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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 07:16 PM
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Poll question: Your mood after today's news from our Democratic Leaders?
Edited on Tue May-22-07 07:21 PM by Philosoraptor
You anti war folks, you bush haters, you grass roots Democrats, you supporters of the Democratic party, you poll workers, you contributors, you fighters and protesters, how do you feel after hearing Tuesday's news?

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/05/22/war.funding/index.html
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 07:19 PM
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1. I've been a cynic for a long time..and fully expected the "leaders" to cave.
Politics as usual..as usual..as usual..as usual.
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 09:39 PM
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30. Same here.
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 07:19 PM
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2. But hey, we have fought the good fight to keep our powder dry.
Once again.

Actually, I'm beyond anger. I'm in shock.
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 07:20 PM
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3. Your poll needs another option: "Totally pissed, but not the least bit surprised."
That one would have my vote.

sw
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 07:22 PM
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4. Done did it.
And I appreciate the amendment, and the amendment stands.
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 07:27 PM
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6. Thank you! And I have now voted as promised -- as have 2 others, I see.
Edited on Tue May-22-07 07:28 PM by scarletwoman
I'm immune to disappointment, since my expectations are so low to begin with.

sw

edited to note that it's 3 others, now... :)
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 09:45 PM
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35. 39 of us now at 10:41 EST. (kick)
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NavyDavy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 07:24 PM
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5. compromise is part of politics....and why give the repukes more ammo
by attacking the leadership.....yeah they did not do everything they should have done, but they have done 100% better job than the repukes
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Miss Chybil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 07:39 PM
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7. Disheartened. k/r. nt
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 07:53 PM
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8. By way of kicking this up, I must say I'm rather surprised and somewhat disheartened by the number
of votes for your 3rd option. I can't figure out why so many people would be "disappointed" -- did they all really not see this coming? Did they all really expect a different outcome?

:shrug:

sw
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 08:01 PM
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9. i didn't
and i'm beyond pissed.
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Bobbieo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 08:04 PM
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10. Looks like Cheney won his bet!!!!Yeah- I'm pissed!!!
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 09:39 PM
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31. yea, cheney called it, FU cheney!!!
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 08:46 PM
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19. Too many folks passing around the "Pollyanna Juice" for the last year.
Edited on Tue May-22-07 08:49 PM by TahitiNut
I got tired of saying "it's gonna get a lot worse before it gets better" to the juicers. Funny how nobody seems to notice that even the minimum wage hasn't gone up. So many crystal balls and not enough Windex, I guess.

But, WOW! Look at those corporate profits!! (Fuck the employees, though.) Let's be glad our Congresscritters are proud members of the "ownership society."






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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 09:14 PM
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22. Same as it ever was. PT Barnum had something pithy to say about the phenomenon, as I recall...
As did some French guy whose name escapes me just now... (De Toqueville?)

Gullibility and naivite can be charming, I suppose. But in the mortal struggle against The Empire, it's worse than useless, it's an active impediment.

People need to wake the fuck up.

sw
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dave_p Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 08:04 PM
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11. Not surprised
What do you expect from a party that mostly dismisses the likes of Kucinich as "unelectable" for takimg consistently progressive positions and sticking to them?

Frankly I haven't seen that much on DU that differs drastically from the outlook that brought the cave-in: we have to be realistic, go with safe options that we don't have to fight so hard for, etc.

If this is the progressive end of the spectrum, what can we expect of a Congressional leadership that went out of its way to warn against expecting too much?
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 08:26 PM
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12. Another kick... (nt)
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Lost4words Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 08:39 PM
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13. Same as before, Same as it will always be.
All we have is the left and right wing of the Republican Party. And thats all we had in December 2000. And its all we can ever expect.

I can say it and mean it, The House Leader has no.......

:puke: 8643
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 08:41 PM
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14. A poem for the democrats: the parable of the dry powder
I wrote this a while back. I was hoping it would be irrelevant by now.

I guess I'll have to fax it to Reid AGAIN with a couple more verses.


___________________________________

the Parable of the Dry Powder

During the American Revolution, Colonel Harry Reid was sent to gaurd a mountain pass.
He had twenty men, the high ground, and a good view of all possible routes of attack,
but just one small keg of gunpowder for all their muskets blasts.

Each soldier would have powder to let just ten bullets fly.
General Washington gave thought to this when he bid them good-bye.
He said, "Take care boys, and keep your powder dry!"
He would soon regret those words for they led good men to die.

One night as Reid's boys were sitting around the campfire at their post up in the pass,
a grizzly bear got scent of them and into their camp crashed.
Johnny grabbed his musket and aimed at the bear's boulder of a head,
but before he squeezed the trigger, Col. Reid jumped up and said,
"Stand fast! Our bullets are for Redcoats, save our powder for them instead!"
Johnny held his fire and the bear tore out his throat.

