Contempt on Karl Rove's face before his turn on Face the Nation when being served with our subpoena

[GreenTea]

(Karl Rove will be stealing elections in certain precincts around the country again next week November 2 2010 - And why not, Rove knows nothing ever happens to him, nor the republican candidate in question, nor the states that have a republican Secretary of State - who by law control the voting, the counting and the certifying of that states elections. All Rove has to do and has done, is deny, deny and deny - with unverifiable, no paper trails, easily hackable electronic voting & scanning machines Rove and his computer hacks can steal as they please and they have only gotten better at it through the years).

Imagine the look of contempt on Karl Rove's face this past Sunday as he swaggered toward his star turn on CBS's Face the Nation only to be served with our subpoena sanctioned by the Secretary of the State of Ohio.
The federal subpoena orders Rove to testify in deposition. Our attorney, Cliff Arnebeck, intends to ask Mr. Rove about his role in the theft if the 2004 election, and to discuss his orchestration of tens of millions of corporate/billionaire dollars in the one coming up on November 2, 2010.
As co-counsel and plaintiff in the on-going King-Lincoln-Bronzeville federal lawsuit, we have fought for six years to win justice and full disclosure in an election that Rove stole for George W. Bush.

In the course of this civil rights federal suit, we have seen the illegal destruction of hundreds of thousands of paper and electronic ballots that were supposedly protected by federal law.
We have seen 56 of 88 Ohio counties destroy most of their poll records, making a full recount of the 2004 vote an impossibility. Some of this destruction was done in defiance of federal law and a federal court order, for which no one has been prosecuted.
We have also seen the very mysterious and disturbing death of Michael Connell, Rove's former chief computer guru. Rove used Connell to establish the electronic tools and architectural framework through which the vote count manipulations that shifted the election from John Kerry to Bush were accomplished.
An experienced professional pilot, Connell died improbably in a fiery crash at his home airport in Canton in December, 2008. Connell had been deposed the day before the November 2008 election. Attorney Arnebeck was in the process of preparing for another round of questioning when Connell's life was ended.
Our subpoena is aimed at letting Rove explain all he did to give himself, Bush, and Dick Cheney another term in the White House.
But there is much more. With the US Supreme Court's infamous Citizens United decision, the floodgates have opened to an unprecedented wave of cash coming from corporations and billionaire donors such as the Koch Brothers. By many accounts at least $150 million in corporate/billionaire lucre is being laundered through Rove's American Crossroads.
Under Rove's orchestration, this money is being used to wipe Democrats out of Congress and to take control of the apportionment process at the state level throughout the country.
"Rove is the de facto head of a coordinated Republican national campaign in which Tom Donahue of the Chamber of Commerce is a senior partner, while the Republican National Committee has been relegated to junior partner status," says Arnebeck.
"Rove has filled the airwaves with high-priced attack ads funded by the mega-corporations and billionaires that stand to benefit most from another assault on the public trust and treasury.
"He and the Koch Brothers have also funneled large bundles of cash to a Tea Party astroturf organization meant to give the Republican campaign a grassroots veneer.

"From the fiasco of Florida 2000 through the theft of Ohio 2004 to the present, there has been no significant federal reform of the electoral process or curtailment of the use of easily manipulated electronic voting machines," adds Arnebeck. "With the added tsunami of cash from Citizens United , Rove's role as the principal perpetrator of a racketeering conspiracy, as defined by the Ohio Corrupt Practices Act, has been vastly enhanced."

"Our lawsuit stemming from the widespread 'irregularities' that defined the 2004 election has never been settled," concludes Arnebeck. "With the approval of the out-going Secretary of State, Jennifer Brunner, we have served Mr. Rove with a legally binding requirement that he
answer a few questions."

www.freepress.org

www.harveywasserman.com

[EFerrari]

1. K&R

[Oceansaway]

2. K&R...n/t

[ProgressiveProfessor]

3. What happens when he says he doesn't recall or know anything

You have to see that one coming.

[onethatcares]

4. I would hope the deposition would go on and on and on

change attorneys that are asking questions, let them bring in other attorneys, but keep on. Do a marathon session.

