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rudy23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 12:40 PM
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Folks, we are one terrorist attack away from a dictatorship
No more investigations, no US Attorney testimonies, no hearings on false Iraq intelligence, no hearings on gas prices or no-bid contracts, or torture, secret CIA prisons, illegal wiretapping, Katrina--one terrorist attack, and that all goes away, along with Congress and the Supreme Court, and everything else that seperates us from a dictatorship.

We just brought ourselves one millimeter from the edge--all it will take is one attack. Poof. No more US government. No more constitution. No election in '08.

All this while we have a majority in Congress and Chimpy is polling around 30%. Unbelievable.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 12:42 PM
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1. or a hurricane
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 12:03 AM
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8. Or a really big earthquake.
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Morgana LaFey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 09:13 PM
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46. or an avian flu epidemic
which was so very popular with the CIC awhile back (remembeer)?
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RevCheesehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 12:46 PM
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2. This really frightens me.
I'm sending copies of the Truthout article to friends. People NEED to know. :scared:
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Truth2Tell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 08:51 PM
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43. They've been wanting to do this for quite awhile!
Take a look at this clip from the Iran Contra hearings:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ug0IL7k3elQ&mode=related&search=
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 11:50 PM
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3. Do you have more info?
I heard "tid-bits" but am not in the know on this.
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 11:56 PM
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4. This thread has a good amt of info....
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 12:01 AM
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6. I'll give yuo the full document
National Security and Homeland Security Presidential Directive




White House News

NATIONAL SECURITY PRESIDENTIAL DIRECTIVE/NSPD 51

HOMELAND SECURITY PRESIDENTIAL DIRECTIVE/HSPD-20

Subject: National Continuity Policy

Purpose

(1) This directive establishes a comprehensive national policy on the continuity of Federal Government structures and operations and a single National Continuity Coordinator responsible for coordinating the development and implementation of Federal continuity policies. This policy establishes "National Essential Functions," prescribes continuity requirements for all executive departments and agencies, and provides guidance for State, local, territorial, and tribal governments, and private sector organizations in order to ensure a comprehensive and integrated national continuity program that will enhance the credibility of our national security posture and enable a more rapid and effective response to and recovery from a national emergency.

Definitions

(2) In this directive:

(a) "Category" refers to the categories of executive departments and agencies listed in Annex A to this directive;

(b) "Catastrophic Emergency" means any incident, regardless of location, that results in extraordinary levels of mass casualties, damage, or disruption severely affecting the U.S. population, infrastructure, environment, economy, or government functions;

(c) "Continuity of Government," or "COG," means a coordinated effort within the Federal Government's executive branch to ensure that National Essential Functions continue to be performed during a Catastrophic Emergency;

(d) "Continuity of Operations," or "COOP," means an effort within individual executive departments and agencies to ensure that Primary Mission-Essential Functions continue to be performed during a wide range of emergencies, including localized acts of nature, accidents, and technological or attack-related emergencies;

(e) "Enduring Constitutional Government," or "ECG," means a cooperative effort among the executive, legislative, and judicial branches of the Federal Government, coordinated by the President, as a matter of comity with respect to the legislative and judicial branches and with proper respect for the constitutional separation of powers among the branches, to preserve the constitutional framework under which the Nation is governed and the capability of all three branches of government to execute constitutional responsibilities and provide for orderly succession, appropriate transition of leadership, and interoperability and support of the National Essential Functions during a catastrophic emergency;

(f) "Executive Departments and Agencies" means the executive departments enumerated in 5 U.S.C. 101, independent establishments as defined by 5 U.S.C. 104(1), Government corporations as defined by 5 U.S.C. 103(1), and the United States Postal Service;

(g) "Government Functions" means the collective functions of the heads of executive departments and agencies as defined by statute, regulation, presidential direction, or other legal authority, and the functions of the legislative and judicial branches;

(h) "National Essential Functions," or "NEFs," means that subset of Government Functions that are necessary to lead and sustain the Nation during a catastrophic emergency and that, therefore, must be supported through COOP and COG capabilities; and

(i) "Primary Mission Essential Functions," or "PMEFs," means those Government Functions that must be performed in order to support or implement the performance of NEFs before, during, and in the aftermath of an emergency.

