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Orlandodem Donating Member (859 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 05:20 PM
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If Reid loses I hope Dems stop electing Senators from Red/Purple states to lead the party.
The Republicans elect Senate leaders from very red states. They elect Congressional leaders from red districts. Stop trying to reach across the aisle! Elect someone from a dark blue state. This just gives the Reich Wing incentive to GOTV against Dem leaders.
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 05:22 PM
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1. I'll drink to that!
:toast:
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 05:24 PM
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2. Reid was a very poor choice for Senate leader even if he came from the Bluest state.
He's a incredibly weak leader, a poor tactician, and horrible at keeping members of his party in line.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 05:25 PM
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3. He was better than Daschle...n/t
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 05:28 PM
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5. That's like saying a human fart smells better than a dog fart.
They're both farts.
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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 05:40 PM
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51. !
:spray:
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 11:35 PM
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20. I rate Daschle lower than the lowest Republican. May he rot in hell. nm
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JamesA1102 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 05:25 PM
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4. It will be Chuck Schumer from NY
Which is a dark blue state.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 05:29 PM
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6. No!! Not him. Please.
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JamesA1102 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 10:45 PM
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15. Most likely it will be Schumer
and he is good at getting things done.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 01:00 AM
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27. Schumer is no less combative or divisive than Boxer.
Edited on Thu Oct-28-10 01:01 AM by Warren DeMontague
(Both would make a fine pick, IMHO.)

So short of some inherent geographical interest, I'm not really sure what the knee-jerk reaction was, there, on your part.
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JamesA1102 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 07:47 AM
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29. I had no knee jerk reaction
I'm just stating what I've read about the race for leader.
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 02:14 PM
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38. Yep. He is good at undermining fellow Democrats at every turn too
Edited on Thu Oct-28-10 02:16 PM by politicasista
Just sayin'.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 03:06 PM
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44. Exactly, not a good choice. He was my Senator until I moved
He's arrogant, (met him before he was a Senator through my summer job) and totally unresponsive to constituents. I wouldn't want him for a neighbor let alone in a powerful position like that. Too much ego.

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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 04:03 PM
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48. Yikes!
Agree, too much ego and backstabbing.
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 08:24 AM
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30. One of my senators and I love him
I still want it to be Boxer. It's not only time for someone in a blue-er than blue state, it's time for woman.
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JamesA1102 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 11:44 AM
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31. Boxer is not even in contention
It is between Durbin and Schumer with the edge given to Schumer. People here need to get out the bubble and actually read about what is going on.
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 12:05 PM
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32. Where is the ballot?
Your crack about the bubble is very off base. There currently is no race for leadership, Reid is still leader and there is no reason not to consider Boxer.
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JamesA1102 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 01:38 PM
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34. You just proved that you're in the bubble
There have been numerous stories for months about who will succeed Reid if he loses and Boxer's name has never been mentioned.
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 02:51 PM
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39. I've heard all the speculation
And that's all it is - speculation. Nothing concrete and certainly nothing etched in stone.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 12:26 PM
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33. Get out of the bubble? Manhattan is one giant friggin' Bubble.
There are 34 Million Californians. 10% of the US Population. If Boxer isn't in contention, she should be.
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JamesA1102 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 01:39 PM
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35. But she's not
That is reality whether you like it or not.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 02:04 PM
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37. According to your expert testimony.
In fact, when I googled "Final Authority on Any Subject", I got "Some Dude On The Internet".
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JamesA1102 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 03:00 PM
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41. Try googling Barbara Boxer for Senate Majority leader
and actually read the hits you get.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 03:03 PM
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43. It's ALL speculation at this point.
No matter what anyone says.
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JamesA1102 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 03:12 PM
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45. But there is speculation based on fact and
speculation based on pure fanstasy. Boxer as Majority leader is pure fanstasy.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 03:02 PM
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42. I really hope not!
That would be a disaster.
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JamesA1102 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 03:13 PM
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46. Then if read loses you're in for a big disappointment. nt
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 05:15 PM
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49. Being disappointed in what Democrats do is nothing new.
I still hope they get some sense and do not consider Schumer for that position.
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JamesA1102 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 05:38 PM
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50. Not going to happen.
Durbin may get it but the smart money is on Schumer. Of course the whole thing is moot if Reid is re-elected.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 07:04 PM
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53. The 'money' is on Schumer for sure, but I wouldn't call it smart money
I would definitely prefer Durbin or anyone, for that matter. Money should not be what determines these things, but sadly it is.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 05:30 PM
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7. It's more of this failed "logic" that doesn't work. We need to take a page from the GOP and stand up
strong. Take a side.

