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Wed Oct-27-10 05:20 PM
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If Reid loses I hope Dems stop electing Senators from Red/Purple states to lead the party. |
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The Republicans elect Senate leaders from very red states. They elect Congressional leaders from red districts. Stop trying to reach across the aisle! Elect someone from a dark blue state. This just gives the Reich Wing incentive to GOTV against Dem leaders.
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Wed Oct-27-10 05:22 PM
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Wed Oct-27-10 05:24 PM
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2. Reid was a very poor choice for Senate leader even if he came from the Bluest state. |
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He's a incredibly weak leader, a poor tactician, and horrible at keeping members of his party in line.
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Wed Oct-27-10 05:25 PM
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3. He was better than Daschle...n/t |
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Wed Oct-27-10 05:28 PM
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5. That's like saying a human fart smells better than a dog fart. |
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Thu Oct-28-10 05:40 PM
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Wed Oct-27-10 11:35 PM
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20. I rate Daschle lower than the lowest Republican. May he rot in hell. nm |
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Wed Oct-27-10 05:25 PM
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4. It will be Chuck Schumer from NY |
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Which is a dark blue state.
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Wed Oct-27-10 05:29 PM
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Wed Oct-27-10 10:45 PM
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15. Most likely it will be Schumer |
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and he is good at getting things done.
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Thu Oct-28-10 01:00 AM
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27. Schumer is no less combative or divisive than Boxer. |
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Edited on Thu Oct-28-10 01:01 AM by Warren DeMontague
(Both would make a fine pick, IMHO.)
So short of some inherent geographical interest, I'm not really sure what the knee-jerk reaction was, there, on your part.
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Thu Oct-28-10 07:47 AM
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29. I had no knee jerk reaction |
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I'm just stating what I've read about the race for leader.
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Thu Oct-28-10 02:14 PM
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38. Yep. He is good at undermining fellow Democrats at every turn too |
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Edited on Thu Oct-28-10 02:16 PM by politicasista
Just sayin'.
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Thu Oct-28-10 03:06 PM
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44. Exactly, not a good choice. He was my Senator until I moved |
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He's arrogant, (met him before he was a Senator through my summer job) and totally unresponsive to constituents. I wouldn't want him for a neighbor let alone in a powerful position like that. Too much ego.
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Thu Oct-28-10 04:03 PM
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Agree, too much ego and backstabbing.
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Thu Oct-28-10 08:24 AM
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30. One of my senators and I love him |
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I still want it to be Boxer. It's not only time for someone in a blue-er than blue state, it's time for woman.
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Thu Oct-28-10 11:44 AM
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31. Boxer is not even in contention |
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It is between Durbin and Schumer with the edge given to Schumer. People here need to get out the bubble and actually read about what is going on.
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Thu Oct-28-10 12:05 PM
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Your crack about the bubble is very off base. There currently is no race for leadership, Reid is still leader and there is no reason not to consider Boxer.
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Thu Oct-28-10 01:38 PM
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34. You just proved that you're in the bubble |
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There have been numerous stories for months about who will succeed Reid if he loses and Boxer's name has never been mentioned.
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Thu Oct-28-10 02:51 PM
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39. I've heard all the speculation |
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And that's all it is - speculation. Nothing concrete and certainly nothing etched in stone.
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Thu Oct-28-10 12:26 PM
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33. Get out of the bubble? Manhattan is one giant friggin' Bubble. |
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There are 34 Million Californians. 10% of the US Population. If Boxer isn't in contention, she should be.
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Thu Oct-28-10 01:39 PM
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That is reality whether you like it or not.
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Thu Oct-28-10 02:04 PM
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37. According to your expert testimony. |
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In fact, when I googled "Final Authority on Any Subject", I got "Some Dude On The Internet".
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Thu Oct-28-10 03:00 PM
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41. Try googling Barbara Boxer for Senate Majority leader |
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and actually read the hits you get.
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Thu Oct-28-10 03:03 PM
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43. It's ALL speculation at this point. |
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No matter what anyone says.
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Thu Oct-28-10 03:12 PM
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45. But there is speculation based on fact and |
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speculation based on pure fanstasy. Boxer as Majority leader is pure fanstasy.
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Thu Oct-28-10 03:02 PM
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That would be a disaster.
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Thu Oct-28-10 03:13 PM
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46. Then if read loses you're in for a big disappointment. nt |
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Thu Oct-28-10 05:15 PM
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49. Being disappointed in what Democrats do is nothing new. |
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I still hope they get some sense and do not consider Schumer for that position.
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Thu Oct-28-10 05:38 PM
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Durbin may get it but the smart money is on Schumer. Of course the whole thing is moot if Reid is re-elected.