Policy

(3) It is the policy of the United States to maintain a comprehensive and effective continuity capability composed of Continuity of Operations and Continuity of Government programs in order to ensure the preservation of our form of government under the Constitution and the continuing performance of National Essential Functions under all conditions.

Implementation Actions

(4) Continuity requirements shall be incorporated into daily operations of all executive departments and agencies. As a result of the asymmetric threat environment, adequate warning of potential emergencies that could pose a significant risk to the homeland might not be available, and therefore all continuity planning shall be based on the assumption that no such warning will be received. Emphasis will be placed upon geographic dispersion of leadership, staff, and infrastructure in order to increase survivability and maintain uninterrupted Government Functions. Risk management principles shall be applied to ensure that appropriate operational readiness decisions are based on the probability of an attack or other incident and its consequences.

(5) The following NEFs are the foundation for all continuity programs and capabilities and represent the overarching responsibilities of the Federal Government to lead and sustain the Nation during a crisis, and therefore sustaining the following NEFs shall be the primary focus of

the Federal Government leadership during and in the aftermath of an emergency that adversely affects the performance of Government Functions:

(a) Ensuring the continued functioning of our form of government under the Constitution, including the functioning of the three separate branches of government;

(b) Providing leadership visible to the Nation and the world and maintaining the trust and confidence of the American people;

(c) Defending the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic, and preventing or interdicting attacks against the United States or its people, property, or interests;

(d) Maintaining and fostering effective relationships with foreign nations;

(e) Protecting against threats to the homeland and bringing to justice perpetrators of crimes or attacks against the United States or its people, property, or interests;

(f) Providing rapid and effective response to and recovery from the domestic consequences of an attack or other incident;

(g) Protecting and stabilizing the Nation's economy and ensuring public confidence in its financial systems; and

(h) Providing for critical Federal Government services that address the national health, safety, and welfare needs of the United States.

(6) The President shall lead the activities of the Federal Government for ensuring constitutional government. In order to advise and assist the President in that function, the Assistant to the President for Homeland Security and Counterterrorism (APHS/CT) is hereby designated as the National Continuity Coordinator. The National Continuity Coordinator, in coordination with the Assistant to the President for National

Security Affairs (APNSA), without exercising directive authority, shall coordinate the development and implementation of continuity policy for executive departments and agencies. The Continuity Policy Coordination Committee (CPCC), chaired by a Senior Director from the Homeland Security Council staff, designated by the National Continuity Coordinator, shall be the main day-to-day forum for such policy coordination.

(7) For continuity purposes, each executive department and agency is assigned to a category in accordance with the nature and characteristics of its national security roles and

responsibilities in support of the Federal Government's ability to sustain the NEFs. The Secretary of Homeland Security shall serve as the President's lead agent for coordinating overall

continuity operations and activities of executive departments and agencies, and in such role shall perform the responsibilities set forth for the Secretary in sections 10 and 16 of this directive.

(8) The National Continuity Coordinator, in consultation with the heads of appropriate executive departments and agencies, will lead the development of a National Continuity Implementation Plan (Plan), which shall include prioritized goals and objectives, a concept of operations, performance metrics by which to measure continuity readiness, procedures for continuity and incident management activities, and clear direction to executive department and agency continuity coordinators, as well as guidance to promote interoperability of Federal Government continuity programs and procedures with State, local, territorial, and tribal governments, and private sector owners and operators of critical infrastructure, as appropriate. The Plan shall be submitted to the President for approval not later than 90 days after the date of this directive.

(9) Recognizing that each branch of the Federal Government is responsible for its own continuity programs, an official designated by the Chief of Staff to the President shall ensure that the executive branch's COOP and COG policies in support of ECG efforts are appropriately coordinated with those of

the legislative and judicial branches in order to ensure interoperability and allocate national assets efficiently to maintain a functioning Federal Government.

(10) Federal Government COOP, COG, and ECG plans and operations shall be appropriately integrated with the emergency plans and capabilities of State, local, territorial, and tribal governments, and private sector owners and operators of critical infrastructure, as appropriate, in order to promote interoperability and to prevent redundancies and conflicting lines of authority. The Secretary of Homeland Security shall coordinate the integration of Federal continuity plans and operations with State, local, territorial, and tribal governments, and private sector owners and operators of critical infrastructure, as appropriate, in order to provide for the delivery of essential services during an emergency.