[ProgressiveProfessor]

8. Actually deposition lengths are normally agreed to ahead of time and can not

be unreasonable in length or undue impact on the witness. While I expect eventually he will have to give a deposition, I do not expect much to come of if. Its just the way the system works.

[Kurovski]

11. Torture it out of him?

He seems to think it's a good idea.

I'm of course kidding about a worthless yet horrible practice that continues to make America look like the worst of history's wretched regimes.

[WinkyDink]

14. Nah. Just use enhanced interrogation techniques! VERY enhanced!

[Kurovski]

16. With music!

[RaleighNCDUer]

75. It is perfectly legal, after all. nt

[Kurovski]

77. It certainly is

Also immoral, degrading to our culture, hypocritical, and a hazard to our troops.

But legalized crimes are always the sweetest, as Wall Street well knows.

[JNelson6563]

18. Time for some frat-house tomfoolery?

Like the kind he and his pals seem so fond of doing to others and dismissing as nothing but harmless prank-level discomfort.

[femrap]

24. He hasn't answered subpoenas in the

past. I would think that Ohio 'officials' would have to 'detain' him. What we need are co-conspirators and significant documentation....then treat him and his cabal as we did Mafia/rackets.

[Citizen Worker]

45. Watch for the Reagan and Scooter Libby defense, to the best of my recollection I can't recall.

[emulatorloo]

68. "Tim Russert Told Me" n/t

[political_Dem]

5. Is it too much to wish that this might lead him toward incarceration?

I know in reality that KKKarl will some how slip out of this, but there is still an inkling of hope that this man might go to
prison. He's gotten too much from the fat of the land for too long.

[CubicleGuy]

74. Nothing will happen

The current administration has nothing to gain by having someone prove that our elections can be manipulated. It's much better for the American people to go on believing that elections are carefully monitored and that nothing can go wrong.

Go wrong.

Go wrong.

Go wrong...

[SpiralHawk]

6. Thank you for your service to America

[Kurovski]

7. K&R for one of the most important posts on DU today.

so says I, the mighty and great Oz. ;)

[butterfly77]

9. I didn't see him on face the nation but..

I have been seeing pics and clips of him lately I told someone I know that he seemed to be on the defensive and had a scared look on his face lately,maybe this among other things,is why,.

[Kingofalldems]

10. K and R. Republicans will not like this one.

[AC_Mem]

12. K & R

[LaPera]

13. How absentee votes can be used to steal elections--and what to do about it.....

This is a mildly technical e-mail, but just may save an election near
you next week. Pass this along to your favorite political party or
candidate, because they'll need to act quickly if their election is
problematic. Their database guy will know what to do with this new
method to isolate absentee votes anomalies. You can see shortcut
images and discuss this here:
http://www.bbvforums.org/forums/messages/8/81251.html

Absentee voting is even more opaque and high-risk than most US voting
methods. Locations with no-fault absentee voting like Marin County,
California now have nearly two-thirds of all votes cast as absentee
votes.

A recent ballot measure of great concern to environmentally-conscious
citizens was Marin County's Novato Sanitary District "Measure F",
which won by just 179 votes in June 2010. Measure F was thumped at
the polls, but absentee votes flipped it to a win.

Marin County citizens obtained public records including the Diebold
GEMS Microsoft Access databases. Using these databases, we can shed
more light on what happened. The results of this inquiry raise
questions about the integrity of the Measure F election process.

Detailed images showing new absentee vote analysis methodology:





VEOLIA

"Measure F" concerns a controversial French company trying to to land
a water contract in Novato California. The locals were up in arms
about it, citing a dubious corporate reputation and a heavy-handed
company financial investment in the election:
http://newsblaze.com/story/20100603073032zzzz.nb/topstory.html

"In what is probably one of the more egregious examples in the Bay
Area of a big corporation buying an election, Veolia Water has
dumped, according to election officials, $140,000 into the Yes on
Measure F campaign," a local news article writes. And judging from
the smackdown Measure F took at the polls, the locals weren't too
crazy about Veolia. Or were they?

THE VOTE FLIPS

On Election Night June 8, Measure F was announced to be winning by a
hair on absentee ballots. Polling place votes were s-l-o-w coming in,
with not a single precinct uploaded until 10:28 p.m., long after most
election watchers went home. The precincts reversed that absentee
trend, but later, as more absentee ballots were counted, the trend
flipped again. When the election was finalized on June 25, Measure F
and Veolia Water won by 179 votes.

