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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 06:51 PM
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Do you think it started with this?




Bush's Conspiracy to Riot

By Robert Parry
consortiumnews.com
August 5, 2002

EXCERPT...

The Battle of Miami

On Nov. 22, 2000, after learning that the Miami canvassing board was starting an examination of 10,750 disputed ballots that had previously not been counted, Rep. John Sweeney, a New York Republican, called on Republican troops to “shut it down,” according to Down and Dirty. Brendan Quinn, executive director of the New York GOP, told about two dozen Republican operatives to storm the room on the 19th floor where the canvassing board was meeting, Tapper reported.

“Emotional and angry, they immediately make their way outside the larger room in which the tabulating room is contained,” Tapper wrote. “The mass of ‘angry voters’ on the 19th floor swells to maybe 80 people,” including many of the Republican activists from outside Florida.

News cameras captured the chaotic scene outside the canvassing board's offices. The protesters shouted slogans and banged on the doors and walls. The unruly protest prevented official observers and members of the press from reaching the room. Miami-Dade county spokesman Mayco Villafana was pushed and shoved. Security officials feared the confrontation was spinning out of control.

The canvassing board suddenly reversed its decision and canceled the recount. “Until the demonstration stops, nobody can do anything,” said David Leahy, Miami’s supervisor of elections, although the canvassing board members would later insist that they were not intimidated into stopping the recount. (Down and Dirty)

CONTINUED...

http://www.consortiumnews.com/2002/080502a.html



Personally, I think it goes back a ways from 2000.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 06:53 PM
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1. It goes back at least to the point when Republicans started saying...
"The Democrat Party."
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 06:54 PM
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2. I'd be hard pressed to pick a better starting point for it all. n/t
PB
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 06:58 PM
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3. so if they lose this time, should we expect this again?
We've been discussing this all day. I think we're being set up for this same sort of nonsense this time.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 07:03 PM
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5. Sure looks like it.
And it's not like they're super original in their ideas, they use the same old Lee Atwater plays over and over again.

Then again, why should they bother thinking up new ploys, no one ever questions their old ones.
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 07:08 PM
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8. I don't think we'll put up with it this time.
And we know a lot more about the 5 supremes who keep fucking U.S. over than we did then.

We can't afford our previous tolerance regarding these childish games.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 07:02 PM
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4. staged outrage...it's only gotten worse
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 07:04 PM
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6. I think it goes back to 1960 and the myth that the Democratic Party
stole the election by packing the ballot boxes in Illinois.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 07:04 PM
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7. This is the obvious point
Look back at the impeachment... That is the actual marker.

Oh expect the impeachment of one Barack Hussein Obama in the next congress if they take it. That goes to Nixon...elephants want revenge.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 07:10 PM
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9. It started when Karl Rove was born
He's a natural born underhanded lying manipulator of whatever it takes to win tactics.
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felix_numinous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 07:11 PM
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10. This is when the RW started working in the open.
In order to take down these criminals, it has to start with 2000.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 11:07 PM
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11. it's only going to get worse. Bet on it.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 11:09 PM
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12. Everything about the money party is a big fake. n/t
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 11:10 PM
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13.  Yes or it at least took it to a whole new level.
a whole new level, because they got away with it.
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 11:14 PM
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14. Smoky back rooms...
led to your image posted above.

The amazing aspect is though, those in the smoky back room have no conscience.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 11:24 PM
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15. Fascist rally which our now Justice Roberts had a lot to do with evidently .....
Evidently, he was the one giving the legal advice and making a lot of suggestions

-- and is connected to this rally, as well ...

And, btw, a great and timely reminder!!

Everything the right wing does is FAKE -- we all have to remember that!

It's like a Hollywood movie set --

The only way the right wing can rise is via political violence ---

stolen elections, lies --


GOP in 1980's gave start up funding for the Christian Coalition ---

Richard Scaife funded Dobson's organization -- other wealthy right wing Repugs funded Bauer's org.

Current T-baggers are bought and paid for by Koch Bros. and run out of a PR firm --

and everything else they do is just as fake --


When Wm. Buckley died some memos came floating out making clear that the CIA -- which took

money from any right wing sources, including the KKK and John Birchers, etal -- helped finance

the political careers of right wing Congressional members -- Sen. Strom Thurmond and

Rep. Gerald Ford are two mentioned but there were others. Pat Buchan received CIA money.

Radical right wingers -- H. Keith Thompson, for one -- followed other leading radical right

figures in cultivating ties to the Repug Party and gave generously to several Repugs, including

Sen. Jesse Helms, Ollie North, David Duke and Pat Buchanan. "But Nazi Germany remained

Thompson's true passion .... 'I've always given my life to the Third Reich,' he stated proudly."