(11) Continuity requirements for the Executive Office of the President (EOP) and executive departments and agencies shall include the following:

(a) The continuation of the performance of PMEFs during any emergency must be for a period up to 30 days or until normal operations can be resumed, and the capability to be fully operational at alternate sites as soon as possible after the occurrence of an emergency, but not later than 12 hours after COOP activation;

(b) Succession orders and pre-planned devolution of authorities that ensure the emergency delegation of authority must be planned and documented in advance in accordance with applicable law;

(c) Vital resources, facilities, and records must be safeguarded, and official access to them must be provided;

(d) Provision must be made for the acquisition of the resources necessary for continuity operations on an emergency basis;

(e) Provision must be made for the availability and redundancy of critical communications capabilities at alternate sites in order to support connectivity between

and among key government leadership, internal elements, other executive departments and agencies, critical partners, and the public;

(f) Provision must be made for reconstitution capabilities that allow for recovery from a catastrophic emergency and resumption of normal operations; and

(g) Provision must be made for the identification, training, and preparedness of personnel capable of relocating to alternate facilities to support the continuation of the performance of PMEFs.

(12) In order to provide a coordinated response to escalating threat levels or actual emergencies, the Continuity of Government Readiness Conditions (COGCON) system establishes executive branch continuity program readiness levels, focusing

on possible threats to the National Capital Region. The President will determine and issue the COGCON Level. Executive departments and agencies shall comply with the requirements and

assigned responsibilities under the COGCON program. During COOP activation, executive departments and agencies shall report their readiness status to the Secretary of Homeland Security or the Secretary's designee.

(13) The Director of the Office of Management and Budget shall:

(a) Conduct an annual assessment of executive department and agency continuity funding requests and performance data that are submitted by executive departments and agencies as part of the annual budget request process, in order to monitor progress in the implementation of the Plan and the execution of continuity budgets;

(b) In coordination with the National Continuity Coordinator, issue annual continuity planning guidance for the development of continuity budget requests; and

(c) Ensure that heads of executive departments and agencies prioritize budget resources for continuity capabilities, consistent with this directive.

(14) The Director of the Office of Science and Technology Policy shall:

(a) Define and issue minimum requirements for continuity communications for executive departments and agencies, in consultation with the APHS/CT, the APNSA, the Director of the Office of Management and Budget, and the Chief of Staff to the President;

(b) Establish requirements for, and monitor the development, implementation, and maintenance of, a comprehensive communications architecture to integrate continuity components, in consultation with the APHS/CT, the APNSA, the Director of the Office of Management and Budget, and the Chief of Staff to the President; and

(c) Review quarterly and annual assessments of continuity communications capabilities, as prepared pursuant to section 16(d) of this directive or otherwise, and report the results and recommended remedial actions to the National Continuity Coordinator.

(15) An official designated by the Chief of Staff to the President shall:

(a) Advise the President, the Chief of Staff to the President, the APHS/CT, and the APNSA on COGCON operational execution options; and

(b) Consult with the Secretary of Homeland Security in order to ensure synchronization and integration of continuity activities among the four categories of executive departments and agencies.

(16) The Secretary of Homeland Security shall:

(a) Coordinate the implementation, execution, and assessment of continuity operations and activities;

(b) Develop and promulgate Federal Continuity Directives in order to establish continuity planning requirements for executive departments and agencies;

(c) Conduct biennial assessments of individual department and agency continuity capabilities as prescribed by the Plan and report the results to the President through the APHS/CT;

(d) Conduct quarterly and annual assessments of continuity communications capabilities in consultation with an official designated by the Chief of Staff to the President;

(e) Develop, lead, and conduct a Federal continuity training and exercise program, which shall be incorporated into the National Exercise Program developed pursuant to Homeland Security Presidential Directive-8 of December 17, 2003 ("National Preparedness"), in consultation with an

official designated by the Chief of Staff to the President;

(f) Develop and promulgate continuity planning guidance to State, local, territorial, and tribal governments, and private sector critical infrastructure owners and operators;

(g) Make available continuity planning and exercise funding, in the form of grants as provided by law, to State, local, territorial, and tribal governments, and private sector critical infrastructure owners and operators; and

(h) As Executive Agent of the National Communications System, develop, implement, and maintain a comprehensive continuity communications architecture.

