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Cal33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 12:50 PM
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Great article by Robert Reich showing the differences in mental resolve between Dem and Pub voters
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Robert Reich | After the Midterms


After the Midterms: Why Democrats Move to the Center, and Republicans Don't

<> f Republicans succeed in taking over the House and come even close to gaining a majority in the Senate, expect calls for the President to "move to the center." These will come not only from Republicans but also from conservative Democrats, other prominent Dems who have been defeated, Fox Republican News, mainstream pundits, and White House political advisers.

After the 1994 midterm, when Dems lost the House and Senate, Bill Clinton was told to "move to the center." He obliged by hiring the pollster Dick Morris, declaring the "era of big government is over," abandoning much of his original agenda, and making the 1996 general election about nothing more than V-chips in televisions and school uniforms.

It happened in the 1978 midterm when Dems lost ground and Jimmy Carter was instructed to "move to the center." He obliged by firing his entire cabinet, apologizing for the errors of his ways, and making the 2000 general election about absolutely nothing.

Oddly, though, after Republicans suffer losses in the first midterms they pay no attention to voices telling them to move to the center. If anything, Ronald Reagan and the two Bushes moved further right.

Could it be that Republican presidents understand a few things Democrats don't? For example:

1. There is no "center" to American politics. The "center" is merely what most people tell pollsters they think or want at any given time. Trying to move to the center by following polls means giving up on leadership because you can't lead people to where they already are.

2. By the first midterm the public is almost always grouchy because the president wasn't a messiah and didn't change the world. No single president has that kind of power. The higher the expectations for change at the start of an administration, the greater the disillusionment.

3. Presidents' parties always lose the first midterm elections because the President isn't on the ticket, and the opposing party has had time to regroup and refuel. It's always easier for the party on the outs to attack - and to mass troops for the assault - than for the party inside to defend.

4. The economy trumps everything else, even though presidents aren't really responsible for it. So when it's bad - as it was during the first midterms of Carter, Reagan, and Clinton - voters penalize the president's party even more than usual. When it's very bad, the electoral penalty is likely to be that much larger.

Why are Democratic presidents so much more easily intimidated by the "move to the center" rhetoric after midterm losses than Republican presidents?

Because Democrats think in terms of programs, policies, and particular pieces of legislation. It's easy to reverse course by compromising more and giving up on legislative goals. Bill Clinton never mentioned the words "health care reform" after the 2004 midterms.

Republicans think in terms of simple ideas, themes, and movements. It's far harder to reverse course on these (look what happened to the first George Bush when he raised taxes), and easier to keep them alive: Republican presidents just continue looking for opportunities to implement them.

Republicans are also more disciplined (ask yourself which party attracts authoritarian personalities and which attracts anti-authoritarians). This makes it easier for them to stay the course. Their base continues to organize and fulminate even after midterm defeats. Democrats, on the other hand, are less organized. Electoral defeats tend to fracture and dissipate whatever organization they have.

Republicans are cynical about politics from the jump. Political cynicism fuels them. Democrats are idealistic about politics. When they become cynical they tend to drop out.

Message to Obama: Whatever happens November 2, don't move to the center. Push even harder for what you believe in. Message to Democrats: Whatever happens, keep the courage of your conviction and get even more active.



Robert Reich is Professor of Public Policy at the University of California at Berkeley. He has served in three national administrations, most recently as secretary of labor under President Bill Clinton. He has written twelve books, including "The Work of Nations," "Locked in the Cabinet," "Supercapitalism" and his latest book, "AFTERSHOCK: The Next Economy and America's Future." His 'Marketplace' commentaries can be found on publicradio.com and iTunes.

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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 12:55 PM
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1. When it seemed like a progressive landslide after Obama won
I dont recall ever seeing the MSM (or anyone else) calling on the conservatives in Congress to move left.

