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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 10:00 PM
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These AREN'T Normal Times
Edited on Tue Oct-26-10 10:12 PM by kpete
Right now all that should matter to any of us is defeating the most radical, authoritarian, anti-intellectual Republican class in modern memory (and that's saying something.) They were thoroughly repudiated at the polls in the last two elections and they haven't learned a thing from those losses. Indeed, the lesson they took was that they hadn't been aggressively wrong enough. Instead of seeing where they went wrong and making adjustments, they've doubled down on their worst policies and are prepared to go even further.

In normal times they wouldn't stand a chance of doing any better than a normal midterm and would probably do worse. But these aren't normal times. The average American is frightened and confused while the rightwing is excited and overstimulated. The toxic combination of Bircherism, big money, xenophobia and social conservatism that defines the Tea Party is happening at a moment of maximum danger.

Those of you who are following the day to day see the danger signs:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mike-lux/thugs_b_774283.html


..........................

* Alaska Senate candidate Joe Miller hires a group tied to a paramilitary militia to do security for him, and his paratroopers assault and handcuff a citizen journalist just trying to get a question answered.

* a bullet is shot through Rep. Grijalva's campaign office window, and obscene threats and dangerous chemicals are delivered to his ofc as well.

* Rep. Perriello's gas line to his house was cut.

* Republican congressional candidate Allen West using a motorcycle gang known for violent criminal activity for security, and then gang members actually harassed and bullied a Democratic staffer trying to videotape a public event.

* Vandalism and assassination threats occur at offices of Congressional members during the health care fight.

* a doctor who performs abortions in KS is brutally murdered while coming out of his church on a Sunday morning.

* a guard at the Holocaust Museum is murdered by an anti-Semitic racist stoked by listening to Limbaugh and Beck.

* a lunatic also stirred up by Glenn Beck shows about the Tides Foundation is stopped on his way to murder people at the Tides office in San Francisco.

more:
http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2010/10/theyre-from-tea-party-and-theyve-come.html

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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 10:08 PM
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1. Not to mention their 24/7 Cable news station that feeds the radical ideas.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 10:15 PM
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2. Does the Fux Propaganda Network *WANT* a civil war?
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 10:22 PM
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3. Not if they can get total control of the country without it.
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 01:19 AM
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36. Most of us realize this election is a fight for the very survival of our nation.
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 01:20 AM
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37. If repubs take control of either house there won't be a 'next time' only a collapse of democracy.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 10:30 PM
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5. Yes, that or preferably a coup
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 10:38 PM
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10. One does have to wonder about their ultimate agenda. Sometimes I think a coup is
sadly entirely possible. A lot of brainwashing goes on in this country.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 10:49 PM
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15. I really do wonder about Fux's ultimate agenda, it's scary what they're after.
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tomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 05:44 PM
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32. not just possible. we've already had two coups in my lifetime.
jfk assassination.

bush v. gore.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 10:44 PM
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14. They already had their coup on January 21st, 2001.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 10:49 PM
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16. Yeah but to keep illusions
I mean the one where the Constitution is suspended.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 10:52 PM
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18. The teabaggers are always the first to bring up the constitution.
But I bet very few have actually read it, let alone completely understand it.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 10:55 PM
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19. Sadly that is most Americans
Like religious folks who've never read the Bible, or Capitalists who've never read the Wealth.

As a nation we don't read.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 11:02 PM
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21. In California you're required to pass a constitution test to advance 8th grade.
Which makes me wonder how many people cheated on it judging by the number of Fux News viewers around here.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 11:05 PM
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22. If you memorize but don't care
It goes in and out
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 01:21 AM
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38. FOX is cultivating destruction they think they will be able to control..hahahaha
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one_voice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 10:23 PM
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4. I'm gonna have to look up this one...
* Republican congressional candidate Allen West using a motorcycle gang known for violent criminal activity for security, and then gang members actually harassed and bullied a Democratic staffer trying to videotape a public event.