As the bear began to eat him, the other soldiers grabbed their guns,
but Reid said, "Fight him if you must, but no bullets should let fly!
Washington has ordered we must keep our powder dry."

So they turned their muskets round and swatted with the butts,
they pulled their Bowie knives and they tried to slash his guts.
The bear just took the beating, but he would stand the cuts.
He turned on his attackers clawing flesh and chewing heads.
By the time that he was finished, half Reid's men were lying dead.

Reid thought it a victory for that keg was tight and dry.
Every bit of powder meant another Redcoat boy would die.

When the dead were buried, and the night lightened to day,
The watch saw Indians approaching with warpaint and sharpened blades.
Bob whispered to Reid, "They are fighting for the crown."
"That may be so," said Reid, "but when Redcoats come around,
we need every bit of powder to shoot each soldier down."

Bob was going to answer when a bullet hit his lung.
The Indians weren't as stingy with their own powder drum.
Harry took the powder and he began to run.
Half his men were killed again,
just five left from when he had begun.

"Now we can fight," he said.
"We have plenty for each gun."

As the day was fading and they lay up there in wait,
a half dozen Redcoats approached them, lined up perfect in their sights.

Tom pulled back his hammer and almost fired a shot,
but Harry grabbed his barrel and said this squad need not be fought.
"A bigger army's coming, and no powder can be lost."

"But if we all are dead, then who will fire the shot?"
Tom tried to wrest rifle, but in the struggle it went off.
The Redcoats were upon them, and then all five were caught.


While he tied their hands, the British sargeant asked why they hadn't fired a shot.
Harry Reid said nice and loudly, "I cannot tell a lie,
Gen. Washington himself told me to keep my powder dry."

"But if you shot the bear, your men would have lived to fight.
And if you shot the Indians, and put a bullet in my eye,
you could have stole our powder and have more to be kept dry."


The soldier took his bayonet, and Harry had to die.
But he cut loose the others and told them all to fly,
and he even gave them the powder keg
with Reid's head in it to keep the powder dry.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 08:41 PM
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15. I still haven't seen anything "on the table" ...
... but suspect there's a lot that's under the table. :puke:
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 08:42 PM
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16. The Dem "majority" is not BIG ENOUGH to override vetoes or push totally new policies
And having the current funding EXPIRE in September is IN EFFECT a deadline/timetable. The word is: POSSIBLE.
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 08:58 PM
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21. Oh there you go with those facts and logic.
Tsk, tsk...you forgot you were on DU!
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 08:43 PM
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17. Levin said back in January the funding would go through
so..uh..what's to be surprised about?

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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 08:43 PM
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18. Same as it ever was...
You may ask yourself: My God, what have I done.

:evilfrown:
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 08:56 PM
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20. "And the days go by..." (nt)
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 09:36 PM
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29. On the road to nowhere...
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Madspirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 09:15 PM
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23. Pissed...Not Surprised...n/t
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 09:17 PM
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26. I'll kick to that... (nt)
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Rydz777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 10:21 PM
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37. Another Kick. eom
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camero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 02:56 PM
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42. Ditto
I think that they all really do like each other from being in the same class and all the rhetoric is for theatre.
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Madspirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 09:16 PM
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24. k&r...n/t
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 09:16 PM
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25. My blood pressure is higher than hell...
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 05:16 AM
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38. It's increasingly more difficult to B Calm.
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 05:38 AM
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40. I need to change my handle if this continues..
Edited on Wed May-23-07 05:39 AM by B Calm
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 09:18 PM
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27. Our 30% can beat up their 30%.
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liberal renegade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 09:23 PM
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28. They've pissed on me long enough
in turn I'll shit on them! fuck em all!
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 09:43 PM
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33. we need to control them not the other way around.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 09:42 PM
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32. Steve Jobs said if Gore ran, he would win, but is still
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 09:43 PM
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34. I'm disappointed
but not too surprised, given the numbers. I just wish they had held out. If the same lack of spine is shown in September, I'll be well and truly pissed off.
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NuttyFluffers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 10:02 PM
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36. i love the word 'perturbed'. oh, and dried powder.
i loves me some dried powder. one day when it finally goes off it'll be AMAZING!
:nuke:

just you wait! ... and wait...
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 05:30 AM
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39. This congress is failing - they have a huge responsibility and every
day they seem more concerned with hold their jobs next election rather than do what we sent them there to do.
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 02:54 PM
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41. .........
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 03:25 PM
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43. You left out "enraged".
NT!

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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 03:40 PM
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44. Not one more damn dime.....
will the democrats get from me. Not one more minute of my volunteer time to help them get elected.

If they didn't get it when they were voted in maybe they will get it if everyone stopped giving them money and time.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 04:12 PM
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45. Absolutely Furious-but NOT surprised.
:grr:
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 07:14 PM
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47. Heh... (nt)
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stirlingsliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 04:15 PM
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46. Mad as Hell. Irritated. Supremely Disappointed.
That's how I feel.
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