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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 07:14 PM
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Democrats have funded the war for four more months.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070522/pl_nm/iraq_usa_funding_dc

Pennsylvania Democratic Rep. John Murtha (news, bio, voting record) has led efforts in the House of Representatives to end U.S. combat in the Iraq war. In July, Murtha will shepherd a military funding bill through the House for the next fiscal year, starting October 1.

Bush and most Republicans have argued that setting dates for withdrawing U.S. troops would rob military commanders of the flexibility they need to conduct the war.

Despite those charges, even some congressional Republicans, Boehner among them, have spoken of autumn as the timeframe for reassessing progress in Iraq and possibly producing "Plan B."

Under the Democrats' latest strategy, the war funding bill will pay for combat in Iraq and Afghanistan through September. Aides said there would be benchmarks for measuring Iraq's progress toward stability and setting up a competent army.


Republicans are posturing, and I'm not buying it. Chill........... ;)
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Fredda Weinberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 07:16 PM
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1. Excellent. They avoided the tar baby
This is still Bush's war - and round two will come just as GOP lawmakers are planning re-election campaigns.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 07:18 PM
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2. And, we'll have Murtha introducing a bill with a timeline at a time when
"failure" of the surge can no longer be denied. :hi:
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koopie57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 07:31 PM
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6. Help me please?
I have called my congress representatives only once or twice cuz I'm pretty shy and stuff like that is hard for me. But I need to get over that as speaking out is the least I can do for the soldiers.

I need to know the best way to ask the democrats to please stop caving in to this president. Do I e-mail, or call and leave messages?

How do I phrase my words so they will be more effective?

It is tempting to give up as this is the last straw, but I keep telling myself that our soldiers and their families don't have the luxury of giving up. They need us to do what they can't.

I heard on tv that the dems have no choice but to give in. No, they were too cowardly or lazy but they did have a choice.
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Fredda Weinberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 07:42 PM
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13. I got results when I invested in the system
Nothing gets a politician's attention like a reminder that you were there when they needed you. Calling, writing or emailing now will only get you counted ... but volunteering for a campaign earns respect.

That said, do whatever you can to ease your conscience.
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koopie57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 07:57 PM
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14. my husband went to many fundraisers
and this year he is going to go door to door and phone call for Al Franken's campaign. I will stuff envelopes, or type or do something were I can keep a lower profile.

I have no right to give up until I try to make a difference and I really have not done my part.

Thank you Fredda.
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Fredda Weinberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 08:31 PM
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17. Good for you! Now mention those facts
It's the language they understand - the coin of the realm. Even cash can't substitute for feet on the ground.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 07:26 PM
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3. Right. Only 4 more months of senseless dying
Silly me. Why was I so angry? :sarcasm:
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 07:27 PM
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4. Oh you thought that Democrats could somehow end the war tomorrow?
I guess I'd be angry too if I was under the misperception.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 07:29 PM
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5. senseless dying is right, just tonite on PBS they showed
14 more troops that died. I hate this all for this stupid fratboy who just does not give a shit about anything, what a poor excuse of a person. He is probably strutting tonite, saying how great he is. ugh.
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mrcheerful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 07:32 PM
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7. So in another words shrub didn't get a blank check as he wanted, he got a check with a memo
if your surge fails again we will be back. This is your war shrub, deal with it. I was getting depressed with all this anti democratic talk going on and was under the impression that shrub got another blank check to continue as long as he held office. Don't these people get it? The pukes blamed the democrats for losing the vietnam war because they pulled funding from Nixon. But then I forgot that most posting the doom and gloom stuff weren't old enough to remember how pukes used that against us since 1979. Remember Reagan's, I'm not a weak democrat speech when talking about freeing the Iranian hostages in 1979? Those darn democrats lost the vietnam war because they lacked the back bone to fund the war and gave the money for the war to welfare queens. Stupid is as stupid does.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 07:36 PM
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10. Exactly!
Great points.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 07:33 PM
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8. The Democratic "leadership" is getting very adept at crooning "Tomorrow, tomorrow..."
With a bit of "There'll be pie in the sky when you die" for the sake of harmony.

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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 07:35 PM
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9. Bush vetoed attempts for a deadline and we didn't have the votes
to override. That's the reality.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 07:38 PM
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12. The reality is that more people are going to die because the Dems keep "compromising" with Bush.
And, now to avoid a veto, they're continuing to fund the slaughter.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 08:05 PM
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15. Unfortunately he's the President.
We're not compromising with him, we're faced with the fact that Bush has veto authority and has used it, and we don't have enough votes to override it. What we have to do is address this when the surge failure is apparent and Republicans can't deny it.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 08:10 PM
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16. Impeach Gonzo, then start impeachment against Cheney. W. will change his tune.
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mrcheerful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 07:37 PM
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11. As history has shown over and over and over, it only takes one bullet to start a war
it takes forever to stop the war once its started. Read history, learn from history and maybe one day people will understand that the best way to stop wars is by not firing that first bullet.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 10:15 PM
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18. .
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