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Thu Oct-28-10 07:04 PM
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53. The 'money' is on Schumer for sure, but I wouldn't call it smart money |
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I would definitely prefer Durbin or anyone, for that matter. Money should not be what determines these things, but sadly it is.
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Wed Oct-27-10 05:30 PM
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7. It's more of this failed "logic" that doesn't work. We need to take a page from the GOP and stand up |
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strong. Take a side.
Put Barbara Boxer in charge.
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Wed Oct-27-10 06:54 PM
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9. Boxer would be a great Senate leader |
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Not that I'm prejudiced or anything. ;)
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Thu Oct-28-10 12:15 AM
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Wed Oct-27-10 10:45 PM
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16. Yeah, that really worked for Russ Feingold. nt |
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Thu Oct-28-10 12:59 AM
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26. Depends on the State. I'm not writing Feingold off, yet, anyway. |
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Nevertheless, we can pick our Senate LEADERSHIP from wherever we want, and since our party is heavily represented in populous, urban and mostly coastal liberal states, that would be a good place to start.
The GOP picks its leaders from the worst sorts of red state backwaters (Jesse Helms as chair of the Senate Foreign Relations Cmte?) and no one bats so much as an eye. We've ran through some jaw-droppingly ineffective Majority and Minority leaders, like Daschle and Reid- it's time to try something else.
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Thu Oct-28-10 01:41 PM
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36. That is an evasion. Feingold is toast. |
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So being uncompromising is not a formula for success at the ballot box.
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Thu Oct-28-10 07:43 PM
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54. She's too much of a Democrat. (NT) |
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Wed Oct-27-10 05:34 PM
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Mitch McConnell would have to go change his shorts.
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Wed Oct-27-10 06:55 PM
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But not enough seniority.
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Wed Oct-27-10 07:04 PM
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11. Durbin has seniority and has a pretty safe seat. They should vote for him as majority leader. |
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If not Durbin, then I'd vote for Boxer.
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Wed Oct-27-10 07:05 PM
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12. OK, I'm seriously trying to sort out the OP |
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I totally understand wanting to elect members in line with the party platform.
But not electing reps and senators from red/purple states?
That's not strengthening your position that's conceding entire swathes of the country.
Why not ensuring those candidates put forth in red/purple states will in fact align with the party if elected then make sure they get elected?
Maybe the OP is just clumisly stated and I'm picking nits.
Sorry, if I have misunderstood.
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Wed Oct-27-10 09:57 PM
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13. I think you might have missed it. |
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It's not about electing senators from Red/Purple states. It's about selecting our Senate Leader from a Red/Purple state.
The thinking being that our recent Senate leaders have been handicapped as leaders by their weak positions at home.
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Wed Oct-27-10 11:27 PM
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17. Exactly! We need someone that can be fearless. |
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Wed Oct-27-10 09:57 PM
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14. I'd like to nominate Sen. John Kerry (D-MA). n/t |
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Wed Oct-27-10 11:30 PM
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18. Agree. The leaders will always be targeted and should be in safer seats. |
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Reid is my Senator and I know if he was not Senate Majority Leader, he would not be in a tight race with a nut job.
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Wed Oct-27-10 11:34 PM
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19. Do you ever wonder why Reid was choosen? nm |
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Wed Oct-27-10 11:39 PM
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21. I kept hearing how great a fighter he was... |
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I didn't notice the stifled giggles as they said that.
:banghead:
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Thu Oct-28-10 12:36 AM
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and I can honestly say that he's a really great guy.
Very intelligent. Totally on our side. Really gets it.
But something happens in D.C.
We Democrats are pre-disposed towards peace and working together. And few Democrats realize that while we believe that "crossing the aisle" is good for the country, our opponents believe that our total annihilation is good for the country.
Can we please, for the love of god, put our heels in the dirt and say, "No!"
Sen. Reid's problem comes, like Daschle's, from not being secure in his seat...it is not that he's ignorant...he just thinks, most sincerely, that "working together" is best for the country.
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Thu Oct-28-10 03:18 PM
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47. My point is that there is something very wrong when the Demo Senators pick weaklings like |
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Daschle and Reid. It is not an accident.
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28. Who better to speak for a pro-choice party concentrated in coastal blue states |
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than an anti-choicer from Nevada?
Makes perfect sense to me. :crazy:
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Wed Oct-27-10 11:50 PM
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22. Yes, if we elect vulnerable officials |
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we set ourselves up for a state of perpetual compromise (with bullies). Not a good position to be in, ever.
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23. In your opinion what are the odds that |
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