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Sun Oct-31-10 12:58 AM
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Now we've restored sanity...what 'reasonable compromises' are we willing to make? |
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As Jon Stewart said, "We work together to get things done every damn day!"
So what things are we willing to work on with those who may not see eye-to-eye with us?
How much compromise are we going to make?
Stewart said, "Most Americans don’t live their lives solely as Democrats, Republicans, liberals or conservatives." Is that true of you? How are you willing to get on the Peace Train (or Love Train) with Republicans or conservatives? How far down the line will you ride with them?
After the last ten years we've gone through, how much "working together" do you expect from the other side?
In other words, will anything change?
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Sun Oct-31-10 01:01 AM
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sane proposals to consider
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Sun Oct-31-10 01:04 AM
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2. Really hard to compromise when the only thing the other side |
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Sun Oct-31-10 01:14 AM
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6. True. What is something they would say "Yes" to? |
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Sun Oct-31-10 02:01 AM
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13. It would depend on what they feel needs to fixed in this country |
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They really do not say, except to cut everything except their salaries, their pension, their perks. If everyone is hurting in this country then they need to share in that hurt for they passed the crap that is hurting us.
What is important to the republicans?? They think that if tax cuts for the rich will create jobs then get some guarantees. If no jobs then taxes on the rich go up with them paying penalties. Obama should put on the table tax rates pre reagan and then go from there. Don't start from the middle and then work down from there. Put military on the table. Make federal pensions means tested. Cut congressional and admin salaries.
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Sun Oct-31-10 08:54 AM
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23. "Make federal pensions means tested?" |
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I know you spent thirty years in the Army and numerous tours in Iraq and Afghanistan, but you invested your military pay in the stock market and hit a home run, so you don't get your military pension.
If you had invested your military pay in houses and lots (whore houses and lots of whiskey), you would get the full military pension.
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Sun Oct-31-10 10:34 AM
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34. I was talking about pensions for Congress and Admin |
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Right now 47% of Congress are millionairs
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Sun Oct-31-10 07:07 AM
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Sun Oct-31-10 01:08 AM
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you can't be expected to work with a one month old pumpkin ass, large forehead with one eye person.. so no compromise from me until at least Repukes lose that pumpkin on (or up) their ass.... My motto with these Repukes: you first....
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Sun Oct-31-10 01:14 AM
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5. You missed the point of the pumpkin ass analogy. |
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Sun Oct-31-10 10:06 AM
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30. Maybe not calling them "Repukes" would be a nice compromise. |
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Sun Oct-31-10 01:10 AM
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4. He has actually criticized |
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Edited on Sun Oct-31-10 01:41 AM by tabatha
Obama and Democrats for actually compromising. So there is a bit of hypocrisy there.
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Sun Oct-31-10 01:23 AM
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8. It is not sane to compromise with people who refuse to negotiate |
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So I don't see any hypocrisy. Now, if Obama had kept hammering home the fact that he did try to compromising and repeatedly tried to work with the Republicans, even incorporating some of their ideas into the bills that the Republicans then voted against, I would have been happier. But Obama and the Democratic Party have let the Republicans have a free pass on their obstructionism.
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Sun Oct-31-10 01:42 AM
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11. Yeah, I guess the compromise has been one-sided. |
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Sun Oct-31-10 08:48 AM
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22. "Anybody else want to negotiate?" |
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The classic line in The Fifth Element.
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Sun Oct-31-10 01:22 AM
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7. I kind of took liberties.. |
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Edited on Sun Oct-31-10 01:29 AM by AmericanMan1958
I understand what should and needs to be done.. But there where parts in bills that Repukes proposed. Then they voted against them anyway.. That's my point and how do you work with that.
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Sun Oct-31-10 01:26 AM
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9. I'm willing to let Meg Whitman return to Atherton in defeat on Nov. 2nd without causing a scene... |
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...and Carly Fiorina can crawl back under her rock, with my blessings.
