:01 PM
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23. Mine either.
But we used to be in the informed minority.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 04:09 PM
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25. Get out.
That is the stupidest post outside FreeRepublic ever.

Get real or go away.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 12:17 PM
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39. It's the truth.
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KAZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 08:39 PM
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35. What the hell kind of post is this?
While I might understand your disappointment, I don't understand the Freep comment. Children. Sheesh.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 12:16 PM
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38. What's not to understand? Pelosi is not interested
in following the will of the people. She has chosen to support the genocide. This is her war now. She will never clean her hands of the blood.
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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 11:07 AM
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4. If it wouldn't switch chairmanships
I'd push that dried up old prick to the other side of the aisle myself and spit on him the whole way over.
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 11:08 AM
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5. Take a hike you sniveling dipshit Loserman
As long as the Dems are folding like a cheap umrella on the Iraq funding bill anyway, they have no need to keep this piece a shit in the fold. Time to get rid of him now and cut their losses before he fucks something up real bad in next years elections.
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loyalkydem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 11:18 AM
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6. he should
shut the fuck up. God I'm so sick of that panzy. I'm still shocked the people of CT actually re-elected this man. Joe's nothing but a big crybaby. Hell he should just go ahead and switch parties. He's a republican at heart anyway.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 11:35 AM
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7. The ONLY reason I disagree is that the committee chairs would all be Repubs.
And Lieberman knows it. That's why the Dems let him run over them.
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warren pease Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 01:44 PM
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8. Actually, I read somewhere that the Dems...
... in an unprecedented (for them) moment of political cunning, passed a new procedural rule in January 2007 under which they retain committee and sub-committee chairs in both the House and Senate for the duration of the 110th Congress, even if the composition of either house changes to create a GOP majority.

I'm sure they had Holy Joe in mind when they made this move. So, fuck him and his toothless threats to switch parties. On the other hand, if what I read about this rule is in fact true, it's even more inexplicable to watch the Dems do their suck-up drill with him.

Give him a seat in the back row of the gallery, kick his smarmy ass off all committees of any more importance than whichever one monitors earth-orbit-crossing asteroids, make him wear a jump suit with the logos of all his campaign "contributors" prominently displayed, and give him a gold painted cardboard crown to wear with the words "The Man Who Would Be King" in big red letters.

And if that's not debasing enough, just hire a couple of unemployed thugs to kick his miserable, self-serving ass into the Potomac a couple times a week. Thugs need work, too, and this would help stimulate the thug economy while they earn the justifiable professional pride and satisfaction that comes from performing a truly valuable public service.

Oh... and Joe? Fuck you twice, and a few more times on Wednesday for good measure, you third-rate excuse for a power broker and shriveled little piece of sanctimonious merde.


wp
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 01:52 PM
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11. The problem is that the majority makes the rules
If the Republicans were to regain their the majority, they will just change the rules back to how it used to be.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 01:53 PM
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12. Seriously? I hadn't heard that. I'd like to know more, if you can find it.
That sounds like a wise move, given what we know about Joe.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 02:02 PM
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15. I like your post, warren pease!
Very encouraging..and with the 2008 election coming up so soon, one of the strongest incentives to get more Democratic Senators in is to totally ignore joeblow and his whining about how killing is good Democrats have no respect.

Fuck you, joe lieman, and the wobbly dick cheney you rode in on.
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warren pease Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 11:26 AM
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36. Well, after Googling for a couple of hours...
... this is the best reference I could find to the alleged new rule adopted by Dems in Jan. 2006 to keep Lieberman in his traditional role as self-righteous pissant rather than an amateur power broker:


http://hnn.us/articles/34708.html


After babbling on for hundreds of words, the author finally talks about the 2006 Dem proscription against changing Senate committee chairs because of illness, defection, etc. He writes: "The November 2006 elections produced a Senate with a thin Democratic majority, 51 to 49. After Tim Johnson was hospitalized in December, there was much speculation in the media that the Republicans would insist that the new Senate’s organizing resolution contain language like the one adopted in 2001, and that they would filibuster a resolution that lacked it. But the resolution adopted on January 12 contained no such provision, and the Republicans quietly acquiesced. Why?"

And so on. But that's the best Google coughs up. Maybe someone else could Google the issue again using better search criteria. Me, I'm a little sick of the subject by now, and if the Dems had actually pulled this one off, I'd have to grant them half an ounce of respect, which is getting pretty tough these days as they do their level best to revive the tired old Bush suck-up routine.

And now they're getting ready to build their 2008 presidential campaign around that battle tested and highly effective slogan: "Vote Democratic -- Because We Don't Suck Quite as Bad as the GOP."

What a pack of energy sucks and faux alternatives.


wp
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 04:12 PM
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26. Buddy, if that works
I'm on board. :hi:
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 01:52 PM
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10. At this point he should just be encouraged to go since
he will vote with the GOP on major issues like Iraq and the Supreme Court anyway. They own him since they financed his campaign last year. I'm tired of his threats and just wish he would go away and then next year we can pick up a couple of real Democrats and he can be on the outside looking in.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 02:03 PM
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16. What a whore Lieberman is. No disrespect to actual sex workers.
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 02:12 PM
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17. Next year we can tell Joe to kiss off.
We pick up more Senate seats and Joe KNOWS the big F-U is coming. That's why he's milking it for all it's worth right now. He knows what's coming.

Bake
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 04:16 PM
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27. Bake,
You're right. He KNOWS it. He is in a unique position right now, but by late next year he is screwed.

Asshole picked the wrong team.
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 04:24 PM
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28. Even the Pukes won't want him then.
He'll have nothing to offer them, and he will officially be persona non grata. My guess is he'll retire at the end of his term. Nobody will want him.

Bake
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 02:15 PM
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19. Let shithead flip to the Minority GOP after 2008
when we'll be a much bigger majority. F*ck him.
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 02:23 PM
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20. Fixed that headline for you
Lieberman, Sticking his head back up Dubya's pooter, With Democrats crowded into a corner gagging from the half-digested cheeseburger fumes, says he'll continue pretending he's not a Republican mutant for Now, but Warns Them he'll keep flinging monkeyshit into the works until Tim Russert invites him back for weekly strokes and everyone starts calling him The Conscience of the Senate again. Oh, and he's still bullish on Iraq, but if the country burns to the ground, it's Ned Lamont's fault.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 04:35 PM
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29. charlie, I just peed my pants
you nailed it.
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Terri S Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 11:34 AM
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37. ah... I see you're well versed in Lieberspeak!
lol!!! :applause:
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 02:58 PM
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22. I thought he already changed over to the Republikans
Can you say holding his vote over their heads? I think you can....
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 04:37 PM
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30. It must have worked considering the cave on the funding bill.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 04:39 PM
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32. go fuck yourself joe. we ain't got enough with you or without you so fuck yourself.
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