WHAT THE GEMS DATABASE SHOWS

The Diebold GEMS central tabulator uses a Microsoft Access database
to accumulate and calculate vote tallies. This database contains a
number of tables, and within these tables you will find detailed vote
results for each absentee batch, broken out precinct by precinct.

I examined the Marin County vote tables and here's what I found:

1. Measure F was losing on the absentee vote -- citizens were
defeating it, though it was a close race. Marin County began scanning
absentee ballots on May 28 for the June 8 election. It had scanned 67
batches by 3 p.m. Election Day. The "NO" votes were winning.

2. At 3 p.m. Election Day, just hours before the first results report
was issued, Measure F reversed its trend. In just three and a half
hours, more than a week of "NO" votes turned to enough "YES" votes to
announce that Measure F was winning -- by a close margin -- on its
absentee votes.

3. The locals waited. And waited. And waited. Polling place results
just did not come in. They were told that a police car carrying the
memory cards broke down enroute to the election center. (Not true.)
They were told that the poll workers dropped off materials late, but
when they asked to see the forms showing drop-off times, they were
told no one wrote down the time. Finally, at 10:30 p.m., those pesky
poll votes filled with resounding NO votes were reported.

4. At end of Election Night, the NO votes had it. All that remained
were the late absentee votes.

5. The GEMS data reveals that during the scanning of these
after-election absentee ballots, batches kept going missing, usually
followed by a drop in NO votes and a reversal of fortune for the YES
votes. On June 14, batch after batch disappeared from the record,
reappearing (one assumes) later on with a preponderence of YES votes.

June 14 began with Measure F losing. It ended with a Measure F
winning margin that held to the final tally of 179 YES, Measure F
passed.

WHAT DO THE MISSING BATCHES MEAN?

Actually, the GEMS database reveals that two kinds of disappearing
vote batches occurred. The first, a set of three precincts with
polling place votes uploaded on June 8, Election Night, disappeared
and went poof around quitting time June 23. They reappeared June 25
with new memory cards, changed by onesies and twosies but with no
significant new numbers.

The second missing batches were several sequentially numbered
absentee batches, which went missing in clumps on June 14, the same
day Measure F switched from NO to YES.

ANSWER TO FIRST MISSING BATCH QUESTION MAKES SENSE. ANSWER TO SECOND
MISSING BATCH ISSUE DOES NOT.

I called Marin County Elections and spoke with Melvin Briones. The
missing polling place votes, he explained, were due to the California
requirement to hand count a small percentage of precincts. When
discrepancies were found in the hand counts in these precincts, they
had to be rescanned with new memory cards. This jives with what we
know to be true: Optical scan machines don't always interpret marks
on the ballot the same way a human eye does. Discrepancies of
one-half to 1 percent are common. These will show up in hand counted
batches.

And then we get to the explanation for the missing absentee batches.
Briones explained that the batches are scanned in sets of 100 or 200,
and he said that when the machine doesn't report the ballot number
correctly, the batch is erased and re-run.

Now here's why this explanation has me confused: The batches come in
on trays containing varying numbers of ballots. The ballots are not
pre-counted on these trays. The batches may average 100 to 200 each,
but in fact, according to the GEMS databases, the actual numbers are
somewhat random: 63, 163, 61, 88, 106, 46, 47, 137, 199, 210, 137,
177, to quote actual batch sizes shown in the GEMS record.

Now, since they aren't hand counting all these varied batch sizes,
how would they know if the machine counted the wrong number of
ballots? Do they only pull a batch if the machine spits out a number
that is purely ridiculous? Why then would we believe the machine's
count on batches that are wrong but not ridiculously so?

And if the machines were spitting out wrong numbers of ballots, but
only sometimes, even if the Marin County elections staff had a 100%
accurate ouija board to divine that ballot numbers were correct,
wouldn't this occasional wrong counting pose a concern for the
overall accuracy of the count?

I don't understand.

I asked Melvin why disappearing absentee batches clumped up on June
14, and he said he'd have to check the log. That's good, then, they
log the problem batches. But when I asked Melvin if they write down
the reason they abort the batch on this log, he said probably not.
But if they don't write down the reason, why would checking the log
tell Melvin anything about why a bunch of missing batches clumped up
on June 14?

