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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 02:32 PM
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Once-Booming Las Vegas may be Reduced to Ghost City, 80% of homes are underwater
Edited on Thu Oct-28-10 02:32 PM by Liberal_in_LA
Once-Booming Las Vegas may be Reduced to Ghost City
by Kathy Jones on October 24, 2010 at 5:49 PM

The housing market in Las Vegas is on the slide and many have already left for greener shores.

Earlene Howard is the only person left living in a house on her block in Sin City, and she's not sure how much longer she'll be there as the once booming Las Vegas housing market continues to spiral downwards.

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The once-booming Las Vegas region has for 44 straight months led the United States in home foreclosures, and 80 percent of houses here are figuratively underwater -- worth less than the debt owed on them.

A staggering 23.6 percent of Nevada mortgages are in some form of delinquency or foreclosure, significantly higher than the national average of 14 percent, according to data from the Mortgage Bankers Association.

It's a confusing, devastating turn of events for a city that for two decades was the sterling example of an American boom town.


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NV Whino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 02:37 PM
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1. This is astounding.
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 02:41 PM
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4. And this is also why Harry Reid is struggling to win re-election. Times are tough in Vegas
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 06:24 PM
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33. Not really, if you look at the history of any boom.. Booms come with Bust built right in
Booms are all about "fast money" for the ones in the beginning..by the time the destructive phase kicks in, they are already gone & on to the next Boom. It;s very much like a ponzi scheme..get in, grab as much as you can, and then beat it before the ones at the tail end figure out they have been screwed.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 02:39 PM
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2. Recommended just so people understand that building a
company on vice doesn't always end up nice...

So many things are going against Vegas now that almost every person lives within 200 miles of some kind of gambling.

The glitz may not be there but the mom and pop gamblers don't care if Wayne Newton or for that matter anyone else is performing.
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Lance_Boyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 02:40 PM
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3. the irony - majority of homes 'underwater' in a desert city with no water
Las Vegas could stand to be reduced by about 80%. Maybe more. The hubris of building a metropolis (even a chintzy plastic one like Vegas) in such an unfitting environment is astounding. Stupid humans.

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jdlh8894 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 03:07 PM
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8. Stupid Humans? How about NOLA?
Build a house that is already below sea level(under water to start with)Now THAT'S F'king STUPID!!!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 03:10 PM
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jdlh8894 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 03:22 PM
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11. uninformed?ignorant?Clueless?
Don't get me wrong,but anybody that lives BELOW sea level is just on borrowed time.
JMO
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bluedigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 04:44 PM
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20. Ever hear of the Netherlands?
A lot of folks living there would disagree. (Or are at least willing to take the risk.) Comparing New Orleans and Las Vegas is silly anyways. One was founded several hundred years before the other, with completely different aims, as well as far different levels of knowledge to anticipate future problems.
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 04:42 PM
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19. Exactly. I'd rush in to scoop up one of those oversized tract houses on the cheap...
but won't live anywhere the water supply might fail at any time.

It may surprise some people, but I feel exactly the same about Florida.
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 05:37 PM
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25. FL will come back.
But from the looks of things around here it will be a solid decade before businesses begin looking to move back in. Probably another decade after that for real estate to begin picking up. It's still going downhill here in NE FL, far worse in central and south FL. Central FL has the Mouse and Bugs Bunny (Disney and Universal) for tourist-y things, those aren't going anywhere. The big lesson here is concentrate on diversification and higher education, plus investing in our future infrastructure.

One of these days I'm going to do a piece on how Jacksonville went from a once-promising Southern city to a gutted-ghost town in one decade.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 02:44 PM
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5. K & R but Please don't use the term "underwater" with regards to
Las Vegas homes.

Las Vegas is using up the local water supply far more than the environment can afford.

