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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 07:58 AM
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Former girlfriend says Clarence Thomas was a binge drinker, porn user
(CNN) -- Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas was a binge drinker who had a pornography habit or fetish in the 1980s, then changed radically when he stopped drinking alcohol, his former girlfriend told CNN on Monday.

Lillian McEwen, who dated Thomas for several years before he was nominated to the Supreme Court in 1991, provided CNN's "Larry King Live" program with a harsh depiction of Thomas. She said when they first met, he might have been a "raving alcoholic" who used pornography to help fulfill sexual fantasies, but then gave up drinking and transformed into an angry, obsessive man who bullied his son.

King said during the program that Thomas' office declined offers to comment on the topics of the interview.

Thomas almost had his Supreme Court nomination derailed when another woman, Anita Hill, accused him of sexual harassment when they worked together in the 1980s at the U.S. Department of Education and then the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/10/25/scotus.thomas.mcewen/index.html?hpt=C1
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 07:59 AM
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1. And he left the toilet seat up
:shrug:
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 08:03 AM
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3. he wasn't that bad
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 08:03 AM
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2. Oh yes, this man was an excellent choice
for the USSC. As opposed to that commie, pinko, gay, anti-military woman Kagan. Or, or that 'wise latina women' Sotomayor.

Thank you Ginny - you opened up a nice little can of worms. :) And thank you Larry King.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 08:06 AM
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4. What I would like to know is what he did on those
"long runs" in the darkness. Might be worth looking into. Running in the dark took nerve, tho, didn't it.
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 08:14 AM
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5. Wonder if CT knew the wife was going
Edited on Tue Oct-26-10 08:41 AM by madmax
to call Ms.Hill. Love to hear the conversations between those two as this comes back into the media and he's faced with it again. :bounce:
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 08:24 AM
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11. We can reasonably assume he was home at 7:30 am on a Saturday
when she left her phone message. I'm surprised there has been no discussion of this possibility.

I would bet he was standing right by her as she read her pre-scripted message.

What a pair of despicable human beings!
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 08:28 AM
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14. I don't know - maybe he was in the shower ;-) eom
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 08:53 AM
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27. Maybe he still hadn't come home from being "working late" the night before? n/t
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Yeshuah Ben Joseph Donating Member (763 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 08:17 AM
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6. His love of porn is pretty much on the record, isn't it?
Long Dong Silver, for Dad's sake??
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 08:18 AM
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7. I still don't like him.
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Mira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 08:46 AM
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24. I was reading merrily down the comments, (I did see the show) and when I came to yours
I spit yogurt on the screen.
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 08:58 AM
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31. Mira - you must stop spitting on the screen
it annoys the pixels :hug:
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 08:57 AM
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30. Good one, Waterman!
:rofl:
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Lucy Goosey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 08:18 AM
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8. I love how this whole "apologize to my husband" story is playing out!
I'm probably having too much fun imagining the conversations between Clarence & Ginni these days. Awkward! :rofl:
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 08:21 AM
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10. Exactly - that's where the real fun is happening. eom
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ProfessionalLeftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 08:19 AM
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9. And this 'personality' is one of the ones meting out "justice" from
the top court in the land?

I must say this gives me a VERY UNSETTLING feeling.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 08:24 AM
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12. The typical Republican hero. Woo-hoo! nt
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kjackson227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 08:25 AM
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13. I'll bet that Virginia Thomas has seen something in her...
husband's character or personality that has led her to question whether he actually did harass Ms. Hill in this manner. The reason why she called Anita Hill is because Virginia feels that without Hill's apology, she will always question her husband's character and the strength of their marriage. Without Ms. Hill's apology, this will forever haunt this married couple. I think Ms. McEwen just confirmed what a lot of people already know, (including Virginia), that Clarence Thomas is scum.
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 08:30 AM
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15. Another gift - bring it all back to
the American people who remember those hearings. You know we have the attention span of a gnats ass. This may be a good thing. :evilgrin:
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Balbus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 08:33 AM
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16. Someone who drinks and likes porn...
oh, the horror.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 08:34 AM
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17. it's the lying about it....supreme court justice...that's the horror
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 08:38 AM
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19. Those weren't the only factors
He harassed Anita Hill.

Porn and drinking in private is fine, I doubt anyone here would care. That's not the point. He was nominated for USSC and his behavior outside his own home was at question. Now be nice ;)
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cbdo2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 08:37 AM
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18. Ok, so he's just like 99% of the rest of the men in the U.S.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 08:39 AM
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20. speak for yourself
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 08:39 AM
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21. But, they aren't on the USSC
Edited on Tue Oct-26-10 08:40 AM by madmax
nor do they make laws that will affect our lives. I don't care who's wacking off to Debbie Does Dallas as long as they keep it separate from their professional life.
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cbdo2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 08:47 AM
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25. You think he's the only supreme courty justice who's ever watched porn or binge drinked?
That would be very surprising.
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 08:51 AM
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26. What is surprising is the bullshit
he said and did to Anita Hill. Hellooooo
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cbdo2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 08:57 AM
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29. Not sure how that has anything to do with drinking or watching porn.
I'm not disagreeing with you that he did what he did to Anita Hill, but did he testify that he never watched porn or was a binge drinker?
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 09:03 AM
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33. Oh, pffft - I don't care if he watches porn nor do
I care that Clinton got a BJ. It's what they do that affects our country and our lives that I care about. The rest is their own business. Maybe more of them need to watch some porn and get a BJ - lighten up and do what's right for the American people and the country.



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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 09:24 AM
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36. Wrong.
Your experiences in life are not everyone else's.
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 08:41 AM
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22. Her main complaint was that when he quit alcohol he was emotionally unstable
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 08:41 AM
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23. Can we have people removed from the Supreme Court?
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Mira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 08:56 AM
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28. An interesting and novel thought from a friend of mine.
She saw the show; she was married to a man who came out to her as gay after a number of years.

She thinks that the porn might have been a cover, and that stopping the drinking which left him "asexual" in Lillian McEwen's words, might have helped remove the ability to use the porn as a stimulant. She did say, in another interview I saw, that he watched the porn during intercourse.

So, just as another aside to ponder, he may be a gay man on the Supreme Court. (And possibly not the only one. The closet may have gotten a bit bigger)



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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 09:00 AM
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32. It did - it's known as the 'Cloak Room'
:bounce:
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 09:07 AM
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34. Yeah it's just One Big Gay Conspiracy
with some people, at least.
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 09:14 AM
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35. Its his crappy understanding of the constitution I dislike
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taught_me_patience Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 09:25 AM
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37. Who gives a shit if he binge drank and watched porn?
Most guys I know, including me, did too. His sexual harassment, on the other hand, is a completely different story.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 10:12 AM
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38. I wouldn't stand a chance in that trial.
Foreman: Mr. Initech, have you been known to partake in alcohol?
Me: Yeah, I just got back from the bar.
Foreman: Mr. Initech, are you familiar with a video series called "Anal Entry Vol. 1-40"?
Me: There's only 40 volumes?
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Gin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 10:45 AM
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39. (IMO) his old habits are surfacing again...and Ginni is freaking out
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