Obama stops major terrorist attack!!!

[cbdo2007]

Where are the Rec's people, let's get this to the greatest page.

[SpiralHawk]

1. Republicons Whine & Fume in Shame and Frustration

"Why O why couldn't The Kenyan have FAILed the way Commander AWOL Bush failed America on 9/11? Why O why did Obama have to succeed in keeping America safe. This so sucks. We WANT America to fail. Whine. Fume. Whine."

- Republicons & TeaBagliCon, Inc. Suckerpuppet Subsidiary

[felinetta]

68. Can't you just hear Liz Cheney criticize him on the Sunday shows?

[Rosa Luxemburg]

100. Her Dad must be mad that Obama stopped his patsies

[Hekate]

106. Her Dad is in his Bunker again, the paranoid coward.

[kayakjohnny]

124. Ta-da!

[truedelphi]

2. Let me know when he stops the real terrorist attack -

The Big Bankers on the People.

[SammyWinstonJack]

4. +1

:thumbsup:

[Individualist]

6. +1

[ProSense]

11. Better

safe than sorry:

[cornermouse]

20. Declassified back in 2004...

And look. An actual link to the source that isn't blue.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/images/04/10/whitehouse.pdf

[leftstreet]

30. +1

[City Lights]

47. !

:thumbsup:

[KittyWampus]

53. all the people who've died in terror attacks- you have no shame, no decency. It's disgusting.

[Hekate]

104. It is disgusting. And it has a whole buncha DU friends applauding with +1

Christ on a trailer hitch.

[Kahuna]

159. +1, I agree that that comment was inappropriate to say the least. nt

[treestar]

161. +1

[Ticonderoga]

56. +1

[Codeine]

60. Aren't you just adorable?

:eyes:

[FailureToCommunicate]

99. I lost two friends on 9/11, but I get your point about bankers.

[truedelphi]

118. Really and truly, I had no intentions of hurting the feelings of anyone

Who lost precious family, co workers, and/or friends that day. My husband's best friend, her brother worked for a brokerage firm, and had he not skipped work that day, he'd have died at his 89th floor desk. (Every one but five other employees of his firm lost their lives that day.)

But like 67% of all New Yawkers, I don't believe the Official Conspiracy story: as until laws of physics are somehow changed, you know and I know that 100 story skyscrapers cannot fall to the ground inside the buildings' footprints in under twenty seconds.

I quit working on all my creative writing projects that day. As I knew that we were about to see the biggest take away in terms of Civil rights that any democracy has ever known, without that democracy having foreign troops come in and impose their will. I was as sick at heart over what I knew was coming in terms of wars that would be unending, and legislation with great sounding names like "Patriot Act" that would be occurring, and I knew that it would strengthen the presidency of a man I despised, George W Bush, just at a time when a lot of America was starting to wake up to the fact that his Administration was totally inadequate.

I grew up in an America where the Cold War warriors told us every night on the news that if we didn't have the will to resist communism, we would see our factories shut down, our jobs "disappeared," our fellow citizens become zombies believing endless propaganda, our schools' educational standards decline, our health care become totally inadequate et al. And I watched as our defense budget mushroomed out of sight. And then the Wall fell, we were told that we defeated communism. Yet somehow despite our banishing the Big Bad Boogie Monster of the 1950's and 1960's and '70's, we still have to be always afraid.

And despite our vanquishing of the Soviet Union, we still have witnessed: our factories shut down, our jobs "disappeared," our fellow citizens become zombies believing endless propaganda, our schools' educational standards decline, our health care become totally inadequate et al. Though that has happened from within and not from without.

But hey, at least we still have been provided with an endless supply of New Big Bad Boogie Men (And Women) to fear.

[reggie the dog]

125. you said it so well

it is so nice to see that i am not the only one who has this line of thought.... excellent! we saw similar signs.... the drug war was about to end in my opinon, traffic and blow were big hit movies, then bam...war on terrorism instead of the war on drugs as an excuse to take away our rights....

and i am with you the 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 buildings in the world trade center complex that fell into their own footprint simply from being on fire (tower 7 wasnt hit by a thing!)... i smelled the bullshit sept 11 2001..