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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 02:44 PM
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6. Once one gets away from the Strip or Freemont ST.
Las Vegas was no different than any other city.
People lived no different than others in other cities.
Every time I flew into Vegas one could see more and more houses going up.
They just really over built too fast.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 02:47 PM
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7. when gambling was deregulated, the special gambling enclaves took a hit: that's one reason.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 06:53 PM
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34. Only Hawaii people need to leave the state to legally gamble.
The rest of the states have their own gambling.
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cyr330 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 03:09 PM
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9. Too fucking bad, So Sad. . .
And now those idiots are going to vote in Sharon Angle?????? They fucking deserve her!
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 03:25 PM
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12. Many of these homes were huge, all stucco and "open floor
Edited on Thu Oct-28-10 03:26 PM by WinkyDink
plans," many over $1M.

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dgibby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 03:57 PM
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13. There are going to be a lot of ghost towns before this is over.
Las Vegas is just the canary in the coal mine.
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Pathwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 03:59 PM
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14. Detroit was the parrot, then?
:shrug:
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reggie the dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 04:52 PM
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21. Flint, Cleveland, Toledo, East Rutheford, Trenton
am i missing some????
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 05:39 PM
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27. Let's not forget Pittsburgh...
that canary nearly bit the dust but they turned it completely around. We need to look at how they did it, too.
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reggie the dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 05:41 PM
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29. yep
Edited on Thu Oct-28-10 05:43 PM by reggie the dog
i think i mentioned pittsburgh somewhere else on this thread too,http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9407525
i would add my hometown of chicago because downtown has its fancy office jobs but the west and south sides lost their economic base when the city's economic backbone, factories and steel mills, closed down or drastically cut back operations....
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 05:47 PM
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31. Another great reference...
thanks for more great reading! A local forum I visit has regular articles about other cities in similar situations and discusses how they turned it around (this forum is very transportation-centric/downtown issues-focused). There have been articles on Charlotte, Indianapolis, Pittsburgh, etc. Of course we can put our heads together on the internet and solve all these problems (ha) but convincing the mostly-republican city council, mayor and voters of Jacksonville is another story. This is the first city I've every lived in which died due to voters hating themselves. :eyes: :banghead:
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 05:29 PM
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24. Parakeet. :-)
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taught_me_patience Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 04:00 PM
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15. Sounds like a good time to buy
Articles like these often signal the bottom of a downturn.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 04:00 PM
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16. Hail Atlantis
Let us rejoice and let us sing and dance and ring in the new.
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FarCenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 04:19 PM
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17. All those gambling tourists flying to Las Vegas contribute to global warming
Online gambling from your PC is much better for the environment.

Atlantic City is another "gambling mecca" that should go away.
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bluedigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 04:31 PM
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18. It's obsolete.
Las Vegas is the city gambling built, and now gambling isn't that hard to access. They have tried to recast it as a family vacation destination, but with the slogan "What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas" they haven't had much success. :shrug: When the economy went south the writing was on the wall for Vegas. Unless they figure out another way to diversify their economy (solar?), they are doomed.
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EmeraldCityGrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 05:06 PM
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22. Good riddance. Couldn't happen to a more deserving
hellhole. Many of those homes were bought by flippers or people wanting second homes in Vegas.
Vegas is an unsustainable town in todays world.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 05:20 PM
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23. there`s at least 8 or more brand new or rebuilt
casinos within a 8 or less hours from where i live. why would anyone take the trouble to fly to vegas?
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 05:47 PM
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32. Because it's Vegas
Not everyone goes there to gamble.
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felix_numinous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 05:38 PM
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26. And where did all these people go?
THAT is a story in itself, the invisible people who are now living in their cars and in tent cities. If they are not on the streets, they live with someone else.
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 05:40 PM
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28. It certainly is...
the shadow people.
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 05:45 PM
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30. Many comments in this thread are sickening
Do some of you idiots realize there are struggling people in Vegas who are losing their jobs and their homes? To read things like "good riddance" makes me sick! :mad:
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