I must have missed it when it happened.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 10:32 PM
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6. And the list is not complete
We've attended tea party rallies. As a historian the parallels to... No, not Germany but Italy are just eerie. Only thing missing are the uniforms.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 10:33 PM
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7. Preach it
I was told this ky event is isolated...
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 10:33 PM
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8. A s the elected officials look for terrorists around the world
they overlook the white terrorists in their backyard
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 10:42 PM
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12. Yeah, exactly my thoughts too, the really dangerous problems are brewing here
right in the US, not chasing terrorists all over the world.
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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 01:29 PM
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27. yes
exactly,
peace, kp
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 10:35 PM
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9. I wish Americans were not so slow to wakeup to what is happening. This is such a
clueless country in so many ways. And some are foolish enough to think voting for the RW is going to give them a job. Their ignorance is appalling. What a bunch of suckers.
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 10:40 PM
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11. Sometimes it seems we're headed toward Civil war.
Maybe the inevitable outcome of a two party system?
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 10:43 PM
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13. We are...
Edited on Tue Oct-26-10 10:50 PM by nadinbrzezinski
I first saw this five years ago. I predicted the increase in violence and was called a few names.

It matches what I heard from people I debriefed during the central American wars. Hot civil wars are preceded by cold phases. I am not sure if action now will stop it anymore.
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 10:59 PM
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20. Many urban assault vehicles are being built
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 11:24 PM
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24. ?
care to explain that? Who's building them, and how do you know?
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 11:39 PM
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25. Polaris is building them is my understanding
A heavy duty ATV for military use
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 10:50 PM
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17. Welcome to the new normal
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OlympicBrian Donating Member (456 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 11:09 PM
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23. Welcome to the corporatocracy...
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 11:40 PM
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26. Chilling to read, but certainly plausible IMO and seemingly well underway. n/t
Edited on Tue Oct-26-10 11:42 PM by RKP5637
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srf Rantz Donating Member (143 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 02:42 PM
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28. Have a nice Fascism...
Fascist America: Is This Election the Next Turn?

more background by same author:

Fascist America: Are We There Yet?


...casual violence against immigrants, gays, and progressives may escalate as the Tea Party brownshirts become bolder, confident that at least some authorities will either back them up or look the other way.

In this scenario, the fail-safe point -- the point beyond which no country has ever turned back from the full fascist nightmare -- may well be behind us when we wake up on November 3. From there, the rest will play out in agonizing slow motion; and the character of the rest of this decade will hinge almost entirely on whether the corporatists, the militarists, or the theocrats ultimately get the upper hand in the emerging regime.


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deaniac21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 02:46 PM
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29. overwrought
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BanTheGOP Donating Member (596 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 05:32 PM
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30. NOW can you see that the GOP is NOT so much a "political organization" than a CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE??
I am SICK>>>>AND>>>>TIRED.....of moderate weenies of any stripe who does NOT think that the republican party is, in fact, an ILLEGAL ENTERPRISE that should merit its officers LONG YEARS IN PRISON. EVERY republican is a criminal, and should be treated as such.

To that end, we need to legally ban the party using RICO statutes. ONCE WE DO THAT, we will ELIMINATE virtually EVERY ATROCITY DESCRIBED IN THE OP.

Pure and simple. ANY other opinion other than this one is an APPEASEMENT to the bastard Nazis....that is ANY OPINION!!
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 05:39 PM
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31. The GOP is a long time racist terrorist organization.
Folks insisting on treating and thinking of them as "the loyal opposition" with simple philosophical disagreements is pretty much nutty to me.
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The_Commonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 06:00 PM
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34. "ANY other opinion...
...other than this one is an APPEASEMENT..."

Oh really?

"...that is ANY OPINION!!"

Better watch it there, Bucky!

I know you're mad and all, and want to get your two-minute hate on, but that's just crazy talk.
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the redcoat Donating Member (510 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 05:45 PM
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33. "Anti-intellectual" is the only one I'm worred about
I don't believe Tea Baggers themselves are pro-authoritarian, though I believe the people they support are, which goes back to the resurgence of anti-intellectualism.

Also, with a well-informed populace, radical action becomes legitimate because the intentions are informed. So I will not denounce something simply because it is radical. The REAL danger is when radicalism is a result of mental manipulation by authoritarians. It is all made possible by anti-intellectualism.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 08:05 PM
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35. There is a reason many of us here on DU have been calling them RETHUGS for years.
They should also be called Sociopaths and Psychopaths.

:yoiks:
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