Of course, computers made 2000 possible in more ways than one --

MSM before the LARGE computers came in during the mid-1960's, was only able to report

ACTUAL vote tallies. The large computers gave them new powers to PREDICT and CALL elections

-- Electoral College Votes -- Winners and Losers -- and name the new president.

What we saw in 2000 was simply a reversal of those new powers!



:)
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 11:25 PM
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16. I believe that moment was a definite historical marker. nt
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 11:26 PM
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17. It didn't start with that but it sure moved forward at warp speed after that. nt
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 11:27 PM
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18. I was so stunned the first time I saw that picture with the identifying names
not that they did it - tho, yeah, it was sort of surprising that Ken Lay flew the operatives down on one of his jets for his fuck buddy Bush.

what was REALLY amazing to me is that the main stream press and media in this nation were SO FUCKING USELESS that they could spend HOURS and HOURS on this story without identifying these people for the entire world to see.

what lame ass worthless pieces of shit who pretend to be journalists.
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 12:09 AM
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19. don't forget the WACL's North network, North mocking democracy in the hearings,
Edited on Thu Oct-28-10 12:11 AM by MisterP
the Volcker Memo, Team B and the think tanks popping up at the same time as the New Right and the Religious Right, and the corporate-adoring, warmongering DLC--plus the pro-Axis trolls who tried to redeem themselves with anticommunism (like Jon Voight's uncle Joseph Kamp and Francis Parker Yockey), Poppy's 9 ex-Nazi campaign workers, and liberal anticommunists that were in the Cold War from the beginning and cheered our crusade against all Islam (for liberal, rationalist, and secular reasons, of course)

(of course you can't forget: you're Octafish)
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 12:12 AM
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20. It started when Ronald Wilson Reagan was allowed to defy his oath of office
with some bullshit acting in front of a grinning and winking Congress.
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SmileyRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 12:15 AM
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21. I think it goes WAY back
I'm thinking back with the first almost humans decided someone had to be leader - and then 2 big guys went at each other to decide who it would be.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 12:18 AM
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22. It didn't start there, but that sure as hell pushed it into overdrive. nt
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 12:36 AM
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23. Brooks Brothers Rioters now work for the Koch Family.
Edited on Thu Oct-28-10 12:36 AM by McCamy Taylor
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 06:27 AM
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24. K & R
:hi:
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jotsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 12:11 PM
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25. Very early yes.
A much more clandestine and collective effort requiring generations of routing and other little necessary tweaks along the way. Likely a plan that hatched in the wake of the failed effort against FDR. A baton passed from basic aristocrats to theological and militant zealots, dangerous to the planet they see themselves ruling.

RECOMMENDED.

Have you written a book I can purchase?
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 01:57 PM
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26. Thanks, jotsy! I'm working on something for the internets...
It will be a free download, my Friend.

Until then, you might enjoy my DU Journal, which links to the great resources provided by you and the other great DUers.

Of course, when it comes to "America's greatest political dynasty," I've got a few favorites:




Crimestoppers! Know your Bush Family Evil Empire


Henry Paulson, Banker to the BFEE

Know your BFEE: Cultkeepers

Know your BFEE: It wasn’t Obama who Looted the Treasury and Banks. It was Bush and his Cronies.

Know your BFEE: John McCain, Dim Knight Errant of the War Party

Know your BFEE: Goldmine Sacked or The Best Way to Rob a Bank Is to Own One

Know your BFEE: Phil Gramm, the Meyer Lansky of the War Party, Set-Up the Biggest Bank Heist Ever.

Know your BFEE: The Corrupt Bastards Club… with Lipstick

Know your BFEE: Olympic Games Show Who’s Best Friends Forever with Authoritarians and Dictators

Know your BFEE: 1984 Death of Outstanding Congressional Staffer Buried Poppy-Moon Relationship

Know your BFEE: Forget Rev. Wright! It’s Bush and His Cronies Who Owe an Apology for Rev. Moon!

Know your BFEE: GW Bush Covers Up His Lying America Into War

Know your BFEE: Bush and His Crooks with Badges Sent an Innocent Man to Jail

Know your BFEE: They Looted Your Nation’s S&Ls for Power and Profit

Know your BFEE: War and Oil are just two longtime Main Lines of Business

Know your BFEE: Bush has Killed a Million Innocent People for Their Oil.

