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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 09:10 AM
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MoveOn released the organization's first statement on the Jackboot brownshitts
Justin Ruben, Executive Director of MoveOn released the organization's first statement on the matter:



We're appalled at the violent incident that occurred at the Kentucky Senate debate last night. Numerous news reports clearly show that the young woman--a MoveOn supporter--was assaulted and pushed to the ground by Rand Paul supporters, where one man held her down while another stomped on her head. This kind of violence has no place in American society, much less at a peaceful political rally.

Our first concern is obviously Lauren's health and well being. She is recovering, and we will release more details as we have them.


We are concerned that no arrests have yet been made


and we hope those responsible will be brought to justice quickly,
and that Rand Paul will join us in condemning this horrible act.




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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 09:12 AM
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1. (They) hate us for our freedoms - G W bush eom
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 09:23 AM
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2. I was gonna title this

'We are concerned that no arrests have yet been made"... by MoveOn. Org

But that fits the whole cabal over the many years.
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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 09:28 AM
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3. "We are concerned that no arrests have yet been made".
Edited on Tue Oct-26-10 09:28 AM by Gold Metal Flake
Looking forward, not back. Misunderstanding. Boys will be boys. Liberal media.

IOKIYAR
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 09:38 AM
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6.  suffered a concussion but was released from the hospital
A MoveOn official tells the Huffington Post that Valle suffered a concussion but was released from the hospital very early on Tuesday morning. She is leaning toward pressing charges, the official added.


Huffington Post is updating the story as it breaks



Assault and Battery

Assault and battery is the combination of two violent crimes: assault (the threat of violence) and battery (physical violence). This legal distinction exists only in jurisdictions that distinguish assault as threatened violence rather than actual violence



In Tennessee

Tennessee Code Section 39-13-101. Assault.
(a) A person commits assault who:

(1) Intentionally, knowingly or recklessly causes bodily injury to another;

(2) Intentionally or knowingly causes another to reasonably fear imminent bodily injury; or

(3) Intentionally or knowingly causes physical contact with another and a reasonable person would regard the contact as extremely offensive or provocative.

(b) (1) Assault is a Class A misdemeanor unless the offense is committed under subdivision (a)(3), in which event assault is a Class B misdemeanor.

(2) In addition to any other punishment that may be imposed for a violation of this section, if the relationship between the defendant and the victim of the assault is such that the victim is a victim as defined in § 36-3-601(8), and if, as determined by the court, the defendant possesses the ability to pay a fine in an amount not in excess of two hundred dollars ($200), then the court shall impose a fine at the level of the defendant's ability to pay, but not in excess of two hundred dollars ($200). Such additional fine shall be paid to the clerk of the court imposing sentence, who shall transfer it to the state treasurer, who shall credit the same to the general fund. All such fines so credited to the general fund shall be subject to appropriation by the general assembly for the exclusive purpose of funding family violence shelters and shelter services. Such appropriation shall be in addition to any amount appropriated pursuant to § 67-4-411.
Tennessee's aggravated assault statute references that prior statute, and provides:
Quoting Tennessee Code Section 39-13-102. Aggravated assault.
(a) A person commits aggravated assault who:

(1) Intentionally or knowingly commits an assault as defined in § 39-13-101 and:

(A) Causes serious bodily injury to another; or

(B) Uses or displays a deadly weapon; or

(2) Recklessly commits an assault as defined in § 39-13-101(a)(1), and:

(A) Causes serious bodily injury to another; or

(B) Uses or displays a deadly weapon.

(b) A person commits aggravated assault who, being the parent or custodian of a child or the custodian of an adult, intentionally or knowingly fails or refuses to protect such child or adult from an aggravated assault as defined in subdivision (a)(1) or aggravated child abuse as defined in § 39-15-402.

(c) A person commits aggravated assault who, after having been enjoined or restrained by an order, diversion or probation agreement of a court of competent jurisdiction from in any way causing or attempting to cause bodily injury or in any way committing or attempting to commit an assault against an individual or individuals, intentionally or knowingly attempts to cause or causes bodily injury or commits or attempts to commit an assault against such individual or individuals.

(d) (1) Aggravated assault under subdivision (a)(1) or subsection (b) or (c) is a Class C felony. Aggravated assault under subdivision (a)(2) is a Class D felony. The court shall consider as an enhancement factor at the time of sentencing that the victim of the aggravated assault was a law enforcement officer, firefighter, correctional officer, youth services officer, probation and parole officer, or a state registered security officer/guard performing an official duty or an employee of the department of correction or the department of children's services; provided, that such officer or employee was performing an official duty. The court shall consider as an enhancement factor at the time of sentencing that the victim of the aggravated assault was an emergency medical or rescue worker, emergency medical technician, or paramedic, whether compensated or acting as a volunteer; provided that such technician or worker was performing an official duty.

(2) In addition to any other punishment that may be imposed for a violation of this section, if the relationship between the defendant and the victim of the assault is such that the victim is a victim as defined in § 36-3-601(8), and if, as determined by the court, the defendant possesses the ability to pay a fine in an amount not in excess of two hundred dollars ($200), then the court shall impose a fine at the level of the defendant's ability to pay, but not in excess of two hundred dollars ($200). Such additional fine shall be paid to the clerk of the court imposing sentence, who shall transfer it to the state treasurer, who shall credit the same to the general fund. All such fines so credited to the general fund shall be subject to appropriation by the general assembly for the exclusive purpose of funding family violence shelters and shelter services. Such appropriation shall be in addition to any amount appropriated pursuant to § 67-4-411.
So the possible penalty depends upon the subsection under which he is charged.
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 09:49 AM
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9. leaning toward pressing charges, my ass.
I wouldn't hesitate one nanosecond. I'd be at the copshop as soon as I got out of the hospital asking "Where do I sign the complaint?"
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vi5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 09:30 AM
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4. How long until there is a resolution...
in congress with roughly 90% democratic support, condemning Move On over this incident?

I give it a week.
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 09:43 AM
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7. Why exactly would they be condemned?
Although I disagreed with what Congress did- condemning Move On over its "Betrayus" ad, condemning violence against people is hardly comparable to publicly attacking a prominent military figure (even though the Republicans and the right exploited him too in order to maintain support for our occupation in Iraq). :shrug:
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vi5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 09:48 AM
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8. It was sarcasm....
Because in any situation or conflict, (The Petraus Ad, Shirley Sherrod, Acorn, etc). our elected democrats can't condemn liberal activists fast enough, even in the most absurdly obvious situations where nothing wrong was done and worse yet when the liberal activists are the victim.

And I'm sorry if I wouldn't put it past them to do the same thing even in a situation like this one which is cler cut.

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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 01:00 PM
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11. I do see your point (and agree)
:hi:

It makes me mad too that conservatives get a free pass to say pretty much whatever they want without repercussions but Democrats and liberal activists are almost always instantly condemned and vilified, sometimes before even all of the facts are in (like with what happened to ACORN). :puke:


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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 09:34 AM
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5. "with liberty and justice for ALL"
Edited on Tue Oct-26-10 09:42 AM by Tsiyu

What?

No justice for a woman in Kentucky?

Second class citizen if you're a woman in Kentucky?

I think its time to call their board of tourism and let them know we uppity wymmins won't be visiting their state any time soon...

Edit to add www.kentuckytourism.com



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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 11:15 AM
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10. Rand Paul: Let the free market sort it out. nt
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