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FedUpWithIt All Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 07:26 PM
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The 22 year old son of woman facing stoning in Iran, arrested and tortured?
He was arrested earlier this month, along with two German journalists and Sakineh Mohammadi Ashtiani's attorney, while waiting to conduct an interview.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39615002/ns/world_news-mideastn_africa/

There are reports that he has been severely tortured.

http://stopstonningnow.com/wpress/4193

http://www.aolnews.com/world/article/report-iran-torturing-condemned-woman-sakineh-mohammadi-ashtianis-son/19694132

For a minute it seemed the pressure on Iran might save Sakineh Mohammadi Ashtiani's life but these recent events are very disheartening. Please write local and national media and ask them to continue to cover this.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 07:27 PM
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theoldman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 07:32 PM
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2. Not true.
Iran has a bad government,not bad people.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 08:01 PM
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 08:02 PM
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4. you should write them.
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TriMera Donating Member (885 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 08:03 PM
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5. They could say the same about us. n/t
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 08:08 PM
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6. Where were you last June? (nt)
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xor Donating Member (180 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 08:09 PM
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7. Easy as 1 2 3...
At least when you're not the one who has to take to streets and risk being detained or killed by the thugs in power. Remember what happened after their last elections? Also, are all citizens of the US bad people for not overthrowing the last administration here when they invaded Iraq?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 08:15 PM
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thunder rising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 08:44 PM
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9. Neda? Iranian citizens faced great danger protesting last year.
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FedUpWithIt All Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 09:24 PM
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10. Meanwhile, a young man is detained because he urged support for the release of his mother
Edited on Thu Oct-28-10 09:25 PM by FedUpWithIt All
who he felt was wrongly sentenced to death as she had already endured lashes for the supposed crime.

This young man's detention leaves his 17 year old sister alone and concerned. She had been living with her brother (according to reports their remaining family had ostracized them) as they bravely fought to save their mother's life.

Again, please write the media and ask them to report this young man's situation.
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happyslug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-10 12:25 AM
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12. Yes, the rest of the family wants her dead
Edited on Fri Oct-29-10 12:42 AM by happyslug
Remember she is accused of having conspired with her lover to kill her husband. Ignoring the adultery angle, the murder charge is enough to get her executed in the US.

Thus it is no wonder the rest of the family has abandoned her, her husband's family has no connection with her and hates her for killing their Brother/Son/Nephew/Uncle/Grandson, this is a non-western Nation and one of the characteristic of Non-Western Nations is a tendency to marry one's cousins. Thus not only is her late husband's family wants her dead, her family may want her dead (i.e. being the same family given Cousins marry cousins in much of the world).

As to the Western Practice of NOT Marrying your Cousins, that is the fault of the Catholic Church. The Catholic Church banned cousin marrying except with special permission during the Dark Ages (more to attack the the concentration of wealth such cousin marriage preserved within one group of people then anything else). Since the reformation the ban has survived in culture, through not illegal in many states (and NOT illegal in much of Europe and Latin America, through looked down on in Europe and Latin America).

Just brought the subject up to explain why HER family (except her son and daughter) are NOT providing her any support. i.e. her family and his family are the same extended family.

This case has been discussed before, it is a bigger issue in the West then in Iran:
Discussed back in September:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4528880#4529859
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FedUpWithIt All Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-10 01:02 AM
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14. And her son, the reporters and the attorney were arrested for?
For speaking out against the sentence and in defense of Ms. Ashtiani? Could it be that her extended family sought to avoid a similar type scenario?

The British government condemned the video, saying Iran appeared to be inventing new murder charges against Ms. Ashtiani, to justify her execution. Amnesty International and other human rights groups compared the videotaped statement to forced confessions made by Iranian political dissidents, who in some cases recanted afterward and said they had confessed under torture.

Ms. Ashtiani was convicted of adultery in 2006, but the murder accusation was disclosed only in August 2010 - after her case drew international condemnation - in an apparent effort to suggest that she was guilty of a more serious crime.


http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/a/sakineh_mohammadi_ashtiani/index.html
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 10:20 PM
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11. I wonder when the west (australia & New Zealand) are going to cut off their
supplies of lamb to Iran. Something has to happen. They keep killing people.
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happyslug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-10 12:27 AM
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13. As soon as both cut off trade with the US and China, both still have the death Penalty
And the crime she is accused of, she would be convicted and maybe sentenced to death in either country if the crime occurred in a jurisdiction that had the Death Penalty.

N/T
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FedUpWithIt All Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-10 02:09 PM
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15. Depends on who you're asking.
The British government condemned the video, saying Iran appeared to be inventing new murder charges against Ms. Ashtiani, to justify her execution. Amnesty International and other human rights groups compared the videotaped statement to forced confessions made by Iranian political dissidents, who in some cases recanted afterward and said they had confessed under torture.

Ms. Ashtiani was convicted of adultery in 2006, but the murder accusation was disclosed only in August 2010 - after her case drew international condemnation - in an apparent effort to suggest that she was guilty of a more serious crime.



http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/peo...

There has been no reason given why her son was arrested and may now be suffering torture.
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