[RoccoR5955]

134. I smelled it, not only with the WTC, but with the Pentagon

There are pictures of big reels of wire that are standing on end, still standing after the blast and crash at the Pentagon. What's more is there is no footprint from where the wings and engines hit the building. It smells funny to me. Always has, always will. I have yet for an explanation for this.

[HughBeaumont]

150. I was asking questions on that DAY.

Since then (and reading The Terror Timeline), I've never believed them and think it was all too much to be called a wholesale ball-dropping.

Not even the smarmy fucks at Popular Mechanics can spin the real news that was documented before, during and after that day into an on-the-level plausability. While it's pretty easy to shoot down the weirder, out-there theories, most of their "debunking" on actual documented events is just flimsy, "appeal to authority" garbage.

[RoccoR5955]

136. I grew up watching them build the WTC from my bedroom

I also went down there often to get electronics parts, before they closed all the electronics surplus places on Radio Row. Those massive steel beams were made to resist a fully fueled 727 from hitting it. FYI-- A fully fueled 727 has MORE fuel than the "planes" that hit the WTC.

Count me in that 72% of New Yorkers who do not believe the official report.

[FailureToCommunicate]

138. Understood. No problem. Of course you're correct about the enemy within

that has ruined the America we thought we were headed toward: one of rights for all and economic security and a beacon for the world...
That America was shanked during Reagan's Rein and has been slowly dying of it's wounds ever since, while the wealth Right wingers walk around whistling "I didn't see anything. Maybe it was them guys over there that caused it..."

[readmoreoften]

114. +1

[Enthusiast]

117. Oh, baby! nt

[HughBeaumont]

149. Plus a Billion.

Not diminishing the actions, but the real terrorists of this country aren't so covert and they wear 3000 dollar suits. And they need to be dealt with. NOW.

[mike_c]

154. +1

[malaise]

3. Hmmmmmmmmmmmm the RW media is already

screaming politics and 'little package'

Gibbs and Brennan on now - CSPan1.

[txaslftist]

33. Did he use any child soldiers to do it? That'd be a twofer!

[Kurovski]

79. I think some RWer somewhere is in trouble that it failed.

Saudi Arabia, isn't that where one of GWB's boyfriends live? The one he tip-toed through the Bluebonnets with?

[Arctic Dave]

5. Yes he did!

Next up on the list is the Financial Terrorist!

[cbdo2007]

167. Good answer!

[Lint Head]

7. Can you say October Surprise? I knew you could.

[ThatsMyBarack]

69. Is that Fred Rogers?

RIP

[cornermouse]

8. A couple of copy toner cartridges is a major attack?

If that's the worst they can throw at us I think its time do away with the terror alerts.

[cbdo2007]

29. Well....last time they just used some box cutters.

Of course, afterwards you always look back and see things a little differently.

[cornermouse]

32. Unless they had personnel on board, the toner cartridges

were nothing more than inanimate objects. There isn't any indication of using the plane itself as the attack weapon this time. Big difference.

[cbdo2007]

39. So you think the intent was to just mess up some printers??? What, to mess up some bank's quarterly

reports??!?!?!

Come on, you don't know what the intent was. That's the problem with stopping a terrorist attack BEFORE it happens is that it's really not that big of a deal. BUT once a Terrorist attack happens, it's WHY, WHY, WHY, WHY didn't we stop it????

If they had arrested the 9/11 guys at their flight schools, everyone would have said, "what's the worst they could have done? I'm sure nothing major, blah, blah blah."

[cornermouse]

41. Ridicule because I disagree. What a surprise.

Use your brain. n/t

[JJ]

42. appears to be an argument, not ridicule

[cbdo2007]

45. It's not ridicule, but all the people here acting like they know everything and exactly

how this was going to play out are the ones not using their brains.

There were explosives on board these planes and who knows how many others out there. We don't know the full attack details and their full terrorist itenerary, but it's safe to assume the worst. Let me guess, you're one of these guys after an attack happens that wonders why they didn't stop it sooner? That happened today. They stopped the attack before it happened. Plan thwarted.

You aren't disagreeing with me. You are acting like a terrorist attack wasn't stopped today, but the FACT is that it was.

