Polls Indicate Voters Want Obama And GOP To Compromise

[bigtree]

10/28/2010

(RTTNews) -

. . . recent polls suggest that voters want Obama and members of Congress from both parties to compromise in order to address the issues that continue to impact the nation.

The results of a New York Times/CBS News poll released on Wednesday showed that 69 percent of adults want Obama to compromise some of his positions in order to get things done compared to 22 percent that want the president to stick to his positions even if it means not getting as much done.

Similarly, the poll said 78 percent of those surveyed want Republicans to compromise to get things done and 76 percent said they want the same from Democrats.

A separate Bloomberg National Poll found that 80 percent of likely voters want the two parties to work together even if it means compromising some principles. Just 16 percent said they want the parties to stick to their principles even if it means gridlock.


read: http://www.rttnews.com/ArticleView.aspx?Id=1460921

[DonCoquixote]

1. In other words

Since we all know the GOP won't give an inch, this is where we supposedly get told to give in more...The MSM is transparent.

[femmocrat]

2. Like that's going to happen....

:eyes: ... Fools.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

3. Lots of luck in that one.

To paraphrase Barney Frank, what planet do they spend most of their time on?

[WillyT]

4. Polls Indicate Voters Don't Know Their Elbows From Their Assholes

Just sayin...

:shrug:

[bigtree]

6. sure, who cares what voters say they want? We should just do whatever we think is best,

. . . say republicans.

[WillyT]

15. The Fact That ANYONE Would Vote For THIS Republican Party...

let alone any avowed "Tea Party" Republican, tells you all you need to know about the intelligence of many of our fellow citizens.

[bigtree]

19. like I said

. . . why don't our legislators just tell them what they're going to do . . . and they'll like it, right? Our politicians know best . . . don't they? Compromise, be damned. We're going to just line up with dukes out and fight. They'll be able to differentiate between us by how righteous we are and how firmly the opposition insists we're wrong.

[WillyT]

20. I'm Sorry, But I Don't Compromise With Bigots, Misogynists, Homophobes, The KKK...

Fascists, Nazis... just to name a few.

You???

:shrug:

[bigtree]

21. interesting

You're looking to cast political compromise as a complicity with whatever sins you attribute to the few republicans who cross the line to vote with Democrats from time to time. Does it matter what legislation they're passing, or are all initiatives best left untended and ignored for fear of obtaining the vote of a tainted republican?

Do you really stand against all legislation passed with cross-over votes of republicans? Or is there any legislation you can imagine that has merit enough to seek and accept their cooperation?

[WillyT]

29. The Problem With Compromise, Other-Wise Known As "Meeting Them Halfway", Is...

that every time THEY move further to the right, WE have to move further to the right to find the magical "Halfway". And we've already moved too far right for my tastes.

Any further right, and my party will have left me. In many ways, it already has.

:shrug:

[DCKit]

5. That's the ideal, but the (R) idea of compromise is to get everything they ask for.

Then they want something else in addition.

It doesn't work in this reality.

[Zoeisright]

23. Exactly. Repukes are thugs and don't compromise.

n/t

[frylock]

35. neither do moderates or conservatives..

from either party.

[spanone]

7. believe NOTHING you read in the media right now...NOTHING

[bigtree]

12. this isn't some new finding

This has been a consistent attitude of voters for years and years. Most voters feel politicians bicker too much and accomplish too little. That's not just some invention produced in time for this election. It's been polled many times before.

[county worker]

8. This should get the duh! award tonight.

So why are they voting for the party of no?

[beyurslf]

9. I want to know who they ask those questions to.

Who says I believe in these certain things but I want the people who believe like me to give in to people who are nuts? It makes no sense.

[KingOfLostSouls]

10. We've compromised ENOUGH

[leftstreet]

11. LOL Media highlight bickering mud-slinging politicians. Survey says....

"can't they all just get the fuck along and solve our problems?"

These results are shocking!!!1111

[sufrommich]

13. +1. The media need their circus. nt

[McCamy Taylor]

14. Um...but the GOP's number one priority is kicking Obama out of office.

So says their number one man in the Senate, Mitch McConnel.

[bigtree]

17. I'm not sure that means voters should expect Democratic legislators to emulate them

I'm not reading that voters want us to just take an opposite tack and spend our time posturing and bickering. At some point, voters want something done. Just because the republicans are in an epic pout doesn't mean they can't be moved by voters fed up with their obstruction and intransigence. Our party looks to wisely be offering a responsible alternative; not just a mirror of the republicans' inanity.

