Rand Paul Supporter Stomps Head Of Female MoveOn Member Outside KY Debate

[HipChick]

Video in link
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/10/male-rand-paul-supporter-stomps-head-of-female-moveon-member-outside-debate.php

Josh Green flagged an incident that occurred outside of the Rand Paul-Jack Conway debate Monday night that's already dominating the news in Kentucky and could easily make headlines nationally.

As the candidates arrived, a group of Paul supporters pulled a female MoveOn member to the ground and held her there as another Paul supporter stomped on the back of her head and neck.

According to the Louisville Courier Journal, "Lauren Valle of MoveOn.org approached Paul and tried to give him an "employee of the month award" from Republicorp...a fake business MoveOn created to symbolize what it says is the merger of the GOP and business interests controlling political speech."

t the end of the clip, Valle is alert and speaking with the press. However, MoveOn's political director Ilyse Hogue tells TPM that Valle is in the hospital and they're awaiting word on her condition

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

1. I'm sure it won't matter

Rand Paul voters are thugs, and if you are stupid enough to even consider him, you most likely are too.

[still_one]

unfortunately you are right /nt

[ClassWarrior]

6. What won't matter?

NGU.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

30. This won't sway anyone away from Rash Paul

I hope this thug is arrested and charged with assault, but if anyone thinks this will be some great revelation to the people of Kentucky that Mr. Paul is nothing but a pied piper of assholism to the point they reject him.....it won't.

[ClassWarrior]

33. It'll sway plenty of ordinary folks who have been desperately clinging to the belief that...

...the Rape-Publicans are good, Godly, values-valuing role models.

NGU.

[EconomicsIsGod]

12. The people who did this are absolute scum

and, if the story turns out to be true, deserve to be punished to the fullest extent of the law (and in my opinion, that is often not far enough). However, you can't dismiss all Paul supporters as thugs. I'm sure the vast majority of them view this act as every bit as disgusting as you do. Attack the man's message, don't make blanket statements like this that are simply not true. They hurt your cause far more than they help it.

[lpbk2713]

15. I think there has been enough attacking for one night.

Don't you?

[EconomicsIsGod]

Yes I do

and thats why I wish people would simply address the things that politicians say and why they are wrong/bad/justplainevil and stop using ad hominem attacks. Its a logical fallacy to think that that type of nonsense is actually a legitimate argument.

[Skittles]

22. the attacks are BECAUSE of what that asshat Paul does and says

HELLO

[EconomicsIsGod]

25. Where has he said

stomp on the head of an innocent woman or said anything that even implied that? Show me that and then we can talk about this. If you can't than your statement must be false.

[jberryhill]

27. You are right. Paul prefers kidnapping them and tying them up

But I'll borrow a phrase from Sharron Angle to sum up my reaction here:

Second Amendment Remedies

Got it?

Good

You tell your toothless buddies in the hills to watch their backs.

[EconomicsIsGod]

37. Where has he supported that? n/t

[ClassWarrior]

45. Really??

:rofl:

The strangest episode of Paul's time at Baylor occurred one afternoon in 1983 (although memories about all of these events are understandably a bit hazy, so the date might be slightly off), when he and a NoZe brother paid a visit to a female student who was one of Paul's teammates on the Baylor swim team. According to this woman, who requested anonymity because of her current job as a clinical psychologist, "He and Randy came to my house, they knocked on my door, and then they blindfolded me, tied me up, and put me in their car. They took me to their apartment and tried to force me to take bong hits. They'd been smoking pot." After the woman refused to smoke with them, Paul and his friend put her back in their car and drove to the countryside outside of Waco, where they stopped near a creek. "They told me their god was 'Aqua Buddha' and that I needed to bow down and worship him," the woman recalls. "They blindfolded me and made me bow down to 'Aqua Buddha' in the creek. I had to say, 'I worship you Aqua Buddha, I worship you.' At Baylor, there were people actively going around trying to save you and we had to go to chapel, so worshiping idols was a big no-no."

http://www.gq.com/blogs/the-q/2010/08/gq-exclusive-rand-pauls-crazy-college-days-hint-theres-a-secret-society-involved.html

NGU.