Know your BFEE: Scions of the Military Industrial Complex

Know your BFEE: Spawn of Wall Street and the Third Reich

Know your BFEE: Cheney, Rumsfeld, Ford Covered Up CIA Murder of American Scientist

Know your BFEE: Money Trumps Peace. Always.

Know your BFEE: They kill good soldiers like Col. Ted Westhusing for profit.

Know your BFEE: America’s Ruling Gangster Class

Poppy Bush brought up JFK Assassination and "Conspiracy Theorists" at Ford Funeral

Know your BFEE: Robert Gates did more than keep the doors open at BCCI

Know your BFEE: The Fellowship ‘Preys’ for America

Sink the BFEE: Foley gives us Congress. Condi sends 'em to prison.

Beat the BFEE: Poppy’s CIA warned about terror plots and did not stop them

Know your BFEE: Los Amigos de Bush

Know your BFEE: Neil Bush hangs out with Russian Mafiya Godfather

Know your BFEE: Poppy Bush was in Dallas the day JFK was assassinated.

Know your BFEE: Nazis couldn’t win WWII, so they backed Bushes.

Know your BFEE: At every turn, JFK was opposed by War Party

Know your BFEE: Lies Are the Currency of Their Realm

Know your BFEE: Cheney & Halliburton Sold Iran Nuke Technology

Know your BFEE: The Stench of Moussaoui Permeates the Octopus

Know your BFEE: Moussaoui Must Die for Bush and 'His' Government

Know your BFEE: Alito is just another word for Mussolini

Know your BFEE: Like a NAZI

Know your BFEE: The China-Bush Axis

Know your BFEE: Bush and bin Laden Clans Together in Bed

Know your BFEE: Libby Is the First Big BFEE Turd to Go Down

Know your BFEE: WHIG (White House Iraq Group) made phony case for Iraq War

Know your BFEE: The Secret Government

Know your BFEE: Reinhard Gehlen

Know your BFEE: Poppy Bush Armed Saddam

Know your BFEE: Killer Businessmen who put Power and Profit before Country

Know your BFEE: Nixon Threatened to Nuke Vietnam

Know your BFEE: Corrupt Craftsmen Hoover and Dulles

Know your BFEE: Poppy’s CIA Made Saddam Into the Butcher of Baghdad

Know your BFEE: Hitler’s Bankers Shaped Vietnam War

Know your BFEE: Merchants of Death

Know your BFEE: R. James Woolsey, Turd of War

Know your BFEE: Sneering Dick Cheney, Superturd-Superrich-Supercrook

Know your BFEE: Bush Lied America into War

Know your BFEE: James R Bath – Bush – bin Laden Link

Know your BFEE: War Profiteers

Know your BFEE: Dead Men Tell No Tales

Know your BFEE: Bush and bin Laden Clans Together in Bed

Know your BFEE: Rev. Sun Myung Moon OWNS Poppy Bush

Know your BFEE: Homeland Czar & Petro-Turd Bernie Kerik

Know your BFEE: American Children Used in Radiation Experiments

Know your BFEE: Eugenics and the NAZIs - The California Connection

Know your BFEE: The Barreling Bushes

Know your BFEE: A Crime Line of Treason

Know your BFEE: How Smirko Got Rich

Know your BFEE: George W Bush did "community service" at Project P.U.L.L.

Know your BFEE: Dope Dealers & Money Launderers

Know your BFEE: Vote Suppressor Supreme, the Turd Bill Rehnquist

Know your BFEE: George W Bush Knew 9-11 Was Coming and Did NOTHING!

Know your BFEE: Oliver North, Drug Dealer

Know your BFEE: Pat Robertson Incorporated a Gold Mine with a Terrorist


These aren’t labeled “Know Your BFEE,” but they’re meant in the same spirit:

Poppy Bush Involved in JFK Assassination -- BFEE's Spooked!

Vietnam and Iraq Wars Started by Same People

BFEE Turd Daniel Pipes tied to DANISH CARTOONS

JFK Would NEVER Have Fallen for Phony INTEL!

Plame Affair makes clear: USA is run by TRAITORS.

How Cheney Got His SNEER: The Curse of Dick Cheney

BFEE Is More than Capable of Bombing Their Own Countrymen

Frank Church and the Abyss of Warrantless Wiretapping.


And for all my friends with those hard-to-reach areas between the ears:

A fact curiously missing from American history and any mention of the Warren Commission

A Short History of Conspiracy Theory

¿ Paraguay? ¡Porque no!