[hadrons]

16. The poll states that MORE people want the REPUKES to compromise ....

And I want Jennifer Aniston to compromise and make passion love to me every night ... but that ain't happening.

This is the problem with unengaged voters, they really don't know what's going on. People are begging for results to improve their lives, but it isn't happening ... and frankly it isn't in part because there's a large group of people who simply do not know the true nature of the politics today.

[Angry Dragon]

26. Don't sell yourself so short with Jennifer

I will have George talk to her on your behalf


and the republicans will have souls on Nov. 3

[Pirate Smile]

18. This highlights the supreme idiocy of this election. The middle and Independents are rewarding

Republicans for atrocious behavior and by doing so are encouraging a continuation of the atrocious behavior while in some bizarre mind game they are playing with themselves somehow thinking it will make them get along and compromise. :crazy:

The Republicans think that the problem they had in 95' in shutting down the Government was that they GAVE IN TOO SOON. They should have "stuck it out".

People are electing people who will do the exact OPPOSITE of what they supposedly want.

Want more job creation? Hey, elect the people who refuse to support any stimulus and want to create even more unemployed people by not supporting the state and local governments, teachers, etc. Yeah, let's create even less demand by cutting spending, causing more job loss, causing less demand, causing more job loss, rinse, lather, repeat, rinse, lather repeat.

Let's teach the parties to "get along" and "compromise" by electing the people who refused to "get along" and "compromise". What? You mean they may not believe that you actually want them to do the opposite of what they have been doing which got you to support them in the first place?

Gah.:crazy:

I hope to be surprised on November 2. But I'm not counting on it - although I am working to try to make sure that it doesn't happen the way I describe above.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

22. McConnell, Boehner, McCain already stated emphatically that they WILL NOT compromise.

Bachmann, Pence, Issa will start investigations and issuing subpoenas.

Americans: PLEASE WAKE UP!! PLEASE!!!

The Republicans will exploit the rules and will NEVER compromise!!!

[bigtree]

25. McConnell might not. A republican House certainly wouldn't.

But that doesn't necessarily eliminate the possibility of peeling off one or two pressured (or even sympathetic) republicans to pass a bill or two. It's not unheard of.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

27. Yeah, good luck with that. We already tried that. Many times. Remember? n/t

[bigtree]

30. here's a recent example of forcing (persuading - achieving) compromise

from September: (http://www.govtrackinsider.com/articles/2010-09-14/senate-dems-break)

Senate Dems Break Small-Business-Jobs-Bill Filibuster

Since June 29th, Sen­ate Democrats have been stymied by Re­pub­li­cans on a bill (H.R. 5297) that would give small busi­ness $12 bil­lion in tax breaks and a $30 bil­lion lend­ing fund in order to en­cour­age new hir­ing. Today, a cou­ple Re­pub­li­cans gave in, pro­vid­ing the Democrats the votes they need to over­come GOP op­po­si­tion and move the bill to­wards final pas­sage.

Sen. George Voinovich and Sen. George LeMieux voted with every Demo­crat in favor of a “clo­ture” mo­tion this af­ter­noon, mak­ing moot the rest of the Re­pub­li­cans’ threat to fil­i­buster. As a re­minder, here’s how the $30 bil­lion lend­ing fund in the bill would work, via Busi­ness­week:

The fund would in­vest in small banks—those with less than $10 bil­lion in as­sets—by pur­chas­ing pre­ferred stock, which would pay the gov­ern­ment a div­i­dend of 5 per­cent. The cost of that money would de­crease to a div­i­dend as small as 1 per­cent if banks boost their small busi­ness loans over 2009 lev­els by 10 per­cent. For banks that do not in­crease their small busi­ness lend­ing, the cap­i­tal would be­come more ex­pen­sive, with the div­i­dend ris­ing to 7 per­cent.

The Con­gres­sion­al Bud­get Of­fice es­ti­mates that the fund will re­sult in a $2 bil­lion sur­plus for the gov­ern­ment over the next 2 years due to the in­ter­est banks would be pay­ing on the loans. And, for what it’s worth, Ma­jor­i­ty Lead­er Sen. Harry Reid es­ti­mates it will pro­duce 500,000 – 700,000 jobs.


here's the WH assessment of the passed and signed law's early benefits and results: (http://www.rttnews.com/Content/Policy.aspx?Id=1461003)

Small Business Administration head Karen Mills Thursday sought to highlight successful increases in small business lending in the wake of a jobs bill that U.S. President Barack Obama signed last month.