[EconomicsIsGod]

46. That by itself certainly seems damning

and in my mind, is a pretty messed up thing to. However, if you were to read the next paragraph in the article, the woman says "They never hurt me. They didn't do anything wrong." She just agrees with my assessment of it that it is kinda fucked up.

[ClassWarrior]

47. If I didn't know better, I'd wonder at your lack of a sense of humor, and your failure...

...to get the joke that jberryhill made at post #27. But then, that'd be pointless, wouldn't it?

:rofl:

NGU.

[The Uncola]

59. What the hell are you doing on this site?

If you want make to excuses for that asshole, go do it on a Teabagger site where you'll fit in. :puke:

[ClassWarrior]

28. When did Glenn Beck ever say to go kill people at two non-profit organizations in San Francisco?

Yet it's clear that Beck first attracted, then motivated a heavily armed psychopath named Byron Williams who got into a gun battle with police on his way to carry out this despicable mission for his hero Glenny.

NGU.

[Skittles]

43. LOL

LISTEN TO HIM - he's a fucking CREEP and an ASSCLOWN

[EconomicsIsGod]

20. Yes I do

and thats why I wish people would simply address the things that politicians say and why they are wrong/bad/justplainevil and stop using ad hominem attacks. Its a logical fallacy to think that that type of nonsense is actually a legitimate argument.

[Skittles]

19. have you ever talked to Paul supporters?

give it a shot - they are as nutty as he is

[Hassin Bin Sober]

31. If this story turns out to be true? Did you SEE the video?

[alfredo]

36. The guy that stomped her was complaining about

how dirty the campaign has been. Tough guy stepping on a woman.

[femrap]

53. It appeared to me as if

he was trying to break her neck. If she had been face-up and he did that on her larynx, she could have died. That's a serious assault tactic...break the larynx.

Any word on her condition...she was hospitalized. Put these racist, sexist bigots in orange.

Keep pressure on the Lexington Police to file charges.

[alfredo]

60. She suffered a concussion.

Here he is:

[Kalyke]

61. It reminds me of the "curbing" scene from "American History X."

Only she wasn't quite into position and that saved her neck, literally.

[EconomicsIsGod]

39. I did not

but please don't confuse that comment as me saying it did not happen. I simply didn't know and tend not to trust the first sign of a news story as gospel truth. Seeing as there is a video out, I'm not denying it happened and I believe those who did it need to get what they deserve as a result.

[blondeatlast]

38. "...your cause." Mmm, hmmm... nt

[EconomicsIsGod]

41. Not sure where you are going with that

but I don't support ad hominem attacks against any group no matter whether I agree with them or not. I love debate, I did it for two years of high school and qualified for the national tournament both times so I take issue with debate tactics that revolve around logical fallacies.

[Quantess]

48. Hi! Hey, I've got an ongoing curiosity about the appeal of Glenn Beck,

I know it's a bit off topic, but since you're still here, maybe you could offer some insights as to why Glenn Beck is so popular. To me, he is an emotionally labile, incoherent nut. What do you like about Glenn Beck?

[EconomicsIsGod]

49. Glen Beck seems insane to me.

I've tried to watch his show once. That was enough for me. I couldn't stand all the drama. I really can't see what anyone likes in him.

[ClassWarrior]

50. What do you think of this article?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9388415

NGU.

[EconomicsIsGod]

51. Interesting I guess

I'm not sure what I was supposed to get out of it. Personally, I am for abortion during certain parts of the pregnancy. I'm not sure what that article had to do with anything other than it was an interesting take on the issue.

[blondeatlast]

54. "...your cause." Who is this "your" to whom you refer? nt

[Skittles]

44. they gvie themselves away SO easily

:rofl:

[WinkyDink]

58. "They hurt your cause...." "YOUR"?? And what, pray, is YOUR cause, Mr/Ms 18 Posts, hmmmm???