(17) The Director of National Intelligence, in coordination with the Attorney General and the Secretary of Homeland Security, shall produce a biennial assessment of the foreign and domestic threats to the Nation's continuity of government.

(18) The Secretary of Defense, in coordination with the Secretary of Homeland Security, shall provide secure, integrated, Continuity of Government communications to the President, the Vice President, and, at a minimum, Category I executive departments and agencies.

(19) Heads of executive departments and agencies shall execute their respective department or agency COOP plans in response to a localized emergency and shall:

(a) Appoint a senior accountable official, at the Assistant Secretary level, as the Continuity Coordinator for the department or agency;

(b) Identify and submit to the National Continuity Coordinator the list of PMEFs for the department or agency and develop continuity plans in support of the NEFs and the continuation of essential functions under all conditions;

(c) Plan, program, and budget for continuity capabilities consistent with this directive;

(d) Plan, conduct, and support annual tests and training, in consultation with the Secretary of Homeland Security, in order to evaluate program readiness and ensure adequacy and viability of continuity plans and communications systems; and

(e) Support other continuity requirements, as assigned by category, in accordance with the nature and characteristics of its national security roles and responsibilities

General Provisions

(20) This directive shall be implemented in a manner that is consistent with, and facilitates effective implementation of, provisions of the Constitution concerning succession to the Presidency or the exercise of its powers, and the Presidential Succession Act of 1947 (3 U.S.C. 19), with consultation of the Vice President and, as appropriate, others involved. Heads of executive departments and agencies shall ensure that appropriate

support is available to the Vice President and others involved as necessary to be prepared at all times to implement those provisions.

(21) This directive:

(a) Shall be implemented consistent with applicable law and the authorities of agencies, or heads of agencies, vested by law, and subject to the availability of appropriations;

(b) Shall not be construed to impair or otherwise affect (i) the functions of the Director of the Office of Management and Budget relating to budget, administrative, and legislative proposals, or (ii) the authority of the Secretary of Defense over the Department of Defense, including the chain of command for military forces from the President, to the Secretary of Defense, to the commander of military forces, or military command and control procedures; and

(c) Is not intended to, and does not, create any rights or benefits, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by a party against the United States, its

agencies, instrumentalities, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents, or any other person.

(22) Revocation. Presidential Decision Directive 67 of October 21, 1998 ("Enduring Constitutional Government and Continuity of Government Operations"), including all Annexes thereto, is hereby revoked.

(23) Annex A and the classified Continuity Annexes, attached hereto, are hereby incorporated into and made a part of this directive.

(24) Security. This directive and the information contained herein shall be protected from unauthorized disclosure, provided that, except for Annex A, the Annexes attached to this directive are classified and shall be accorded appropriate handling, consistent with applicable Executive Orders.

GEORGE W. BUSH

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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 12:16 AM
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11. Thanks
I think. :scared:
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 12:18 AM
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13. Did not tell you it was conforting readying
but why is our wonderful media not covering this?

In my view this IS the story of the day
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 12:19 AM
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14. Well, Paris IS going to jail.
That's more important.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 12:24 AM
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16. With a bible no less
the snarkiness from KO on that one today made me chuckle

;-)
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 12:35 AM
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17. Darn,
missed it!
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Andre II Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 02:47 PM
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37. Thanks a lot for the info
Can somebody please point out to me what the changes are that were implemented by this law?
Thanks a lot in advance!
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 05:03 PM
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41. I read it, but I must have missed the part where it talked about dissolving Congress and the courts
Care to point it out?
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roamer65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 11:58 PM
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5. Nah. we're one attack away from a second civil war.
There are many people in this country who will not take a dictatorship lying down.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 12:03 AM
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7. Without an attack we are close to a HOT civil war
we are in the midst of a cold one already...
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 01:11 AM
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19. I'm one of them.
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sanskritwarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 03:44 AM
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21. How do we have a civil war when there are
no boundaries, no distinctions marking friend or foe. In Iraq, a persons name as well as their appearance mark them as different from the group. How are we planning on identifying who is the enemy?