I say fuck that double standard, Obama becomes the last line of progressivism to thwart another conservative coup in our country.
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Cal33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 01:13 PM
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2. Hi DJ13: You were right. Your idea is similar to what Robert Reich wrote. Only he gave a good,
long explanation -- with an appeal to the Dem. voters. In my post,
the link "Read More" didn't work. So I edited my post and added in
the whole article. Please re-read it if you should see this message.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 01:13 PM
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3. Too bad the prez couldn't find a place for Reich in his administration...
Oh yeah, not center enough.
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Cal33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 06:04 PM
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18. If Obama gets to read this article, do you think he might become convinced that
there is no "center?"
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 06:23 PM
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19. Good question - I don't know. nt
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2008 was great Donating Member (20 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 01:29 PM
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4. Bad Advice
I think this is poor advice from Reich.
If Obama follows Reich's advice - "Whatever happens, keep the courage of your conviction and get even more active.",
he will be dead meat in 2012.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 01:36 PM
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6. We have enough conservatives in office
The President needs to remain true to his base (those arent conservatives) if he hopes to win again in 2012.

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AndrewP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 01:39 PM
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7. Yep. He doesn't need any more conservatives at all. n/t
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2008 was great Donating Member (20 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 01:45 PM
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8. Who is his base?
Last I looked, he was elected because many Independents and those "in the middle"
voted for him. If he ignores those people, he will have a much more difficult time
getting a 2nd term.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 01:48 PM
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9. The middle arent conservatives either
Keep trying.
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2008 was great Donating Member (20 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 02:02 PM
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12. He needs the "middle"
As much as I hate to say it, he needs the middle.
Same as a repub needs the middle.
If the "middle" is not happy, he will not get a 2nd term.
I'm not "trying". I'm just stating reality.
The reality is, there are people like us, there are repubs and there is the "middle".
Any presidential candidate who ignores the middle, will severely risk being elected.
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 01:34 PM
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5. Is this a copy & paste from something
Reich has written? If so, it's very carelessly written. What has Carter have to do with the 200 election? Or Clinton with the "2004 midterms"? Where do these numbers come from?

Not judging the (in)validity of the idea itself, but these figures just jumped at me...
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Cal33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 01:48 PM
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10. Maybe Reich was in a hurry? These numbers jumped at me, too.
You also made a typo "200" instead of 2000. He must have meant
1978 for Carter, and 1994 for Clinton.
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Cal33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 02:23 PM
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14. Oops! I forgot to answer your question. It is a copy and paste from Reich's artifcle.
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 03:43 PM
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16. And you typed "artiFcle" :-) n/t
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Cal33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 05:20 PM
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17. Yes, I did. My fingers often touch two keys at the same time -- among other mistakes. :o)
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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 01:50 PM
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11. The WSJ says there may not be many conservative Dems left
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 02:14 PM
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13. The center is this mythical space holding indecisive people
who should determine how the country should be run.

It is an imaginary tool used by Media to try to push
their agenda.

Independents are simply people who for whatever reason
do not want to belong to a party. However they have
opinions. You have independents who lean Democratic
and independents who lean Republican. Some follow
politics, some do not until it is close to the election.
Very often they are Ticket Splitters. They will vote
for Republican for one office and a Democrat for another
office all on one ticket.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 02:38 PM
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15. I think both Carter and Clinton started out in the Center
so they did not have all that far to move.

Carter started out as a fiscal conservative. His first budget slashed a bunch of programs, including most of the water projects in South Dakota. Clinton campaigned on "grow the economy" in 1992 like he was a member of the Chamber of Commerce. One of his first acts was to push through NAFTA. I just don't believe that they started out as lefties and then moved to the center after disastrous midterms.

Obama also campaigned as a centrist. It's not like he's been a principled leftist so far, but I certainly think it would be a mistake to cave on the Bush tax cuts and to focus on balancing the budget in the next two years. I still think it is sad that Democrats did not pass an extension of the Bush tax cuts for lower incomes way back in June. At least if they tried they could have spent a few months hammering at Republicans for blocking it.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 06:29 PM
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20. Interesting comment:
"Republicans are cynical about politics from the jump. Political cynicism fuels them. Democrats are idealistic about politics. When they become cynical they tend to drop out."

I think it is true.
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Cal33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 07:07 PM
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21. Yes, it does ring true to me also. Robert Reich does have a sharp,
discerning and analytical mind.
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