WHAT WE DO KNOW - AND THE NUMBERS JUST DON'T WORK ON THIS

Concerned Marin County citizens requested a hand recount. The number
of votes in the recount exactly, precisely matched the official Marin
County result.

Why is this exact match something that just wouldn't happen? Well,
remember that according to Marin County's own manual audit, three
polling places showed discrepant counts and had to be rescanned using
new memory cards. And of course, there are all those absentee
scanners magically reporting the wrong number of ballots, causing
ballot scanning abortions.

There were over 15,000 Measure F votes, two-thirds of them absentee.
Do you mean to tell me that EVERY SINGLE ONE of 10,037 ballots was
read exactly the same by the machine and the human eye? Normal rates
would show from 50-150 discrepancies. An exact match in Marin County?
Didn't happen. Not without some help.

NO OTHER RACE SHOWED A DOUBLE TREND SHIFT LIKE MEASURE F

I pulled every race on the ballot that was even slightly competitive,
and ran the same absentee analysis. None showed the odd double-flip
pattern seen with Measure F.

WHAT'S "NEW" ABOUT THIS ANALYSIS?

We haven't had much opportunity to examine the databases, but these
are consistently being released now, following several court cases
ordering their release. The data, of course, belongs to the public,
not to the vendor.

The databases contain information that is much more detailed than
that contained on results reports. Absentee votes, and early votes,
flow into the system in mixed batches; that is, each batch has
multiple precincts in it.

The databases, however, parse out these batches and assign a
timestamp to each batch as well, allowing a precise analysis of vote
flow. Even though Election Day wasn't until June 8, using the
database you can see vote results as of May 28, June 1, and each day
votes were scanned.

We can separate out the inflowing votes by time, precinct, race, and
ballot choice. By doing this, it becomes clear that Measure F was NOT
winning its absentee votes before Election Day, and hit a rather
dramatic trend shift just a few hours before the first results report.

By doing this, we can see exactly when batches went missing, were
aborted, whatever -- and we can compare these missing batch events
with trend shifts, to see that most often when an absentee batch went
missing in Marin, it was followed almost immediately by an upshift in
the YES votes.

WHAT TO DO ABOUT THIS

Ditching the absentee vote craze for a return to need-only absentee
voting is a good idea.

If you are in a location with lots of absentee voting -- heads up
especially for Washington state, Oregon, Colorado, California,
Florida, and Ohio -- and if the election looks like a stinker,
immediately request the databases.

With the Diebold GEMS system, the files are stored with the file
extension "gbf" -- those are passworded files that you will not be
able to open. Request both the original gbf and the mdb (MS Access)
files.

You can find out which voting system your county uses by going to
verifiedvoting.org or by looking at the state and county section of
the http://www.blackboxvoting.org Web site. Different voting
manufacturers use different database structures, but the detailed
information referenced above is contained in all the databases. It is
your right to demand copies of the full databases in non-proprietary
format.

If you have experience with databases, you should be able to sort out
the data tables to identify precincts, races, candidates, vote types
(ie absentee, polling place, early), upload times and votes. You can
then export the information to sortable formats and perform
calculations and look at graphs.

Using these kinds of absentee vote diagnostics, you may be able to
identify exactly when the vote count got kinky. It's a start.

BUT THIS ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH

The public has a right to be able to see and authenticate each
essential part of a public election, without need for special
expertise.

Requiring citizens to obtain complicated databases, with skills in
Microsoft Access, SQL Server, SQLite, and other database forms just
to get a glimmer of a clue what went on in a public election is not
acceptable. You can't run a democracy this way.

Absentee voting conceals who voted, conceals the chain of custody,
and conceals the count. Diagnostics like these are interesting,
though excruciating to perform. They may come in handy this November
in controversial absentee-heavy races.

But we need to remember to ask for what we really want, and it ain't
this. No one should have to sift through a wheelbarrow of obscure
data tables for a smattering of circumstantial evidence as to what
really happened in an election.

What we really want is to restore the public ability to see and
authenticate each essential step in the election, without need for
special expertise.

