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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 06:28 AM
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Salon: How we know Clarence Thomas did it, and why it's important that we acknowledge it
How we know Clarence Thomas did it, and why it's important that we acknowledge it

http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2010/10/27/anita_hill_clarence_thomas/index.html

By Steve Kornacki

Wednesday, Oct 27, 2010 07:01 ET



Even before last week's unexpected revelations, the evidence of Thomas' guilt was considerable. Here's what we already knew, before last week's events:

* As Thomas' confirmation was nearing a final vote in October '91, an affidavit from Hill was leaked to National Public Radio's Nina Totenberg (the source was never identified); in the document, which Hill, then a University of Oklahoma law professor, had prepared for the Senate Judiciary Committee several weeks earlier, she alleged that Thomas had repeatedly asked her out on dates and made lewd and graphic sexual comments to her when she had worked for him in the early 1980s. She made clear that the harassment had not been physical and that Thomas had never threatened her job, but said that she nonetheless felt uncomfortable and intimidated. "I felt as though I did not have a choice, that the pressure was such that I was going to have to submit to that pressure in order to continue getting good assignments," Hill told Totenberg. She added that she had followed Thomas from job to job -- first at the civil rights division of the Department of Education and then at the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission -- because the harassment had briefly stopped. She was 25 years old when she first went to work for Thomas in 1981.

* Three Hill friends -- Susan Hoerchner, Ellen Wells and John Carr -- testified under oath that she had told them about Thomas' conduct as it happened between 1981 and 1983. "Anita said that Clarence Thomas had repeatedly asked her out ... that he wouldn't seem to take 'no' for an answer,'' Hoerchner told senators. "The thing Anita told me that struck me particularly and that I remember almost verbatim was that Mr. Thomas had said to her, 'You know, if you had witnesses, you'd have a perfect case against me.'"

* Upon learning of Hill's claims, another former Thomas employee, Angela Wright, who had worked under him as director of public affairs at the EEOC, wrote a column -- not meant for publication and intended only to show potential employers at a North Carolina newspaper that she could turn around a fast and topical piece -- outlining the inappropriate behavior he'd exhibited toward her. Somehow, Judiciary Committee investigators learned of the column, contacted Wright, and convinced her to sit for a phone interview, during which she detailed a pattern of harassing behavior, including an instance in which Thomas asked her what her bra size was. She was subpoenaed by the committee and flew to Washington to testify in the nationally televised hearing; the basics of her claims were reported by media outlets at the time. Her testimony would have bolstered Hill's case -- a second female Thomas underling, one who had never met or worked with Hill, accusing him of the same conduct. But the committee never called Wright, and instead simply entered the transcript of her interview into its record on the eve of the final vote. The details of her interview were buried in press reports.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 06:41 AM
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1. I don't get it. How did Thomas end up choosing to marry Ginny?
Edited on Wed Oct-27-10 06:43 AM by no_hypocrisy
I mean it.

In the Eighties, this guy was obsessed with porn, bra sizes, was a raging alcoholic.* And he marries a born-again Christian/Teabagger who is not an African-American. What happened?

* http://articles.cnn.com/2010-10-25/us/scotus.thomas.mcewen_1_anita-hill-pornography-binge-drinker?_s=PM:US
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 07:01 AM
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3. his conservative rulings amount to a kind of revenge fueled by anger against liberals who he believe
We are in f---land:

To McEwen, his conservative rulings amount to a kind of revenge fueled by anger against liberals who he believes turned against him.

"His enemies are people who are active in civil rights, professors who have criticized him and anybody who disagrees with the conservative friends that he has such as Rush Limbaugh," she said.

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mazzarro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 08:50 AM
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8. IOW The Good Of The Country and Society Can Go To Hell...
So long as he gets his revenge - eh? This man should not have been anywhere near the SC let along be a replacement for Thurgood Marshall. Think about it, if people like Thurgood Marshall, MLK, Nelson Mandella, Gandhi, etc had been as vengeful as Clarence Thomas after what they went through, the world would been far more worse of now!
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Nitram Donating Member (28 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 09:00 AM
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9. Why Ginny?
Classic Madonna/whore split in his view of women.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 09:57 AM
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13. Welcome to DU. You make a good point.
:hi:
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 09:44 AM
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12. Doesn't mean he's having sex with a born-again white woman.
Let's face it, he's probably about as faithful as any other religious conservative. Which means I'll have *zero* surprise when he's on TV confessing to having meth-fueled gay orgies or something.
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sammytko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 09:57 AM
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14. I think its either the bottle or the bible
If you saw the McEwan interview with Larry King, she said that he started acting "weird". He gave up drinking, started working out and lost interest in sex. She called him asexual.

to me it sounds like he did what a lot of addicts do - go from one extreme to the other. He married Ginny since she was such a god-fearing woman, not because he loved her.

She is strange also. I read some articles about her and her dabbling with some est type mind control group - well spring(?) or something like that.

She worked for a congressman and went with him to washington when he first got elected. I have a feeling she was in love with the guy and they had some kind of affair - just my intuition.

From then on all bets were off. She went from associating with this group to forming some kind of anti-cult group.

I'm also surprised that she never had kids being from the midwest and all.

They both do not seem to be tightly wound and so are perfect for each other, but the bandages are starting to loosen. Can you imagine living a lie for so many years?
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 06:41 AM
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2. And may every member of that committee itch.
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Pab Sungenis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 07:15 AM
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5. Remember, one of the people who helped sweep a lot of this under the rug
is a heartbeat away from the Oval right now.

It was a pleasure to see the worst of the offenders finally lose his Senate seat, though.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 04:17 PM
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15. Biden can function with an itch.
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affrayer Donating Member (261 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 07:02 AM
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4. Times are a changing
Interesting how little concern the right wingers are showing now-a-days for high officials committing perjury...
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 07:20 AM
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6. welcome to DU!
Hey -- even an ex-Congressman who resigned under scandal can run for Governor in Georgia - as long as he's a Republican. :eyes:
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affrayer Donating Member (261 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 09:39 AM
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10. How Many Criminals Are Running As Republicans?
I've never seen so many criminals running for office as republicans.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/10/gop-candidate-killed-unarmed-iraqi/">Tea Party backing candidate who allegedly shot unarmed Iraqis 60 times

The level of right wing sanctimonious hypocrisy is off the charts.
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 08:49 AM
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7. Tongue in cheeck, right?
;)

Welcome to DU :hi:
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affrayer Donating Member (261 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 09:43 AM
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11. Not In The Least
It is clear that Clarence Thomas committed perjury during his confirmation hearings when he was questioned about the accusations concerning Anita Hill. With two close intimate but completely unrelated witnesses who have said the exact same thing about him, this should be a slam dunk if it was ever prosecuted.

Now compare the complete silence by republicans with the ballyhoo they raised about Clinton...night and day!
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