Writing on the White House's blog, Mills said that the Small Business Jobs Act had allowed the SBA to make more than $3 billion in loans to more than 5,000 businesses across the country in just the last month.

"That's more than 5,000 small business owners who've felt first-hand, within one month, the impact this new law is having on our economy," she said, "from Peabody Engineering, a tank and fiberglass manufacturer in Southern California that is using a Jobs Act loan to hire 10 more workers, to Caudill Web Design here in our nation's capital, who will use their Jobs Act loan to hire more programmers to meet increased demand."

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

32. No House Republican voted for it. And the only why LeMieux and Voinovich voted for

it is because they are both leaving/retiring from Congress.

[bigtree]

33. the House vote is normally a partisan matter.

When we look for compromise, it's normally the Senate which provides for breakthroughs. Whether it's for personal or political reasons, there have been times when we've peeled off republicans amenable to our legislation. We've 'tried that' in the past and succeeded. Political pressure in these republicans' states is often the best lever to gain their cooperation.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

34. Not on the level that we've seen in the past two days. They are voting in sync.

With Republicans taking over the House, I cannot expect anything to change at all.

I'm sorry. I'm just not as rosy on this issue as you are. The Republicans care much more about power than about America.

Fuck 'em!! :puke::puke:

[ibegurpard]

24. uh huh

[ThoughtCriminal]

28. MANY compromises by Democrats - ZERO from GOP

Want the stimulus to include tax cuts even though they are the least effective measure for creating jobs - sure we'll compromise there. Result: No GOP support and non-stop attacks (while taking credit for stimulus spending in their own districts)

Health care - Drop Single payer? - you got it. Drop competitive bidding for drug prices? OK. Kill Public option? - No problem. Result: Pass "reform virtually identical to what the GOP proposed in the early 90's and still they accuse you of being a Stalin worshiping death panel advocate. Oh, and those concessions to drug companies and Health Monopolies. They're really happy, but they will now spend unlimited cash to support Republicans in elections now - that will kill any pesky cost containment regulation. Thank you for playing.

Want to filibuster everything? Legislation now requires a 60-vote super-majority in the Senate. They don't even have to show up - just threaten to do it and that legislation is dead. But, if they should get control of the Senate back, 51 votes is all they will need to get anything passed.

[blue sky at night]

31. how do you say "whoopdie doooooo"......it doesn't matter a bit....

the repukes won't do one thing to help turn the country around...never have, never will.

[frylock]

36. knu..

compromise is a two-way street. the next time the repubs or conservodems compromise on ANYTHING will be the first time.

[bigtree]

37. plenty of bills have advanced with republican votes

. . . key votes in the Senate. It's not unheard of.

[frylock]

41. which bills?

USAPATRIOT? examples?

[bigtree]

42. a recent example

from September: (http://www.govtrackinsider.com/articles/2010-09-14/senate-dems-break )

Senate Dems Break Small-Business-Jobs-Bill Filibuster

Since June 29th, Sen­ate Democrats have been stymied by Re­pub­li­cans on a bill (H.R. 5297) that would give small busi­ness $12 bil­lion in tax breaks and a $30 bil­lion lend­ing fund in order to en­cour­age new hir­ing. Today, a cou­ple Re­pub­li­cans gave in, pro­vid­ing the Democrats the votes they need to over­come GOP op­po­si­tion and move the bill to­wards final pas­sage.

Sen. George Voinovich and Sen. George LeMieux voted with every Demo­crat in favor of a “clo­ture” mo­tion this af­ter­noon, mak­ing moot the rest of the Re­pub­li­cans’ threat to fil­i­buster. As a re­minder, here’s how the $30 bil­lion lend­ing fund in the bill would work, via Busi­ness­week:

The fund would in­vest in small banks—those with less than $10 bil­lion in as­sets—by pur­chas­ing pre­ferred stock, which would pay the gov­ern­ment a div­i­dend of 5 per­cent. The cost of that money would de­crease to a div­i­dend as small as 1 per­cent if banks boost their small busi­ness loans over 2009 lev­els by 10 per­cent. For banks that do not in­crease their small busi­ness lend­ing, the cap­i­tal would be­come more ex­pen­sive, with the div­i­dend ris­ing to 7 per­cent.