[cornermouse]

48. This was a minor failed attack. Nothing less but nothing more either.

Read it again. Minor failed attack. "Acting like you know everything and exactly how this was going to play out"? Go look in your mirror.

[spanone]

63. you should alert the media & the white house, they appear concerned.

[dave29]

129. Wake up.

"The source close to the investigation said the type of material found in the devices was PETN, a highly explosive organic compound belonging to the same chemical family as nitroglycerin. Just six grams of PETN is enough to blow a hole in the fuselage of an aircraft.
PETN was allegedly one of the components of the bomb concealed by Umar Farouk AbdulMutallab, the Nigerian man accused of trying to set off an explosion aboard Northwest Airlines Flight 253 as it approached Detroit, Michigan, on December 25. AbdulMutallab is alleged to have been carrying 80 grams of PETN in that botched attack -- also believed to be the workings of al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula.
By comparison, the source said the two devices found Friday contained multiple times more PETN. The source also said it appears the devices were designed to be detonated by a cell phone with the help of a smaller amount of a second unidentified explosive substance."

http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/10/29/security.concern/index.html?hpt=T1

[FailureToCommunicate]

146. Terrorism experts are saying this could well have been distraction or dry run to

see how they might be detected.
Like the Borg they WILL adapt. (The terrorists, not the experts necessarily)

[rainlillie]

139. Thanks for your commonsense repsonse.

[humbled_opinion]

75. Maybe they found a way to mass spread

Anthrax through the copier toner? I mean people handle printed pages all the time... hmmmmmm

[ProudDad]

67. And demolition charges in the Wolrd Trade Towers 1, 2 AND 7 (n/t)

[AtheistCrusader]

44. Looks like it may have been a 'flooding' attack.

Couple real ones, bunch of fake.

[saras]

62. DOS?

Good thing the attackers aren't up on Internet protocols for attacks. A denial-of-service attack wouldn't require ANY real explosives.

On the other hand, the Trojan thing was figured out some 2000 years ago...

[AtheistCrusader]

70. Actually DOS is an apt analogy.

Shut down air freight, or make it prohibitively expensive with additional screening.

[dave29]

101. yeah it's cool if a synagogue gets blown up

or some Rabbi loses an arm... what have the Jews done that's good anyways, right?

wake up. There are any number of bad things that can happen when planes and explosives are involved, none of them good, even when they get off the plane.

[Hekate]

108. Right. What usually happens with letter/package bombs is the secretary gets maimed

[dave29]

128. The explosive involved was PETN.

"multiple times" more than the underwear bomber had on him, he had 80 grams. Only 6 grams is required to blow a hole in the fuselage of an aircraft. This would have done more than harm a secretary.


http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/10/29/security.concern/index.html?hpt=T1

The source close to the investigation said the type of material found in the devices was PETN, a highly explosive organic compound belonging to the same chemical family as nitroglycerin. Just six grams of PETN is enough to blow a hole in the fuselage of an aircraft.
PETN was allegedly one of the components of the bomb concealed by Umar Farouk AbdulMutallab, the Nigerian man accused of trying to set off an explosion aboard Northwest Airlines Flight 253 as it approached Detroit, Michigan, on December 25. AbdulMutallab is alleged to have been carrying 80 grams of PETN in that botched attack -- also believed to be the workings of al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula.
By comparison, the source said the two devices found Friday contained multiple times more PETN. The source also said it appears the devices were designed to be detonated by a cell phone with the help of a smaller amount of a second unidentified explosive substance.

[slackmaster]

153. You should see what a little of that powdered toner can do to a nice white suit

:nuke:

[Fuzz]

9. Lies. I was just at FR and they were saying Obama planned it all.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2617272/posts

I’m skeptical of the timing of this ‘threat’. Obama’s serious on Jon Stewart’s comedy show earlier this week, his 3AM phone call comes in alas on the Friday before mid-terms, he’s holding a press conference perfectly timed for the evening news the Friday before mid-terms; and yet the stock market is flat or up a tick the Friday before mid-terms.