PERMISSION TO REPRINT AND/OR EXCERPT GRANTED, WITH LINK TO
http://www.blackboxvoting.org

[drm604]

56. LaPera, this post deserves it's own thread.

Please post it again as a new thread. It may not get the attention it deserves in the middle of this thread.

[babsbunny]

15. Here are some TRUE Americans!!!!!

Love Ya!

[spanone]

17. k&r

[Kurovski]

19. Kick. (nt)

[tomp]

20. thank you and good luck! only 73 recs?

this is what is wrong with du. people don't recognize important posts.

[herbm]

27. count again!

[herbm]

21. Did you guys genuinely serve Rove? Seriously require his attorneys to go in front of a judge to show

he shouldn't go into discovery and testify serve him papers??????????

[trayfoot]

25. My question also!

If true, why haven't we heard about this on the news?????? Even Keith or Rachel or Ed or Tweety??????

[byronius]

22. Justice. Wheels. Grinding. Slow.

Good work.

[harmonicon]

23. bold (nt)

[Ellipsis]

26. Cool...

King-Lincoln-Bronzeville... wondered what happened with that case.

[herbm]

28. BTW thank you for the freepress site.

[Kurovski]

29. Kick(nt)

[jtrockville]

30. What's the penalty for ignoring a subpoena?

A strongly worded letter?

[sabrina 1]

51. Did Rove ever answer Congress' subpoenas? What happened

with that? Did all these hearings stop as soon as Democrats gained the WH?

[McCamy Taylor]

31. Dudes, don't celebrate yet. The GOP House will hold "hearings" in which they grant immunity

to everyone who testifies the way they want them to testify. All the criminals will then be on record telling the story the way that Rove wants it told, which will crush the civil suit. This is what Congress did to cover up Waco.

[bluesmail]

32. Quadruple K&R from me. Oh man, if only. eom

[Guilded Lilly]

33. Buckeye here who saw, first hand, the corruption

at the polls.

Diebold headquarters were fifteen minutes away from my house. We have known about the *unprovable* for many, many years.

One of these lawsuits might just *stick* and send these wretched men to prison. Bring them ON.!

[bertman]

34. EXCELLENT. Keep up the good work, GreenTea. REC. nt

[Kurovski]

35. Kick. (nt)

[The Wizard]

36. The scumbag Rove

belongs on the end of a rope for treason.

[defendandprotect]

37. Holder is busy getting ready to chase down Medical Marijuana users in CA ...!!

[Name removed]

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[defendandprotect]

42. hmmmm.......

That's quite a question ....

I'm not arguing for anything but Obama's being pro-corporate and that coming

about because of heavy corporate sponsorship of his campaign.

But I will say that too many citizens don't understand the complete corruption

of LBJ and Nixon, just to name two.

LBJ allegedly was taking envelopes of cash when he was in the White House!

Nixon -- if you've read All the President's Men or seen the movie ....

suitcases full of cash. Nixon always had a slush fund available to him above

his Congressional salary -- that was the deal he made with Prescott Bush and

GOP backers! Something like $50,000 over his Congressional salary every year!


Where do they keep the money .... ?

Well, certainly secret Swiss Bank accounts are a threat to democracy --

Long ago I heard a rumor -- via a DC journalist -- that some retired CIA agents

took it upon themselves to look into some of these accounts -- and finding

accounts linked back to Congressional members, they presented the evidence to

the offending Congress member -- in a sense demanding resignation.

Don't know how true that might be -- presume only a handful.

If it was drug money, certainly higher powers had an interest in keeping any

honest investigation of it at bay -- including CIA snoopers!


:)

[Jefferson23]

38. OH YEA!!!!!!!!! K&R

:kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick:

:toast:

[RoccoR5955]

39. I would so much want to see Rove in a frog march.

Even more, I would love to see him do some hard time in the crowbar hotel.

[shanti]

41. yes, frogmarch his ass!

i would pay to see it!

[cascadiance]

46. +1000000! That's another thing I want to imagine and visualize!

[RoccoR5955]

55. RIGHT ON!!!!! n/t

[icnorth]

66. Seen pictured here being delivered

to Sheriff Joe Arpaio for a fitting in pink bloomers.