The Con­gres­sion­al Bud­get Of­fice es­ti­mates that the fund will re­sult in a $2 bil­lion sur­plus for the gov­ern­ment over the next 2 years due to the in­ter­est banks would be pay­ing on the loans. And, for what it’s worth, Ma­jor­i­ty Lead­er Sen. Harry Reid es­ti­mates it will pro­duce 500,000 – 700,000 jobs.


here's the WH assessment of the passed and signed law's early benefits and results: (http://www.rttnews.com/Content/Policy.aspx?Id=1461003 )

Small Business Administration head Karen Mills Thursday sought to highlight successful increases in small business lending in the wake of a jobs bill that U.S. President Barack Obama signed last month.

Writing on the White House's blog, Mills said that the Small Business Jobs Act had allowed the SBA to make more than $3 billion in loans to more than 5,000 businesses across the country in just the last month.

"That's more than 5,000 small business owners who've felt first-hand, within one month, the impact this new law is having on our economy," she said, "from Peabody Engineering, a tank and fiberglass manufacturer in Southern California that is using a Jobs Act loan to hire 10 more workers, to Caudill Web Design here in our nation's capital, who will use their Jobs Act loan to hire more programmers to meet increased demand."

[frylock]

43. wow. two republicans broke ranks..

gimme me some more examples.

[bigtree]

44. you must not follow legislation much

Most of the bills passed by our Democratic Senate have needed republican defectors to overcome the filibuster. It'll do no good to try and send me looking for all of them for you. I've witnessed them. You need to do some home work, on your own, if you believe our fragile majority can advance Democratic-oriented legislation without cross-over votes from the few republicans we can pressure, convince, or concede to.

[frylock]

50. i follow legislation quite closely, thank you..

i know that the "left" is made to compromise on just about everything. you gave me one lame-ass example that quite a few respected economists state doesn't really amount to jack shit; that the small business bill is just feel-good legislation. now who compromised on the health INSURANCE bill? republicans? nope. not a one voted for it despite obama's capitulation, so when i hear that there's going to be more reach around the aisle from the dems, then i know that we can all BOHICA.

[bigtree]

51. one 'lame-ass' example

. . . that I'm certain is more than just 'feel-good' legislation to the small-businesses who were able to borrow money and to the workers who found jobs as a result of the bill.

There's no guarantee that we'll gain crossover votes, and it's presumably going to be a tighter balance of power there, but it's not unheard of for our party to either pressure or attract republicans to vote for our legislation (for whatever it's worth to you).

[kwolf68]

38. Compromise

If the Tea Bagged Party takes over next week, there will be NO compromise. It's going to be a circus.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

39. It should go over well with the "If you can't beat 'em join 'em" Blue Dogs and DLC wing of the party

[bigtree]

40. it should go over well with those voters who elected them

. . . and, perhaps, with the citizens in their states who sought to advance republicans in their place with their votes.

[cynatnite]

45. The Repukes will listen to the tea party types...not the majority of Americans.n/t

[MichDem10]

46. Guess we don't need to worry about hell freezing over!

[political_Dem]

47. Too bad that survey had the wrong questions.

They should have had added:

f) the GOP and the Teabaggers should go to hell.

g) the GOP and the Teabaggers should get the maximum sentence in jail.

h) both f and g.

:sarcasm: :sarcasm:

Seriously, though, bipartisanship didn't help the last two years. Why should it be practiced now? The GOP doesn't play well with others. Instead of polite, contolled and rational negotiation, they curb stomp people who disagree with them.

[Lucian]

48. 69 percent of adults are idiots.

Bush didn't have to compromise and he got all his shit passed.

Why doesn't Obama do the same?

[bigtree]

49. Pres. Obama doesn't have a sufficient number of republican defectors

. . . to cross-over and support Democratic legislation and overcome the cloture votes.

On the other hand, Bush had a ready pack of conservative Democrats willing to bend to republican-oriented initiatives and advance them to his desk.

[treestar]

53. Yes, he did

And Bush did not get all he wanted. Why be as dumb as those you are condemning as dumb?

[treestar]

52. Don't they know that Republicans will not compromise?

Yet vote them in. Stupid.

[Lasher]

54. No, they don't. They need educated on that.

Elected Democrats, Obama in particular, should have been calling Republicans out on this at every turn.

[Warren Stupidity]

55. Oh fuck that, seriously.

We just had two years of one way compromising with the NOP. Now we are going to get a non-stop barrage of 'democrats must cave' from the talk-nazis, and Obama will be advised to redo Clinton 94-2000, without the intern blowjob.