Personally I think the American public is WAY too lazy for either a revolt or a civil war. As long as their paychecks keep coming, their TV still works, and they can still have the Colonel's chicken on Wednesday night after the kids CCD, I think they won't rock the boat.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 11:18 AM
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32. That's pretty cynical, don't you think?
:shrug:
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 12:05 AM
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9. A terrorist attack away or just plain time and acceptance.
Edited on Wed May-23-07 12:06 AM by mmonk
Hope the first never comes and for the latter, more people who won't be lulled into acceptance.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 12:06 AM
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10. I guess I'll party like it's 1999
See you in da Quarters, brah.

PARTY ON FRENCHMAN ST!



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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 08:58 PM
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44. Can I join ya for that Swampy?
I'd sure like to meet you.
You're one of my long time faves on DU.
There's a good chance I may be in NOLA
the second week of June.
I'm flying into Jackson MI and I understand
it is short drive to where you are,
not that I wouldn't drive further to meet ya.
BHN
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 12:17 AM
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12. NSDP 51 und der Chimpen Furher. Zeig heil ! nt
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 12:22 AM
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15. * would have hell controlling us, we'd know we were Shanghai'd.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 01:10 AM
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18. Yep
I'm awfully sick of looking over this precipice. Damn sick of it.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 01:13 AM
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20. Oh, I know this, and it scares the shit out of me.
More than anything Osama could ever dream of. The Republican coup is stronger now than anyone could possibly imagine (even with the defeat in '06, they still have a sizable minority). Another attack and I'll leave the states forever.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 04:21 AM
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22. Or one air or sea invasion into Iran...
Think about it!
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 04:33 AM
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23. or severe gas shortage...
just think how debilitating that would be. perfect excuse to exercise his prerogative...
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firefox_fan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 05:34 AM
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24. And if that happens, what do you think the Dem Congress will do?
I'm sure they'll fight like hell. They just had a practice run... Sigh.
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 05:36 AM
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25. AND I might add...a Civil War.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 06:25 AM
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26. great minds think alike: link
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 06:54 AM
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27. We entered dictatorship six years ago.
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jollyreaper2112 Donating Member (955 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 06:58 AM
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28. Wrong!
We're already there. The Dems are the placebo party.
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 08:26 AM
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29. ............
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 11:13 AM
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30. My tin hat is on.....
and I believe that * and KKKarl have told the Dems: "Either fund this war or we can have another terror attack (false flag operation)....and there goes your precious little Democracy."
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 11:16 AM
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31. get yer shit ready, because we have been warned
the "9/11" fear stories are running thin and we are about a year from another election (that I say will not happen). Bush will do something before November 2008 to cement his totalitarian control.

Get your plan together. Mine includes food and enough gas to get me to DC where I will set up camp on the Mall. I hope to see thousands of you there. I also think that we are seeing the reasons behind the 2nd Amend coming to the surface.
:)
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conspirator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 05:21 PM
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42. Thats the spirit! nt
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Morgana LaFey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 09:15 PM
Response to Reply #31
47. yes, I was just going to add: and if you (anyone) thinks that they
will leave that "one terrorist attack away" to CHANCE, think again.


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Rosemary2205 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 11:32 AM
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33. I don't believe that
I think the paleocons, Buchananettes, will figure out a way to get them out of the White House. If you think the left hates Bush - we've got nothing on the old time conservatives' hate for Bush.
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Mrspeeker Donating Member (671 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 12:22 PM
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34. yeap, its all been part of the plan
It kind of like watching th movie V for Vendetta, cept where cast in the movie!
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 04:52 PM
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39. Or the 2nd & 3rd seasons of Bablyon 5
They have already assembled the Night Watch.

http://www.usaonwatch.org/
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BrainGlutton Donating Member (202 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 02:12 PM
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35. Errmm . . . what are you basing this on?
I mean, we kept a functioning democracy ticking along DURING THE CIVIL WAR. Wouldn't it take a lot more than one more terrorist attack to destroy it?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 04:57 PM
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40. Well, think through what happened in New Orleans during Katrina.
They didn't let the Red Cross in or even drinking water but BLACKWELL got in just fine.