6 posted on Friday, October 29, 2010 4:07:26 PM by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)

To: Oldeconomybuyer

Obama is sending a pre-election message to the Jewish voters. The packages were addressed to synagogues.

7 posted on Friday, October 29, 2010 4:11:48 PM by jimbo123

To: jimbo123

If Obama knew about these threats last night at 10:35 EST, why were these planes even allowed to enter our airspace today??


9 posted on Friday, October 29, 2010 4:20:28 PM by Raebie

To: jimbo123

I just heard on the news that one of the devices found was a toner cartridge with wires attached.

Can’t help but wonder if Boxer will blame Carly Fiorina for this device, given her previous affiliation with HP???

13 posted on Friday, October 29, 2010 4:27:59 PM by ssaftler ("Politically Correct" is neither!)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2617296/posts



This is from the ‘playbook’ of the lefties. Distract, Distract, Distract...and maybe inject some fear and keep people from going to the polls (which will only work on limp wrsts btw).

2 posted on Friday, October 29, 2010 4:19:26 PM by Outlaw Woman (If you try to remove the 1st Amendment, we'll just have to move on to the next Amendment)

To: combat_boots

This reaks of wag the dog. Nothing happened, but BHO has to give a speech? Since when does a president use the occasion of suspicious packages to give a speech? Since when does a plane with parcels from Yemen get fighter plane escorts? This all stinks to high heaven and I’m the least conspiratorial guy on FR.

4 posted on Friday, October 29, 2010 4:30:15 PM by MissesBush (Stay angry--right through November)

[malaise]

10. Viquiera was spinning that view for them

earlier on GEM$NBC

[spanone]

14. that fucker has got to go...his bias is always showing

[Subdivisions]

21. I hate that motherfucker!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9406710

[SargeUNN]

36. don't have to go to THEIR sites just look at this thread

You will see the same thing.

[Hekate]

109. No sh-- uh, no kidding. What a display.

[Dawson Leery]

54. Anyone who dare suggest this about Bush

was violently shouted down and condemned. Now it is alright to have these thoughts now that a Democrat is in power.

[texastoast]

55. Oh the whiner freeps

They would have their noses so far up *'s butt if it were * who had done this.

They make me sick.

[Fire1]

12. Don't know the details but K&R

[leveymg]

13. Just like he swam down to the bottom of the Gulf and plugged the leak with his Aqua Buddha powers

[txaslftist]

35. LOL

[tabasco]

127. That's what some peope expected him to do.

Like you.

[leveymg]

141. No, but I would like to see BP and Halliburton prosecuted. Is that too much to expect?

You can't find a single post where I said Obama was responsible for either the slow progress in plugging the blowout or in the cleanup. What I have said, however, is that the oil spill estimates cited by the gov't tended to reflect inaccurate information conveyed by BP, and that executives of that company and Halliburton should be criminally prosecuted, and if convicted, both companies' assets seized.

I do fault the Administration for not being more aggressive in imposing accountability for major corporate crimes, such as this.

More on point, I commend the Obama White House for allowing the intelligence services to arrest or foil would-be terrorists before they kill lots of people, unlike its predecessor, who told CIA briefers, "Okay, you've covered your ass." when informed that "spectacular" attacks by air hijackers on "landmark buildings" in NYC and DC was imminent.

I do fault Obama for not imposing accountability for that crime, as well.

[Enrique]

133. Aqua Buddha

:spray:

[Barack_America]

15. Major? Listen, they deserve props for stopping these packages, but...

...we need to keep this in perspective, this was not a major attack.

[cornermouse]

16. Exactly.

[ProSense]

18. Well,

Better safe than sorry



No one wants to hear the MSM screaming "Obama's 9/11" or "Obama's Katrina."

And no one wants to witness the pile-on.

[cornermouse]

22. Again. Declassified back in 2004

And look. An actual link to the source that isn't blue.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/images/04/10/whitehouse.pdf

[leveymg]

24. Actually, that PDB was read to Bush on August 6, 2001.

Dubya apparently didn't get it. Maybe, he did.

[ProSense]

25. I hate to tell you this, but

your link is blue.

OMG!

:rofl:

[cornermouse]

27. Actually mine is sort of lavendar.

I guess because I posted it?