DEA Agents Agree: CIA means Cocaine Importation Agency

Note 1: The subject is a work in progress. The entries are not perfect, nor are they complete. They do provide a framework for a who's-who and what's-what and how we got here. Started for educational and historical purposes, these threads are meant to serve the public interest. What gives them a special quality are the contributions of DUers. May they also serve some prosecutor in the future.

Note 2: As no individual is totally evil or totally good, not all Bushes are evil or beholden to the BFEE. Nor are all those who gain by its existence members of the immediate or extended Bush family. Nor are the Bushes at the pinnacle of global power -- it is quite likely they serve an even wealthier class. What they all have in common is the use of the powers of the government of the United States for accumulating wealth and power for themselves, their associates and the other affiliated beneficiaries among the world's financial elite and authoritarian regimes. Always, they gain at the expense of the people and nations of the world, including the citizens of the United States and its Constitution.

Thank you for everything, jotsy. You mean the world to me.

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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 03:49 PM
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28. A wonderful compendium of the malicious exploits of the BFEE! Kicking for all to see.
:kick: :kick: :kick:
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jotsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 11:33 PM
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32. Your journals are already a regular stop when doing research on relevant matters.
How you would choose to correlate and twine the culmination of your efforts will be interesting to watch unfold.

I don't frequent these boards for the same reasons or as much as I used to. I thought I had things to say, but so many here already speak to the real issues more reliably and with more cred than me, folks like you who I come to read and support.

Such dedication to public service deserves no less.

Keep it coming!
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 01:59 PM
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27. Almost all of those fucks got cushie jobs in the Booshe misadministration
Edited on Thu Oct-28-10 02:00 PM by DainBramaged
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A31074-2005Jan23.html

Some of those pictured have gone on to other things, including stints at the White House. For example, Matt Schlapp, No. 6, a former House aide and then a Bush campaign aide, has risen to be White House political director. Garry Malphrus, No. 2 in the photo, a former staff director of the Senate Judiciary subcommittee on criminal justice, is now deputy director of the White House Domestic Policy Council. And Rory Cooper, No. 3, who was at the National Republican Congressional Committee, later worked at the White House Homeland Security Council and was seen last week working for the Presidential Inaugural Committee.

No. 1. Tom Pyle, who had worked for Rep. Tom DeLay (R-Tex.), went private sector a few months later, getting a job as director of federal affairs for Koch Industries.

No. 7. Roger Morse, another House aide, moved on to the law and lobbying firm Preston Gates Ellis & Rouvelas Meeds. "I was also privileged to lead a team of Republicans to Florida to help in the recount fight," he told a legal trade magazine in a 2003 interview.

No. 8. Duane Gibson, an aide on the House Resources Committee, was a solo lobbyist and formerly with the Greenberg Traurig lobby operation. He is now with the Livingston Group as a consultant.

No. 9. Chuck Royal was and still is a legislative assistant to Sen. Jim DeMint (R-S.C.), a former House member.

No. 10. Layna McConkey Peltier, who had been a Senate and House aide and was at Steelman Health Strategies during the effort, is now at Capital Health Group.

(We couldn't find No. 4, Kevin Smith, a former GOP House aide who later worked with Voter.com, or No. 5, Steven Brophy, a former GOP Senate aide and then at consulting firm KPMG. If you know what they are doing these days, please e-mail shackelford@washpost.comso we can update our records.)

Sources say the "rioters" proudly note their participation on résumés and in interviews. But while the original hardy band of demonstrators numbered barely a couple of dozen, the numbers apparently have grown with the legend.

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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 03:51 PM
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29. goes back to the robber barons hiring thugs to beat up union members
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MedicalAdmin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 04:01 PM
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30. Looking ot the future.
We need flash mobs ready to go in the next elections and until this country returns to its democratic ideals. I hate to take a page from the book of labor history, but...

... we need to show up when shit like this happens with some mutha fuckin baseball bats and break some fuckin legs and heads. I would also suggest both shoulders so that they have to hire someone to wipe their ass until the casts are off. "Send 'em a message" as the old labor leaders used to say.

They stole an election. They had no other reason to do so other than to steal the election. As such, it is our duty as American's and patriots to put these fascist fucks in the hospital.

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bluesmail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 05:04 PM
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31. I wasn't alive at the time, but have read lots about Operation Paperclip
Reinhard Gehlan and the true coup. Those Nazi's must have made quite the deal to get their top scientists into our government. No wonder Hitler said The Third Reich would last for 1000(?) years. There's parallels with Prescott Bush and the Nazi party. Oh yeah, it can't happen here. :scared: :scared:
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 11:44 PM
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33. kick
:kick:
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