:grouphug:
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Sun Oct-31-10 01:27 AM
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10. We shouldn't negotiate with domestic terrorists. n/t |
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Sun Oct-31-10 01:48 AM
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12. How dare you suggest that! |
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Sun Oct-31-10 05:57 AM
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14. You could see things like the Health Insurance Reform,NAFTA, Welffare Reform |
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Etc -- it's essentially a call to get dems to move right and republicans to Show them how.
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Sun Oct-31-10 06:48 AM
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15. The first 2 years of this administration was nothing but compromise - |
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I'd personally like to see some fighting back.
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Sun Oct-31-10 07:05 AM
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16. I agree. I think he was telling the repukes it's time for them to compromise. |
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Sun Oct-31-10 07:36 AM
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Sun Oct-31-10 08:44 AM
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19. The current administration .. |
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.. has "compromised" itself into being almost irrelevant. In case you haven't noticed, even after giving up virtually everything the people VOTED the Dems in to do, the Regressive still said NO. Sorry, I'm not up for a chorus of Kum-bi-ya or making any more shitty "compromises." Unrec.
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Sun Oct-31-10 08:47 AM
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How many people who laughed and cheered asked the same? Not many I would venture. Too many, I would think, feel they made a point and can just go on with their lives. I doubt anything will change from this, except more might feel like they are "activists" now...and do nothing more...oooh except maybe vote!! (Just like the One Nation March).
The necessary "compromises" will never be considered by those who hold the reins...
Until we all realize that the haves do not want to give an inch, and from that knowledge we start to demand our rights and needs, there will be little change (unless the rising number of deaths from lack of housing, lack of health care, poisoning from environmental damage, etc. can be called change...).
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Sun Oct-31-10 08:47 AM
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21. your post presumes that we are not already making reasonable compromises |
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and I disagree with that premise.
Look at the "Cap and Trade" Bill. It is more than just moderate. We compromised that thing to the point where it boarders on being worthless and still we can't get past the filibuster threat from the right.
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Sun Oct-31-10 08:55 AM
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24. Not shit, "compromised" out. That happens when one side gives and gives |
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and the other side gets credit for their kind gifts of a couple banana peels and a giant anvil.
I don't even grasp the audacity to ask for a compromise from those of us that have been told to suck ass and eat farts for a generation.
What will we give? What the fuck do you think is left? Is compromise I give up one kidney rather than two for the wealthy?
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Sun Oct-31-10 08:57 AM
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25. Nothing will change as long as |
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we put far more effort into villifying each other instead of looking for ways to promote more reasonable dialog. Stewart deserves a lot of credit for trying.
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Sun Oct-31-10 09:06 AM
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26. I don't know, since we have bent over the last 1,000 times... |
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I think it is their turn.
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Sun Oct-31-10 09:12 AM
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27. No. You can only compromise |
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if someone is willing to compromise with you. The Rethug party will NOT compromise with anything we propose as long as Obama is in the White House. Period.
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Sun Oct-31-10 09:22 AM
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28. I would be willing to permit standardized tests to be filled in with a Number Three lead pencil |
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I know some will call me a traitor, but someone needs to proffer the first olive branch.
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Sun Oct-31-10 09:55 AM
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29. That's why I consider Stewart's political analysis worthless. It's just a bunch of platitudes... |
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that don't address the actual situation.
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Sun Oct-31-10 10:08 AM
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31. Well and succinctly put |
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Sun Oct-31-10 10:09 AM
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Edited on Sun Oct-31-10 10:11 AM by AsahinaKimi
The Republicans, and Tea baggers look at that rally and point to it on the Fox Network TV, and say to themselves.. what a bunch of "Morans!". While this rally might have made us feel good, it didn't touch the other side of the aisle. They are as far from us as we were as far from those people standing at the Glenn Beck Rally. Frankly, I don't think there will ever be any compromise. Its their way or the highway!
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Sun Oct-31-10 10:14 AM
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on what's acceptable behavior.
Compromise wasn't necessarily the message I took away from his speech, as much as not tolerating the spirit of compromise that would lead to the discussions we need to solve our problems.
We need to shame people who are dishonest in their arguments, not by addressing what they say at all, but calling them out on their divisive rhetoric.
Right now, it's socially acceptable to be pigheaded. The media encourages and rewards this behavior. We have to put our collective food down.
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