I am happy they stopped it, but let's be honest and not try to inflate it into a major attack when it is not.

[Barack_America]

23. Where did I say they should have let these packages go on their merry way?

Of course you address it, but it does no good to mischaracterize it as a "major" attack.

[cbdo2007]

31. Of course it wasn't a major attack - he stopped it. You can't assume what we don't know...

and this could have been major had he not stopped it.

[Barack_America]

34. Then shouldn't you change the title of this thread?

FYI, it never had the possibility of being a major attack.

[cbdo2007]

38. You don't consider a few planes blowing up to be a major terrorist attack?

Get over yourself. You know this had the possibility of being major and Obama saved the day. Give him some props. He did much better than Bush did protecting us from Al Queda

[cornermouse]

40. The cartridges were addressed to Jewish synagogues or centers.

If they had simply blown up the plane before landing, the Jewish synagogues would never have received what appears to be intended as a message specially directed to them. So, no. It was not a major attack.

[cbdo2007]

46. Ok....so blowing up a few Jewish synagogues would not be considered a terrorist attack to you??

[cornermouse]

50. That's not what I said either. Read what I said.

And oh yeah. Bye.

[Barack_America]

52. There's no evidence that the intent was to blow up planes.

Reports so far are that they aren't sure how these packages were intended to be detonated, if they even could be at all.

Listen, if you want to compare this to attacks like 9/11, go ahead. Personally, I think it's unfair to do so.

It doesn't detract from the accomplishment to call this for what it is, the successful prevention of a small but real terrorist attack.

[HopeHoops]

17. I'm POSITIVE that will be the lead headline and story on FOX Noise tonight.

:sarcasm:

[RobertSeattle]

19. 4 Times Safer than GW (!)

1/20/2001 - 9/11/2001 234 days
1/20/2008 - 10/29/2010 - 1013days

Yep, Obama has kept us 4x safer than GWB! :-)

[Glimmer of Hope]

71. Someone is more competent!

[Bitwit1234]

26. I can't believe this...Rep King from New York praised

everyone, and that was everyone involved in this and said people could be assured that they did everything to protect us.....CAN YOU BELIEVE THAT...............

[nadinbrzezinski]

37. Hell just froze

[Subdivisions]

28. Some dumbass just asked Gibbs if this is a stunt used to sway the

elections toward Democrats.

These people are fucking ate up with the stupid.

[Hekate]

103. I hope Gibbs never calls on him again

[DesertFlower]

43. K&R. nt

[AsahinaKimi]

49. YAY!!!!!!

[Lucian]

51. What major terrorist attack?

There wasn't a major attack. There was no threat of a major attack. What happened on 9/11 was a major attack. All they stopped were two packages with toner cartridges with wire. Hardly enough for a major attack.

[Ticonderoga]

57. And......

don't leave out the best part....the "apparent" explosive materials.

[veganlush]

59. and had they stopped atta and company...

..it would have really been a nothing-burger, imagine, a few box cutters and that's it. I guess you're probably kidding, or just trying to piss people off, but come on, who's to say the packages weren't detonatable with a cellphone or something, to bring down a plane over a populated area?

[Barack_America]

72. And who's to say that the packages were capable of taking down an airplane...

...over a heavily populated area, and of being remotely detonated to do so?

The goal of terrorism is disruption and fear. If we allow ourselves to get in the habit of assuming these incidents to be more dangerous than they are, the terrorists win.

This may turn out to be a "major" terrorist attack that was thwarted, but for now there's no evidence to suggest it was.

[treestar]

162. even if it killed only one person, I think this country would have considered

it "major." Stop trying to downplay this.

[Lucian]

84. I think this country is getting way too carried away with terrorism.

We're starting to get scared at the littlest things.

I want to order an archaeology book from Egypt. How much do you think the post office is going to freak out because *gasp* a package is coming from Egypt?

[Number23]

58. This was breaking news all over the world. It was breaking news here in Australia

So the idiots in this thread saying this is "no big deal" continue to proudly display their stupidity. If those devices had reached those synagogues and lives had been lost, I bet the same fools saying this was "no big deal" would be the FIRST ones wondering why the President didn't do anything to stop this.

