Lieberman threatens to leave...20 hrs later, Dem leadership caves....

[Junkdrawer]

Lieberman, Sticking With Democrats for Now, Warns Them on Iraq

May 22 (Bloomberg) -- Senator Joe Lieberman, a Connecticut independent, says his disagreement with the Democrats over the Iraq war won't prevent him from working with his former party. For now.

``I hope the moment doesn't come that I feel so separated from the caucus'' that he decides to shift allegiance to the Republicans, he said in an interview. Asked what Democratic actions might cause such a break, he invoked Supreme Court Justice Potter Stewart's famous 1964 definition of pornography: ``I'll know it when I see it.''


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http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aJGabSW6Ddzo&refer=home

Coincidence? :shrug:

[bullimiami]

1. really. F(#* HIM. i knew he was a backstabbing bastard from his past actions.

it takes 2 branches of congress to fund anything. dems have the house, its enough.

[Junkdrawer]

2. All the Senate investigations would stop dead in their tracks...n/t

[bullimiami]

6. house investigations would go on.

[Junkdrawer]

9. True, but to date, the Senate (Leahy especially) is where the action is....

Waxman has been good, however....

[azurnoir]

3. The man is a a repuke mole n/t

[Junkdrawer]

11. No doubt. When I added up the numbers last November, I thought...

"Yeah, we have the Senate...as long as we kiss Holy Joe's ass."

[WCGreen]

4. It's a great point...

They don't have a real strong working majority...

All this bull shit about the dem's caved is such nonsense...

Nothing like this was happening back in the Vietnam War...

Nothing...

The Dem's in Congress should be supported for doing what is possible, not what is dreamt about...

[Mika]

14. Don't forget about the media.

During the latter half of our illegal incursion into Vietnam the so called main stream media was delivering at least a closer version of the truth than the _{w bush} hugging booster club for the illegal Iraq incursion of a media we have now.

Everything is different now. 911 911 911 911 fear fear fear..

Black is White
War is Peace
Freedom is Slavery

[WCGreen]

15. Yea but that was after 25,000 troops were already dead....

Our media, meaning today, is finally getting off their keisters and doing some actual reporting...

There is a lot of information about te fuck-ups in Iraq...

A lot more than there were back in the early 70's about Vietnam...

[Canuckistanian]

5. He's an Independent. Who's he going to 'leave'?

He votes 90% with them. He spouts the same garbage they do.

Now we're supposed to believe the Dems are trembling at the thought of losing him?

I'd be more surprised if Lieberjerk voted with the Democrats on something.

[Junkdrawer]

7. he caucuses with the Democrats...With him Democrats control all committees...

Without him, all Senate investigations into Bush and his cronies stop.

[Canuckistanian]

16. Oh, yes. I forgot that little detail

And, incidentally, he's doing a fine job on the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee.

That Katrina investigation was a whopper. What's that?
http://www.thenation.com/blogs/edcut?pid=166256

[Junkdrawer]

18. If I were a more suspicious man, I'd suspect that someone...

who controls the voting machines wanted to make it SEEM the Democrats controlled the Senate, when, in fact, they don't. Not when Holy Joe is the deciding vote.

[Canuckistanian]

19. I don't think anyone depends on his votes at this point

Holy Joe is waffling all over the place. He won't commit to the Repubs. He caucuses with the Dems.
He votes with the Repubs.

He's the "loose cannon" of Congress.

When Tim Johnson comes back, will he cancel out Joe's vote?

Or is it still a stalemate?

[Junkdrawer]

20. Tim Johnson is part of the 51/49 split....

When Tim went to the hospital, there was some Republican pressure to get him to step down and allow his Republican governor to appoint a replacement. If he did, we would have lost the Senate.

[Canuckistanian]

24. Ah, well

At least there are some sane Republicans who throw a bone every once in a while.

[Telly Savalas]

26. So what?

It's been 5 months and all we've seen is a little celebrity gossip about the AG, which hasn't resulted in any change in the course of policy.

There's no legislation of note in the pipeline, and any crap a GOP Senate would try to pull could be shut down by the same obstructionist tactics they're supposedly using on us now, yes?

Let him leave.

[Junkdrawer]

28. Assuming that the Dem leadership is sincere about stopping Bush...

(and I'm not 100% sure that's a good assumption) holding the committee gavels is a VERY big thing...

[bullimiami]

8. its about the caucusing.

[Canuckistanian]

17. I see now

See my post above.

[Skittles]

10. what a disgusting piece of garbage he is

:puke:

[Junkdrawer]

12. After the election, the DU wisdom was that we control him more...

than he controls us.

And I thought "That slimy weasel..let's see how this plays out."

[still_one]

13. In 2008 he WILL be irrelevent. I only hope the Democrats remember that /nt

[in_cog_ni_to]

21. CALL HIS BLUFF! LET HIM GO!!! He WILL NOT sacrifice his clout in the Dem party for a low life, no

seniority in the repuke party! He just won't do that. He's just heady with 'power' and 'control' over the Dems right now......he needs to be put in his place.

LET HIM GO! NOW!

[Junkdrawer]

23. We need to do something or else it's going to be a loooong two years....n/t

[calteacherguy]

22. It's completely to conceivable that this is why the leadership caved on Iraq.

Like it or not, we are dependent on the guy for our "majority."

[brentspeak]

25. Something I forgot about.

Lieberman, and his occasional threats to leave the Democratic caucus.

People should give the Democrats just a little bit more slack, considering all the very real difficulties they have to deal with on a daily basis: 1) Bush holds the veto power; 2) the Democrats have only a slim majority; 3) Lieberman threatening to hand power Senate power back over to the Republicans.

[bridgit]

27. Lieberman should be suggested just that, it's time to start popping all these festered pimples...

and ingrown, inbred hairs :nopity:

[jollyreaper2112]

29. Anybody remember the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly?

Remember how Angel Eyes took care of his employer in the first part of the movie? Either do that or embalm him in a man-sized vat of pickle juice. Just do something to get him out of the Senate where he makes a mockery of humanity.