[Ellipsis]

43. KICK!

[jotsy]

44. He's been summoned before;

but his buddy isn't in the big house now. It better damn well make a difference. The print of this sleaze bucket's methods is now a staple of practice in Washington on all sides of the political fence. Until he is brought down for the crook he is, the way he works will continue to be emulated and further taint the process of governance.

[cartach]

47. What makes anyone think -

that there is any possibility at all that Rove or anyone else from the Bush administration will ever be held accountable? While I applaud the efforts of the poster and his associates for what they are trying to do I think they are wasting their time. As for any progress on this front since the Democratic party has been in power that is a dead issue. If the Republicans make significant inroads it will be because of a repeat of 2004 and all of this will be history. There may be only a couple of options left for democracy minded people and they don't involve the ballot box unfortunately.

[DFab420]

50. They do involve the ballot box

That phrasing is very un-necessary at the moment and does nothing but level us with those who tout Sharon Angle's 2nd amendment ridiculousness.

Anything other then votes and the voice of the people would bring untold tragedy to this country. Civil war is not something to toss around just because of a loss in a midterm election...

[LaPera]

48. Kick!

[dchill]

49. K & R

[zehnkatzen]

52. k/r, n/t, and couldn't have happened to a nicer guy!

[LawnKorn]

53. I think Rove is a flight risk and should be placed in jail without bond

Karl Rove should be jailed without bond until this matter is resolved, however long it takes.

[indimuse]

KNR! n/t

[indimuse]

KNR! n/t

[indimuse]

54. KNR! n/t

[ckimmy57]

57. Okaaayyy

So why do we think this one will be any different from all the subpoena's he was served with before....which be blatantly ignored. Rove thinks he's above the law because....well, he's gotten away with all the illegal, outrageous, downright nasty bullshit that he has pulled so far. What makes us think this will be any different? I sure don't!:mad:

[drm604]

58. He probably won't be able to avoid the subpoena this time,

but his testimony will likely be an epic example of forgetfulness. I wish I could believe otherwise.

Is there anything that can be done regarding someone who repeatedly uses the "I don't recall" tactic?

[txlibdem]

59. Come on. Turd blossom isn't going to tell the truth after all these years of lies

I congratulate the State of Ohio on being the only state with the balls to bring even one of the Bush/Cheney criminals in for their day in court. I just don't think any appeals to whatever microgram of humanity that still exists in that man will do any good.

[grantcart]

60. without pictures this thread is STILL PRETTY FUCKING GREAT

[Javaman]

61. Meh, rovers turd will just plead the 5th and walk away...

the Constitutions still applies to the wealthy and the politically connected. The rest of us? Not so much.

While I applaud SoS of Ohio, I honestly don't see a single thing coming out of this other than the right wing using this as some sort of way to gin up support from their mouth breathing puppets.

[orbitalman]

62. K & R x 1000

[KoKo]

63. K&R... Stuff is starting in NC...Voter Intimidation. Sad to see this

back when we activists in NC (during Dean's DNC Chairmanship) had managed to work so hard for voter reform and integrity of the ballot at the polling places.

Thanks for the update on Ohio and glad that Arneback is still trying.

[driver8]

64. I hate that piece of shit KKKarl Rove...

I wouldn't piss on him if he was on fire.

[Blue Owl]

65. It's about GODDAMNED TIME

:mad:

Lock this fuck up once and for all -- he's public enemy #1 to democracy.

[emulatorloo]

67. I'm guessing Liberal Democrat Robert Luskin will save his sorry ass again.

very glad to hear they are pursuing this lawsuit.

[denpat1]

69. he should see the contempt on my face

[texastoast]

70. K&R

Woot! Go!

[Kolesar]

71. What questions would be asked of Rove?

The ballots were destroyed after the election, ok. But how does *anybody* get Rove to admit that ballots were tampered with? Or is tampering the question?

There surely was chicanery as heinous Sec of State Kenneth Blackwell "messed with" the rules for voter registration and provisional ballots. And Blackwell *held up* certifying the election so that there was not time for a challenge before the US Senate confirmed the election. But what do we ask of Rove?

[BrklynLiberal]

72. Cannot wait until this is reality:

[Uncle Joe]

73. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, GreenTea.

[rhett o rick]

76. R&K

[deaniac21]

78. Indicted in 24 business hours!