KansasVoter
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Thu Oct-28-10 11:48 PM
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Wow, seems like Prop 19 is going to lose! |
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Polls in last week have all gone under 50%! Old people getting against it! DAMN!!
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Thu Oct-28-10 11:50 PM
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1. This Californian is trying her best to get people to vote it in. |
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I'm sad about the polls. :(
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Thu Oct-28-10 11:51 PM
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2. How many people are going to answer |
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YEAH I am for it, to a live pollster/stranger on the other end of an open line? I will do a wait and see, people may feel differently alone in with the ballot.
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Fri Oct-29-10 01:26 AM
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21. In fact, automated polls show it passing by a nice margin. |
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Thu Oct-28-10 11:57 PM
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3. I believe the postmortem will find those who opposed it are quite diverse. . . |
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and the spectrum of opposition will cut across all demographics.
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Fri Oct-29-10 12:23 AM
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9. I believe you are right. |
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Thu Oct-28-10 11:58 PM
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4. They used fear: the schoolbus driver will be high, the nurse will be high nt |
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Fri Oct-29-10 12:05 AM
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6. Now they can continue to be drunk |
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...and illegally High.
Go Nurse Betty!
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Fri Oct-29-10 12:02 AM
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5. At first I was shocked by your OP headline. |
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But then I began to remember that this trend often follows measures like this. Logic gives the measure a good lead, but the opposition uses baseless fear to kill it.
Ugh.
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Fri Oct-29-10 12:07 AM
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7. There's big money to be maintained by keeping the status quo. |
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Prisons, DEA, alcohol, the growers/investors all have a vested interest in keeping pot illegal. I'm sure they can get the rent-a-poll results they want...but I suspect that voters of California are going to pass this. I think they realize how much discretionary income is locked up in marijuana purchases that could be better spent in the above ground economy. And the tax dollar savings in prosecuting/incarcerating for simple possession cases. Given all of the real problems that this country faces today, the marijuana 'problem' ranks about 3,956.
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Fri Oct-29-10 12:11 AM
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8. Actually the right should be for this |
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It would be less government, less court costs, police, federal agencies, all kinds of cost savings
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Fri Oct-29-10 12:26 AM
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10. there are social conservatives on both the right and left |
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we see that here.
honestly, I have no use for any of them on either side of the aisle.
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Fri Oct-29-10 01:27 AM
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23. You misspelled "assholes" |
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Fri Oct-29-10 12:31 AM
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11. Except that the right only pretends to care about those things. |
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AND the right is driven by fear of change.
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Fri Oct-29-10 12:31 AM
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12. Prop 19 to go up in smoke wil be the headline....give an old person a spliff. |
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Fri Oct-29-10 12:37 AM
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13. I'm taking the long view on this one... |
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I suspect it may lose, but it won't be the end.
It wasn't terribly well written, IMHO. Having each county/town/whatever writing their own rules (IIRC) wasn't too smart. That needs to be done over.
Eventually, probably not too far in the future, it will pass.
It will.
Oh, and BTW...not all old people are against it... ;)
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Fri Oct-29-10 01:12 AM
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18. I tend to agree. It's an awkwardly written Prop. I'm voting for it...but I can see the points |
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folks are making about its construct. :hi:
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Fri Oct-29-10 01:22 AM
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19. Yup, that is how I feel too! |
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Fri Oct-29-10 12:40 AM
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Fri Oct-29-10 12:51 AM
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16. I don't know if it's old people or not, but tonight I helped two |
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80 something year olds fill out their ballots and both are voting for it. I don't know a lot of people in their age range, but they believe that people should be able to decide for themselves 'when they are grown up' and if it helps them with pain etc.
Everyone I talk to here (in Ojai) is for it. And a few people I have talked to registered to vote just so they can vote for it. I'm sure there are a lot of people against it also. We'll see.
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Fri Oct-29-10 01:28 AM
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24. Common sense suggests you're correct ..... |
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Edited on Fri Oct-29-10 01:29 AM by defendandprotect
They have to know there's a lot of money involved in Drug War which
would help all Americans in many ways --
They should also understand the threat of jail for their grandkids if they dabble
with marijuana -- and the need to move this to the "health issue" side of the fence --
Glad to hear the issue is bringing people out to vote!!
:)
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Fri Oct-29-10 12:58 AM
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17. meanwhile things are bizarre here in bizarro-world. |
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aka Colorado Springs.
there is a county ballot measure to ban dispensaries in unincorporated el paso county. it looks like the measure will be voted down, meaning dispensaries will be allowed to continue to operate. i guess the evangelical military right really loves their smoke.
it's a similarly complex issue here. banning dispensaries would mean that cannabis could still be grown in homes in neighborhoods, which is protected by the state constitution. the opposition is Citizens for Safe Neighborhoods, encouraging commercial grow ops operated under the watchful eye of the state and local officials instead of impossible to regulate home grows. so we have people who are against pot who will be voting to support dispensaries in order to discourage the small commercial residential operations.
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Fri Oct-29-10 01:24 AM
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20. Like LGBT marriage equality, they can only hold back the tide for so long. |
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Maybe not this year, but it's coming. Abso-fucking-lutely.
Some people need to deal with it, and find other hobbies besides telling consenting adults how to live their lives and what to do with their bodies. Oh No!
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Fri Oct-29-10 01:41 AM
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Fri Oct-29-10 01:26 AM
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22. Would think it's Big Pharma and Big Money .... ???? |
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Why would the elderly not understand the threat of illegal drugs to their
grandkids?
Or paying for the Drug War -- $43 billion and more?
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