I do believe that props go more to police and transportation officials than to the President for stopping this particular event so I'm happy to kick and rec this thread for them for a job well done.

[Codeine]

61. A big-ass chunk of DU doesn't even believe terrorists exist.

There's some seriously pretzeled-up logic around here on occasion.

[Number23]

64. I know. And sometimes it is truly embarrassing. This is one of those times.

[Name removed]

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[24601]

94. Your support of our troops and vets is truly touching. And that's

also a major slam on President Obama's political appointees who actually run the place. But I suppose you have you reasons for running down this administration.

[Donald Ian Rankin]

122. Way to prove the point you were replying to...

No, there are a great many terrorists a hell of a lot worse than the US military.

[malaise]

126. +1,000 n/t

[skepticscott]

137. See my post 135 below

There was no "event" to stop. There is no way these "devices" were intended to bomb synagogues. The whole thing just doesn't make sense.

[treestar]

163. +1

Amen to your first paragraph especially.

[BumRushDaShow]

66. This just in - PETN likely used.

Maybe that will temporarily knock the M@M RW shilling off the air for a bit.

[Hekate]

111. It's not shutting up the DUers who believe: 1) Obama did nothing, 2) if he did, it was politically

... motivated, 3) this attempt was a big fat nothing and only a few American Jews would have been maimed or killed, etc etc etc.

I need something for my nausea now.

Hekate
:argh:

[Politicub]

73. +1! President Obama's way of running the intelligence agencies creates results

:kick:

[muriel_volestrangler]

74. Well, Dubai and East Midlands Airports stop terrorist attacks after Saudi tipoff

Major or minor depends on whether the packages were large enough to crash the planes, I'd have thought. Is that established yet?

On edit: Oops, they were addressed to a synagogue, so I guess they were designed to explode there, not in the planes. So I guess the major/minor adjective depends on the damage they could have done in a building. Enough to kill the person opening them, I presume, but may or may not be 'major'.

[Grown2Hate]

76. Man, just 4 days before an election and even we at DU can't spin THIS into a positive.

All of the replies INSISTING that this was NOT ever, at any point, in any way shape or form, ever ANYTHING approaching something that could POSSIBLY be considered something resembling a "major attack" are already doing the M$M's job for them. As pointed out up-thread, if we had caught a few guys trying to get on planes with box cutters, you could have thought, "Well, whoopdy-fucking-do! What REAL damage can you do with BOX cutters?!". Can't we EVER just accept a WIN and be done with it? If this happens to sway ONE fucking vote to a Democrat this cycle, I'm thrilled. FUCK the TeaBaggers. K&R

[Hekate]

112. Do you think DU is infested with fleas or something? It's like an itch they gotta scratch...

... or something. :eyes:

[lobodons]

77. How dare Obama outsource our National Defense!!

Details at 10:00 on FAUX NOISE!!

[jillan]

Thank goodness Obama is in the Whitehouse.... if McCain won in '08

we'd be bombing Yemen tonite.

[Hekate]

113. Nah, he'd be bombing Iran

[Kurovski]

78. I can't resist

But I'm sick of hearing all the non-news about it.

Do you think any Pubbies will vote Obama since he's our brave protector? will they have any gratitude at all?

[Grown2Hate]

80. Certainly NOT. But the independents seem pretty easily swayed by the wind... NT

[Kurovski]

81. Good enough. nt

[Grown2Hate]

82. Precisely. If it sways ONE vote, ONE race, that's enough for me. NT

[cbdo2007]

90. maybe not now - but this could be absolutely PRICELESS in 2012

of the issues against Obama in 2008, two of the biggest were that he didn't have enough experience and that he wouldn't be able to defend us against Terrorism.

Those two issues are competely off the table for 2012.

[Kurovski]

93. This admin seems to be ultra-alert and working very hard

there have been a good number of successes on that front.

[jeanpalmer]

83. With his drone attacks

and war escalation he has incited more violence and hatred of America than anyone since George Bush. Once he creates a terrorist, he gets credit for stopping him?

[spooked911]

86. that's a big part of the game

I'm afraid

[TheWatcher]

85. CNN Reported Earlier that None of the "suspicious" materials found tested positive for explosives.

What exactly did he stop?