[izzybeans]

2. holy shit

[Liberal Insights]

3. Dupe

See existing thread http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4588572

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

4. A lot of angry right wingers.

Imagine how they'll be if they lose.

[ClassWarrior]

7. More of them might actually come up out of their moms' basements.

NGU.

[DearAbby]

9. Insane people don't take disappointment

very well. We all have to be alert, this election isn't going to go as their prophets had predicted on Fox.

[tridim]

13. They already lost in 06 and 08.

So I can imagine the violent reaction will just continue.

[vixengrl]

32. And yet they absolutely must lose--

some will do batshit, some will recover. I can't feel more responsible for them than I do for the country I love.

[depakid]

5. Now here are two people whose house I might let burn down...

while they're doing time for felony assault.

[mmonk]

8. Republicorp thugs.

[Betty]

10. I hope they caught and arrested

the assholes.

[Hannah Bell]

11. Brownshirts. seriously.

[AC_Mem]

14. Oh my goodness!

I hope the woman is okay. Did anyone videotape this? Did they catch the people who did this to her?

Things are going too far. They want a war so badly that they are beginning to actually strike out.

What is happening to my America?

:(

[CoffeeCat]

62. Here is the videotape of this happening...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rm50--EFlPU

Apparently, she has pressed charges. Last I heard, the cops were looking to
identify the two men in the video; the one who wrestled her to the ground and
the other who foot stomped her body.

Both men have been identified, but I'm not sure if they've been arrested.

Undoubtedly, they both will be. It's assault and battery, no doubt.

[laughingliberal]

16. Horrible. nt

[Control-Z]

17. I hope to hell she presses charges.

The jerks cannot keep getting away with this kind of violence.

[HughMoran]

18. What???

:wtf:

This is pretty serious shit.

[GreenPartyVoter]

21. Holy crap! I hope she's going to be ok.

[felix_numinous]

23. Rethuglicans message is force

and intimidation, they really have no ideas or solutions for anything. Just fear and violence.

[kenny blankenship]

24. Here they are

[begin_within]

26. and this

[meow mix]

29. candidate whips up a hate frenzy, supporters follow his lead.

disgusting nazis

[alfredo]

34. Oh shit! I was there and left early before Paul arrived.

[opihimoimoi]

35. First Miller and now Rand...the BROWN SHIRTS are a coming.....runaway or stand and fight

[political_Dem]

40. Once violence is introduced into an election, a line is crossed.

I think the Teabaggers truly want to take this country by force. After all, their leaders keep on preaching "revolution" and "taking their country back".

Where's the Dept. Of Homeland Security when you need them?

[Radical Activist]

42. Fascist thugs.

Holy fuck.

[SweetieD]

52. The Right Wing Machine is already cooking up the Spin

as I've seen in some comments on various sites. Of course it is the woman's fault for being curbed stomped/assaulted.

[struggle4progress]

55. 859-425-2006

... Sherelle Roberts, a public information officer with the Lexington police, said they were looking for “at least two men, one who grabbed her and threw her to the ground and one who stepped on her head.” She said they would be charged with assault ... “Our search is focused locally, but if someone in Nebraska or New York knows who these men are, give us a call,” Ms. Roberts said. The number to call, she said, is 859-425-2006 ...
October 26, 2010, 12:37 PM
Protester Gets Stomped by Rand Paul Supporters Before Debate
By KATHARINE Q. SEELEYE
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/10/26/protester-gets-stomped-by-rand-paul-supporters-before-debate/?src=twrhp

[yurbud]

56. PHOTOSHOP: Orwell's thoughts on GOP stomping of progressive

http://fascart.blogspot.com/2010/10/orwell-on-gop-stomping-of-progressive.html

[yurbud]

57. PHOTOSHOP: Orwell's thoughts on GOP stomping of progressive

http://fascart.blogspot.com/2010/10/orwell-on-gop-stomping-of-progressive.html