Put Barbara Boxer in charge.
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NV Whino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 06:54 PM
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9. Boxer would be a great Senate leader
Not that I'm prejudiced or anything. ;)
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FreeState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 12:15 AM
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24. +1
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JamesA1102 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 10:45 PM
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16. Yeah, that really worked for Russ Feingold. nt
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 12:59 AM
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26. Depends on the State. I'm not writing Feingold off, yet, anyway.
Nevertheless, we can pick our Senate LEADERSHIP from wherever we want, and since our party is heavily represented in populous, urban and mostly coastal liberal states, that would be a good place to start.

The GOP picks its leaders from the worst sorts of red state backwaters (Jesse Helms as chair of the Senate Foreign Relations Cmte?) and no one bats so much as an eye. We've ran through some jaw-droppingly ineffective Majority and Minority leaders, like Daschle and Reid- it's time to try something else.
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JamesA1102 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 01:41 PM
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36. That is an evasion. Feingold is toast.
So being uncompromising is not a formula for success at the ballot box.
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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 05:40 PM
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52. Hell yes.
:thumbsup:
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 07:43 PM
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54. She's too much of a Democrat. (NT)
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pscot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 05:34 PM
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8. How about Al Franken?
Mitch McConnell would have to go change his shorts.
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NV Whino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 06:55 PM
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10. I would love it
But not enough seniority.
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 07:04 PM
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11. Durbin has seniority and has a pretty safe seat. They should vote for him as majority leader.
If not Durbin, then I'd vote for Boxer.
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Nuclear Unicorn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 07:05 PM
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12. OK, I'm seriously trying to sort out the OP
I totally understand wanting to elect members in line with the party platform.

But not electing reps and senators from red/purple states?

That's not strengthening your position that's conceding entire swathes of the country.

Why not ensuring those candidates put forth in red/purple states will in fact align with the party if elected then make sure they get elected?

Maybe the OP is just clumisly stated and I'm picking nits.

Sorry, if I have misunderstood.
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 09:57 PM
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13. I think you might have missed it.
It's not about electing senators from Red/Purple states. It's about selecting our Senate Leader from a Red/Purple state.

The thinking being that our recent Senate leaders have been handicapped as leaders by their weak positions at home.

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EmeraldCityGrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 11:27 PM
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17. Exactly! We need someone that can be fearless.
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 09:57 PM
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14. I'd like to nominate Sen. John Kerry (D-MA). n/t
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 11:30 PM
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18. Agree. The leaders will always be targeted and should be in safer seats.
Reid is my Senator and I know if he was not Senate Majority Leader, he would not be in a tight race with a nut job.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 11:34 PM
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19. Do you ever wonder why Reid was choosen? nm
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KeepItReal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 11:39 PM
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21. I kept hearing how great a fighter he was...
I didn't notice the stifled giggles as they said that.

:banghead:
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 12:36 AM
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25. I met him in 2005
and I can honestly say that he's a really great guy.

Very intelligent. Totally on our side. Really gets it.

But something happens in D.C.

We Democrats are pre-disposed towards peace and working together. And few Democrats realize that while we believe that "crossing the aisle" is good for the country, our opponents believe that our total annihilation is good for the country.

Can we please, for the love of god, put our heels in the dirt and say, "No!"

Sen. Reid's problem comes, like Daschle's, from not being secure in his seat...it is not that he's ignorant...he just thinks, most sincerely, that "working together" is best for the country.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 03:18 PM
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47. My point is that there is something very wrong when the Demo Senators pick weaklings like
Daschle and Reid. It is not an accident.
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 10:07 PM
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55. Cat got your tongue?
So, say what you think.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 01:02 AM
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28. Who better to speak for a pro-choice party concentrated in coastal blue states
than an anti-choicer from Nevada?

Makes perfect sense to me. :crazy:
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 11:50 PM
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22. Yes, if we elect vulnerable officials
we set ourselves up for a state of perpetual compromise (with bullies). Not a good position to be in, ever.
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 12:02 AM
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23. In your opinion what are the odds that
that Reid loses?
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