Negligent Recycling?

Littering?

Failure to dispose of used electronics properly?

To GITMO!

[rainlillie]

88. CNN=is just as credible as Faux News.

[TheWatcher]

98. Look, I realize that you desperately want this Victory over Dr. Evil to be true

And hide under your bed in fear as you are told, but they aren't the only ones reporting that.

No explosives were found, nothing tested positive.

This is the same fear-mongering bullshit we've been subjected to by the previous dictatorship.

But I do understand, when our "Football Team" does it, it's Rah! Rah! USA! USA! Fight Them Towelheads!

"We should be afraid of the bogeyman when our guy tells us to."

Let the thumb-sucking, pant-wetting fear commence.

Shall we stock up on Duct Tape for the Election, and keep an eye out for Suspicious going's on at the Local Kinko's?

:eyes:

[rainlillie]

119. I'm from New York..

I'm not one to run and hide. In any case, I'm just glad no innocent people were killed. Obama isn't telling anyone to be afraid. Duct tape not a good idea , but we should be vigilant.

[dave29]

130. PETN

CNN did not have the info yet.


http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/10/29/security.concern/index.html?hpt=T1

The source close to the investigation said the type of material found in the devices was PETN, a highly explosive organic compound belonging to the same chemical family as nitroglycerin. Just six grams of PETN is enough to blow a hole in the fuselage of an aircraft.
PETN was allegedly one of the components of the bomb concealed by Umar Farouk AbdulMutallab, the Nigerian man accused of trying to set off an explosion aboard Northwest Airlines Flight 253 as it approached Detroit, Michigan, on December 25. AbdulMutallab is alleged to have been carrying 80 grams of PETN in that botched attack -- also believed to be the workings of al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula.
By comparison, the source said the two devices found Friday contained multiple times more PETN. The source also said it appears the devices were designed to be detonated by a cell phone with the help of a smaller amount of a second unidentified explosive substance.

[rainlillie]

87. Here's s a rec for you!

[rug]

89. Faster than a speeding bullet . . .

[PatrynXX]

91. So where's Liz Cheney?

nah. reading some McCarthy book no doubt

[Hekate]

110. In the Bunker with Daddy?

:shrug:

[derby378]

92. And in other news, the TSA gets to sexually molest you now

I feel safer already...

[Divine Discontent]

95. He should be hailed by Faux for this if they weren't such evil bastards! Now, on to him stopping the

banksters!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[sally cat]

96. The President took it seriously and I think we should too.

[rainlillie]

120. If I were on the plane I would have wanted this incident to be handle exactly the way it was handled

Who knew we had so many people working for the government posting on this thread. They must be right, because they have inside info that it wasn't a credible threat.

[Blue Owl]

97. Republicans don't care about safety

only the possibility of FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR and more FEAR...

[Hekate]

102. Handled calmly, thoroughly, & in advance of the attack. Message: "Carry on with your lives, people

... because POTUS and VPOTUS are going to be out in the open carrying on with theirs."

Remember Bunker Boy? Remember "Be afraid, very afraid"? Remember Bush leaning over his podium getting practically orgasmic at the thought of revenge-killings?

Dear gods, what a difference.

Hekate

[KeyserSoze87]

105. Obama has saved us from another terrorist attack.

Unlike another president that everyone seems to have forgotten about...

[Name removed]

107. Deleted message

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[oswaldactedalone]

115. Great thanks to the security people and

undercover operatives who exposed this plot. They're doing fantasic and underappreciated work so here's to all of you!

[awoke_in_2003]

116. terra, terra...

fuck it- said the same shit when dumbya was the president- keep the people scared and they will voluntarily BOHICA

[rainlillie]

121. Should he have ignored this? You have no idea what info the president had..

I'm a liberal and was against the war in Iraq, but I'm smart enough to realize that there are terrorist who would like to kill innocent people, Americans included. What would you be posting right now if the plane blew up, because Obama didn't act? Just be happy that there was no loss of life.

[TheWatcher]

132. Delete.

There is no point.

[awoke_in_2003]

151. and the fact that it is always...

around election time is just a big coincidence?

