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Brooklyns_Finest Donating Member (747 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 12:29 AM
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Has Julian Assange Released Any Info On China?
I am doubtful he would release anything critical of the Chinese government because they may actually strike back. He hides behind the laws and freedom in free countries to attack those countries. How about Russia? Once again, I doubt it. This guy definately has an agenda, and it is not about being a source for the truth. Its about embarrassing western governments--plain and simple.

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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 12:43 AM
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1. Um, actually the issue is that China doesn't exactly get "leaks"
And how are they gonna "strike back"? People have done tons of things to piss off the Chinese government without any retribution aside from some bullshit speech about smearing China.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 12:51 AM
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2. Just some top secret photos


:eyes:
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 12:52 AM
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3. Oh horseshit. This is about an illegal war
Conducted by the u.s.a. And the u.k.

That's all the agenda anybody needs.

The wasted money and wasted lives.

Get a grip.
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LAGC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 01:09 AM
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4. Has China invaded any foreign countries lately?
The bulk of Wikileaks' revelations are war-related, so naturally, he has an "anti-war" agenda.

Back when the old Wikileaks site was up, he did have some stuff on corruption in Thailand and a few other eastern countries if I recall. But ever since the new site came back up, it seems to be focusing solely on the war revelations.

It all just boils down to who leaks what to him. I imagine once these bullshit wars are ended (thanks to his help) Wikileaks will get back to the business of exposing government/corporate/religious secrets of all varieties, as information is provided.
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 01:17 AM
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5. What a pantload.
How the fuck do you know what his agenda is? :rofl:
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 01:19 AM
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6. china is at war? lying about war crimes?
i had no idea
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OKDem08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 01:21 AM
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7. Uh, yeah right...
we can't have anybody out there telling the truth :crazy:
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 01:22 AM
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8. They release what they are given.
They have posted some China/Tibet-related stuff.

China has better security, maybe? Greater fear for whistleblowers? Less-functional support in China? Assange has talked about wanting stuff from China and Russia.

Nice of you to come to your conclusion and then look for evidence to support it.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 01:31 AM
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democrank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 02:36 AM
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10. Our government SHOULD be embarrassed.
We have elected "leaders" in our government ignoring and/or supporting torture. Don`t blame Mr. Assange.
Our loss of respect around the world is well-deserved.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 05:43 AM
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11. Iran rejects as 'diabolical' WikiLeaks disclosures
Iran rejects as 'diabolical' WikiLeaks disclosures

Source: ap

TEHRAN, Iran (AP) — Iran on Tuesday rejected as "suspicious" and "diabolical" disclosures by WikiLeaks on its role in neighboring Iraq.

Foreign Ministry Spokesman Ramin Mehmanparast charged in his weekly news briefing that the website revelations were politically motivated.

"There are serious doubts ... regarding the intentions and objectives of the disclosures," he said.

"It has suspicious aims."

Mehmanparast said "the claims and accusations are unacceptable. This is a diabolical move."

He said Iran would confront these "immoralities" but did not say what measures Tehran intends to take.



Read more: http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hzOEi...


You actually made a very odd OP considering the news


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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 06:59 AM
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12. If he was afraid of governments that strike back, he wouldn't be releasing this info. Duh.
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kgnu_fan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 07:36 AM
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13. Wikileaks has been releasing lots of documents - The world only recently started to pay attention to
the site and its work. If you were truly interested, you could have looked at all of them. Now USA started to feel uncomfortable about its own secret, trouble began to multiply for Wikileaks. Too bad, now the site is down....

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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 08:10 AM
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14. i'm doubtful anyone leaks chinese information. nice try.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 08:35 AM
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15. So leaks are invalid unless they're fair and balanced?
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ljm2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 08:43 AM
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16. "I am doubtful" "I doubt it" "This guy ... has an agenda"
You post without one single shred of evidence to back up your assertions, yet you feel perfectly free to disparage Julian Assange and, just for good measure, to assign motives to him.

Tell you what, if you want to embarrass China then why don't YOU go ahead and start up a secure distributed web site, place the servers in countries with strong whistle-blower protections, advertise to any and all that they can reveal secrets to you, vet the resulting items you receive and post them for the world to see.

Let's see how you handle it when it's YOUR ass on the line.

Maybe you'll at least gain an appreciation for what Julian Assange does.

I don't idolize anyone. I'm sure Mr. Assange has his faults. But I do believe he is providing us with that rarest of things, some actual truth about current affairs. Not "the" truth, that is for God or the Universe or what have you. But he is exposing truths of war, and for that we should thank him.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 08:52 AM
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17. here you go: WikiLeaks to post Russian, Chinese files
MOSCOW, Oct. 26 (UPI) -- WikiLeaks, the Web site that published U.S. Defense Department documents, is getting ready to release secret files from Russia and China, a site spokesman said.

WikiLeaks official Kristinn Hrafnsson told the Russian newspaper Kommersant the subjects of the disclosures were the "despotic regimes" in China, Russia and central Eurasia, RIA Novosti reported Tuesday.

"Russians are going to find out a lot of interesting facts about their country," Kristinn said.

more:

http://en.rian.ru/russia/20101026/161087816.html
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 04:00 PM
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18. LOL
Good timing on OP's part.
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 04:31 PM
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19. Did Brooklyns_Finest do any research at all prior to posting baseless insinuations?
Obviously not! The big example is the announcement of major Wikileaks releases on China and Russia.

Dozens of Wikileaks releases listed here:

http://wikileaks.org/media/about.html

QUOTE: "Since formation in 2007, WikiLeaks has been victorious over every legal (and illegal) attack, including those from the Pentagon, the Chinese Public Security Bureau, the Former president of Kenya, the Premier of Bermuda, Scientology, the Catholic & Mormon Church, the largest Swiss private bank, and Russian companies. WikiLeaks has released more classified intelligence documents than the rest of the world press combined."

Examples involving China, QUOTE:

•Inside Somalia and the Union of Islamic Courts - Vital strategy documents in the Somali war and a play for Chinese support

•Eutelsat suppresses independent Chinese-language TV station NTDTV to satisfy Beijing - French sat provider Eutelsat covertly removed an anti-communist TV channel to satisfy Beijing


Wikipedia actually gives a better overview of the many actions Wikileaks has conducted, most of which involve releases from entities other than the USG:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WikiLeaks#Relation_with_the_Wikimedia_Foundation


That page currently has the following section:

Chinese censorship
The Chinese government currently attempts to censor every web site with "wikileaks" in the URL, including the primary .org site and the regional variations .cn and .uk. However, the site is still accessible from behind the Chinese firewall through one of the many alternative names used by the project, such as "secure.sunshinepress.org". The alternate sites change frequently, and WikiLeaks encourages users to search "wikileaks cover names" outside mainland China for the latest alternative names. Mainland search engines, including Baidu and Yahoo!, also censor references to "wikileaks".<78>



I think a sincere apology for the OP is in order. You're welcome.
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