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Wed Oct-27-10 03:27 PM
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If they get to call it "ObamaCare", then why haven't we called the economic disaster |
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The Bush Recession?
I've wondered why so often we allow the Republicans to define things and to put Democrats on the defensive.
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Wed Oct-27-10 03:28 PM
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Can't do much about it when the media is run by corporations.
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Wed Oct-27-10 03:37 PM
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8. Really? Is it the media when Democratic reps let it go unchallenged? |
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I haven't really heard any Democrats publicly challenge the "ObamaCare" tag.
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Wed Oct-27-10 04:01 PM
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13. The Dems have been too busy reaching across the aisle |
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Wed Oct-27-10 03:30 PM
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2. because whatever we put out there the media will not |
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repeat it nor run with it no matter how sane or correct. When the republicans put lies out there they get a lot of media play until they are repeated so much that everyone believes the lies.
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Wed Oct-27-10 03:31 PM
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3. on the surface people hate negative campaigns, but beneath the surface they can't decide without it |
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Wed Oct-27-10 03:33 PM
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4. Scott McAdams makes the point |
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that with all the Republican amendments to the bill and all the compromising that was done to try to get them to vote for it, it should more accurately be called Mitch McConnellcare.
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Wed Oct-27-10 03:33 PM
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5. simple - we are a (unspoken) corporatocracy |
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corporations include the media and they control the message
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Wed Oct-27-10 03:36 PM
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6. It's the famous Bush Legacy. |
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They were ballyhooing Smirky's legacy just before he left office in disgrace.
Well, here we are.
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Wed Oct-27-10 03:37 PM
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7. Because FOX News is the propaganda arm of the Republican Party |
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Geroge Lakoff has a more intellectual take on framing, but Frank Luntz knows what will sell to his target audience. This is a problem.
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Wed Oct-27-10 03:42 PM
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Actually, once people find out the advantages they receive from this weak imitation of a health coverage system, ObamaCare may come to be a widely-respected term.
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Wed Oct-27-10 03:43 PM
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10. OK, I just don't buy this "the media won't allow it" answer to this. |
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That god don't hunt. Nobody is stopping the Democratic politicians and operatives from speaking out and I don't think anyone is silencing KO, Rachael, or Ed or any of the others that I always read here that are on fire. Who is stopping any of these from challenging tags like "ObamaCare" and other ways that Republicans are allowed to define things.
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Wed Oct-27-10 03:46 PM
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11. I call the Bush terms The Disaster Years. |
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Wed Oct-27-10 03:49 PM
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12. Calling the recession the "Bush Recession" is at least as accurate as "ObamaCare". |
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After all, it started under Bush and was largely a result of his policies.
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Wed Oct-27-10 06:54 PM
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21. I like "BushCrash" or "BushWreck" as counterpoint to Obamacare. nt |
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Wed Oct-27-10 04:05 PM
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14. The media is why. Fox: "Obamacare" MSNBC: "What repubicans call Obamacare" Either way . . . . . |
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. . . . the term gets pushed.
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Wed Oct-27-10 04:21 PM
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15. They plant disgrace and belittling by their terminology such as |
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"the Pelosi-this or that" or the "Obama-Reed this or that". It is all a face slam to not use their titles. It is a disgrace and disrespectful. They should be called on it.
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Wed Oct-27-10 04:26 PM
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16. Where I live they slam my Democratic rep with the Pelosi-Kind tag |
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like it's some kind of dirty word.
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Wed Oct-27-10 06:52 PM
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19. Sad. Repugs from the beginning, never used proper titles. |
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Wed Oct-27-10 04:30 PM
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17. the "Obamacare" slur is just an updated version of the "Hillarycare" one. They're so lazy |
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they're recycling talking points. Look on the bright side at least republicans are recycling.
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Wed Oct-27-10 04:55 PM
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18. Or how about the BUSH-WRECK!! nt |
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Wed Oct-27-10 06:54 PM
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20. cause the media really gets to decide these things..they are not liberal |
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Wed Oct-27-10 06:59 PM
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22. Because we don't do "impolite" |
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no matter what the provocation.
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Wed Oct-27-10 07:00 PM
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23. Because we don't do "impolite" |
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no matter what the provocation.
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Wed Oct-27-10 07:09 PM
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24. I remember Jon Stewart challenging it once |
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