[Donald Ian Rankin]

142. Because, of course, intercepting explosives is a political act

and nothing to do with wanting people not to be blown up, right?

Yes, terrorism alerts may sometimes be overused. But in this case there is proof positive that the weren't, in the form of actual bombs.

[rainlillie]

164. ITA!

[prodigals0n]

143. Worldwide Services -- Synchronizing the World of ???

I saw a photo in the paper this morning. I know the airplane said:

"Worldwide Services
Synchronizing the world of commerce"

And the caption read:

"Authorities respond to the United Parcel Service staging area at Newark Liberty International Airport where a cargo plane was
searched and a suspicious package removed yesterday"

But for some reason I saw this:



I really don't care if it's the same shit we got when dumbya was president as long as it works as well for the Democrats as it did for the Republicans AND GETS DEMOCRATS OFF THEIR ASSES OUT TO VOTE ON TUESDAY.

[denpat1]

123. bump

[stuart68]

131. Uh, no. Hate to dampen your enthusiasm...

but the Saudis passed us a tip and UPS can track a package to the specific spot in the cargo hold. We actually did very little to avert this other than take credit.

[rainlillie]

140. I'm glad everyone worked to together and no one was hurt. I'm also glad

The Obama admin didn't ignore the threat.

[stuart68]

157. Didn't ignore the threat ?

That's like saying "I'm glad he showed up for work today..."

[Kahuna]

160. Um...Excuse me...HEL-LO!!! But unlike bushco, we actually ACTED ON

the tip we got from the Saudis. :eyes:

[stuart68]

165. Uh, yeah, someone looked up a package tracking number...

Just because someone is less crappy than someone, doesn't make them good.

Anyone who thinks this was a good performance probably agreed with Janet's assessment that everything worked as planned with the underwear bomber...

[skepticscott]

135. Sorry, but this was not a major terrorist attack

The whole thing just doesn't make sense. Who would send packages with small amounts of explosives not even rigged to explode all the way from England and Dubai to Jewish synagogues in this country? What the heck was supposed to happen to them then? Were the "terrorists" going to pop by Temple and ask if their bombs had arrived yet? If someone really wanted to bomb a synagogue, it wouldn't be that hard to do with materials they could easily get here, and with much less risk of detection.

This is one of three things: A) A lame stunt by some bored Muslim teenage wannabe terrorists; B) A staged event by the governments of the United States and/or Israel, to keep people scared; or C) An attempt by actual terrorists to gauge air cargo security. In the latter case, the high profile given to this incident has done nothing but aid them.

[keepCAblue]

144. Yeah sure, and it's just a *coincidence* this happens just before a major election...

Funny. Seems like this kind of "Terra! Terra!" was always rolled out just before big elections when W was prez, and most of us here at DU were smart enough to see through the transparent attempt to influence an election. But this time, because it's Obama, everyone seems blinded to the possibility that O's admin is wagging the dog by the same, tired old tail that Bush/Cheney/Rove did.

[ecstatic]

145. Obama's platform is not mainly focused on national security

So it doesn't follow that he would try to use a fake attack to drum up fear. If anything, an attack empowers repugs so your tinfoil point makes no sense.

[whatchamacallit]

147. Have a look at this. Ironically, posted yesterday as well

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x520394

Don't let fear blind you.

[Shrader]

148. Awesome n/t

[Cha]

152. Any terrorist attack is major to those who

would suffer from the consequences. I'm glad the US was on this and continue to be ever vigilant against the assholes who would like nothing better than to blow up people because they can.

[cbdo2007]

166. Yep, Obama is looking out for all of us - not just himself.

He did a great job here protecting us and he will be rewarded in 2012.

[Flatulo]

155. I wonder how this helps the Republicans?

Because as everyone knows, there are no real terrorists and everything bad is plotted by Cheney and is just a false flag operation so that Bush can yell Terra Terra Terra and take away all our rights and steal our Precious Bodily Fluids.

[GreenTea]

156. But Bush needed to be "a war time president" - So let it happen.....

[German]

158. Same procedeur?

Hear Olbermann on"The Nexus of Politics and Terror"