The government couldn't be contacted, let alone asked for redress.

The WH knew the levies were breached and warned no one, not even the hurricane center.

People got dead, went uncounted, and survivors were dispersed all over the country.

Low income housing units untouched by water were shut down and those people went homeless.

When Greg Palast reported on all this, he was arrested by Homeland Security.

How's that for a start? Oh -- and Brownie did a heckuva job.
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milkyway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 02:22 PM
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36. Yep, one "emergency" anywhere in the world disrupting U.S. economy and Bush seizes complete
control of all branches of government, according to the "National Security Presidential Directive/NSPD 51" released on May 9th. It states:

(b) "Catastrophic Emergency" means any incident, regardless of location, that results in extraordinary levels of mass casualties, damage, or disruption severely affecting the U.S. population, infrastructure, environment, economy, or government functions;
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/05/2007050...

This means an incident anywhere in the world that would severely disrupt the U.S. economy...for instance, an action in the Middle East that disrupts the flow of oil. A.J. Soprano was right: Bush is going to bomb Iran.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 04:47 PM
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38. Not so unbelievable. The "Hitler Principle" as I call it, has been used in many ages, many nations
You see, most nations, especially those with some degree of freedom, are something of a compact by their politicians to operate within the rules.

Sure there are minor exceptions and stretchings of said rules, but everyone agrees to play by them.

Like a boxer stepping into the ring expecting to fight by Marquis de Quennbury rules but is shocked when their opponent pulls out a gun and ventilates their head, a Bush, a Hitler, a Pinochet, a Marcos, a Caeser knows that when you don;t give a shit about "the rules" it give you a distinct advantage over a person or party that is trying to work within and protect those rules (in this case, the US Constitution)

By not believing in liberal constitutional mumbo-jumbo, the Loyal bushies and their Masters are bound by no rules, as dictated by their Guiding Star, the "Jewish Nazi" Leo Strauss, who concluded that the only way to stop Nazism was by adopting most of their ruling characteristics but benevolently.

Strauss was a fool. There is no "benevolent" way to use the precepts of tyranny, as he propsed and as BushCheney dispose.

Strauss said this or something very close to this, "The only rule of law is that of the superior over the inferior." (google it to get the exact quote) Jewish Nazi, I says, and this Jew satdns by my own words in regards to Mr. Strauss.

Anyway, the Hitler principle says that the tyrant (Bush, Stalin, Pol Pot, they may have differing degress of brutality, but they are essentially the same guy) just keeps on rolling. Words, letters of intent, judicial rulings, and ANY ACTION SHORT OF ARREST/DRAGGING AWAY IN CHAINS, means the tyrant continues on and that his action is now "legal". On to the next lawless moment. Is the tyrant arrested and dragged away in chains? No? Then the action is now "legal". This is an endless repetition of what happened in Rome in the 40s BC, Germany in the 1930s, and America in the 2000s.

And yes, the ends do very much appear to be similar.

And yes, this "chatter" from the Bushies that we are hearing could very well mean that "nuclear 9/11" is not very far away from being implemented. God Forbid the Bushies should do this to protect their power, but i will not ignore the terrorist chatter as we did in the months leading up to 9/11.

Chatter such as Ashcroft and the rest abandoning commercial airlines for "unnamed security reasons" in July-August 2001.

Chatter such as the dozen warnings from foriegn intelligence that were ignored by the Bushies.

Chatter such as the multiple "simulations" running on 9/11 that confused and suppressed our defense response that day. Which was real and which was fake?

HINT: If the Bushies stage multiple "simulations" of a nuclear 9/11 all on the same day, then the chatter and threat level is RED for a "Nuclear 9/11" coming soon (I say again, God Forbid)

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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 09:04 PM
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45. Amen. N/T K&R
BHN
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 09:40 PM
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48. My two cents, posted earlier today (a bit long)
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 07:03 AM
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49. Kick!!!!! eom
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 07:09 AM
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50. Folks, pay attention to the real crimes, and current reality, not hypotheticals
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 04:38 PM
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51. Another kick! This has to be read and understood by all!!!! This is imperitive! eom
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