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MichaelHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 08:14 PM
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Moscow, ID Sniper update
After a search of his house they found Aryan Nation flags and his membership ID.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 08:18 PM
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1. What are you 'talking' about?
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MichaelHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 08:21 PM
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3. Let me grab a media link
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 08:42 PM
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9. Geeze. How horrible. Is the Aryan Nation big up by you?
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MichaelHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 08:45 PM
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11. Yeah
we have a huge group in North Idaho ironically where Mark Fuhrman dedided to move. The cop in the OJ case. He now does hate radio out of Spokane.
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Kingshakabobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 08:19 PM
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2. What was his 'freerepublic' handle? n/t
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MichaelHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 08:22 PM
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4. Gotta be something
Idaho is full of them.
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 08:28 PM
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5. Link?
I'm not seeing that info on any of the major local news sites
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MichaelHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 08:35 PM
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6. Here you go
Edited on Tue May-22-07 08:36 PM by MichaelHarris
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 08:42 PM
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10. I'm well aware of the story, I'm in Boise
I meant the Aryan ID card stuff. Not seeing that on Spokane Review, KREM tv (Spokane), KTVB (Boise), or Idaho Statesman.
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MichaelHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 08:47 PM
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12. I had photos
from the shooting site today posted but they got deleted. Here are some I shot Sunday morning:

http://www.kxly.com/photos/index.php?gallery_id=1
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 08:50 PM
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14. You have photos of the Aryan ID card?
I guess until I see those or confirmation of them from at least one legitimate news source, I'm gonna call bullshit.
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MichaelHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 08:53 PM
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16. OK
Edited on Tue May-22-07 08:54 PM by MichaelHarris
KXLY just reported. I'll find you something, sheesh you guys....

Will a link work or do I need to drive a copy of it over to your house?
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MichaelHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 02:11 AM
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19. still bullshit?
Edited on Wed May-23-07 02:19 AM by MichaelHarris
http://www.columbian.com/news/state/APStories/AP05222007news143600.cfm

http://www.magicvalley.com/articles/2007/05/23/ap-state-id/d8p9sh4o1.txt

http://www.kndo.com/Global/story.asp?S=6555713&nav=menu484_2_10

The Spokesman-Review of Spokane, Wash., citing unidentified sources, reported on its Web site that Hamilton had an Aryan Nations membership card, as well as a flag, and had been a dues-paying member since 2000 - four years before the death of Aryan Nations founder Richard Butler.

The 36-year-old janitor, who moved from the Boise area a few years ago, fatally shot himself in a Presbyterian church after killing his wife, a police officer and a church sexton and wounding three other men, authorities said.

I doubt an apology is forthcoming, don't you live in Boise?
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 08:22 AM
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27. An apology from me, and one expected from you
The ID card story turns out to be true. After looking at KREM tv, KTVB, the Spokane review, and the Idaho Statesman sites late last night, none referenced this. It's on the front page of the Statesman this morning.

He had a membership long before they were kicked out of the state, and apparently thought he could serve as the Idaho chapter or something. The guy was certifiably nuts, and I'm sure most of them have mental "issues".

How about a comment or yes, an apology, for your claim that "there is a huge group of them here"?? There doesn't even seem to be a tiny group of them remaining, if you have followed the news here since 2001. Were you feeling the need to embellish your story a bit?
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MichaelHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 02:00 PM
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28. Comment and a question
I see confederate flags every single time I drive through the Bonner's Ferry, ID area. Not just every now and then but every time. Ten miles from Pullman, WA, on the Idaho border there are 4 houses that fly confederate flags every day.

Now a question, what do you think happened to all the guys in the north Idaho when it got shut down? Were they raptured? Did they disappear? Did Idaho make them move to another state? Did they just go a little deeper into the surrounding communities?
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MikeNearMcChord Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 08:37 PM
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7. What is the condition of the kid who tried shoot it out with the sniper?
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MichaelHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 08:41 PM
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8. I think
He's stable today but it's not yet known if he'll be able to walk.
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MikeNearMcChord Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 08:49 PM
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13. That is just what exactly happened to a armed shopper
who tried it out with a gunman who wanted to do a massacre at The Tacoma Mall last year. He ended up getting shot and paralyzed. What some gun owners don't realize that people with death wishes and want to take out many don't care, and are determined to take you out also. I wonder what Mr. Macho John Derbyshire of National Review Online thinks now? I hope for the best with the young man.
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MichaelHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 08:52 PM
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15. My question for the carry permit guys
Edited on Tue May-22-07 09:05 PM by MichaelHarris
is if you start shooting it out with a bad guy and the police show up and shoot you are you going to sue? I mean the police don't know who's the good guy and who's the bad guy. Unless they wear white hats.
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MichaelHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 09:11 PM
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17. I'll try todays photos
without my commentary. Maybe they'll let it stay this time:







For the officer:

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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-22-07 10:03 PM
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18. A brief history of Aryans in Idaho
Edited on Tue May-22-07 10:06 PM by IDemo
Unless they have made a dramatic comeback, and done so completely under the radar, Idaho gave them the boot several years ago. They were bankrupted by a civil suit to the tune of $6.3 million and forced to sell their 20 acre compound in 2001. They moved their mailing address to a midwest state. The property was purchased by philanthropist Greg Carr (former Prodigy CEO) and the buildings razed. The land is now a "peace park".

http://www.nic.edu/news/PublicRelations/details.asp?ID=738

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MichaelHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 02:20 AM
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20. And yet
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 02:25 AM
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21. The plot ahem thickens
Edited on Wed May-23-07 02:27 AM by nadinbrzezinski
the victims, what color? I would not be asking this question, except who the AN is.

Oh and the AK now makes all the sense in the world... them boys have been collecting them for decades, to fight that racial war.

Went to your link on the officer killed

hmmm

RIP Officer

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MichaelHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 02:50 AM
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22. they
were all white. I think it's going to turn out to be about a guy mad because he just hated the women in his life and one of them may have been seeing someone at the jail.

Don't know if you've followed my threads but I've been chased and beaten like a baby seal. It's been great fun. :)
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 02:53 AM
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23. Yes I have
why I said the plot thickens

I also read soem of the police press conference.... SKS, AK same diff

:-)

And he was on the should not own waapons list

Ah, yes the plot thickens

By the way, thanks for a good story
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MichaelHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 02:56 AM
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24. You're very welcome
I'll keep updating as more information comes in. Hopefully no more threads will get deleted.
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beevul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 03:03 AM
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25. Really not "same difference"
An sks is a semi-auto firearm, an AK is fully automatic.

You are correct though about the plot thickening. See my last reply to the OP.


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beevul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 03:06 AM
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26. The plot does indeed thicken...
Link to full police press conference and police report is contained here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=118x142018
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