Well, Obama got the bipartisanship he was pining for

[PhilosopherKing]

So much promise two years ago, pissed away.

There I said it.

Now how do we rebuild this thing?

[HuckleB]

1. Bullshit.

[PhilosopherKing]

8. Bullshit? He was the one who thought that

he could negotiate with snakes. Snake does only one thing, it bites. He should have known better.

[HuckleB]

9. Blah. Blah. Blah.

Bullshit.

[silverojo]

21. Bury that head DEEP Into the sand

It still won't make the truth go away.

[bobbolink]

61. Very eloquent.

You have completely brought me around to your point of view with that scintillating narrative.

:rofl:

[blogslut]

2. Meh

Whatever.

[babylonsister]

3. Get lost. Yea, he campaigned relentlessly for the last month

because he wanted the rethugs to win. :eyes:

[silverojo]

22. Is your sarcasm meter on the blink?

OP's point was that, by following the failed path of "bipartisanship", Obama set the stage for the excessive compromise that disheartened many of his previous supporters, and paved the way for the Republicans to take over the House.

Seriously, if you need that explained to you....

[Inuca]

53. Sorry to butt in, but

I think she DID understand.

[bobbolink]

62. You're telling another Dem to "get lost". Isn't that part of what got us into this mess?

Seems like you would benefit from learning a bit more about political persuasion.

[FrenchieCat]

4. You're the only one pissing......

That's what I'm saying.

[Radical Activist]

5. The most progressive accomplishments of any President in 40 years.

So many chances to celebrate were pissed away by chronic malcontents.

[HuckleB]

10. +1,000,000,000,000!!!

[Bluebear]

35. A kajiblion billon trajillion! LOLOL

[left coaster]

14. Hear, fucking, hear! You said it! nt

[Skittles]

16. LOLOL

:rofl: TOO FUCKING FUNNY!!!!

[cprise]

20. Yeah, more partying would have held the House

Not.

Many of us are quite unimpressed with corporatism dressed up as progress. But you keep counting all the cutesy acronym-titles for amounts to a steaming pile of anti-worker, anti-poor mendacity.

[silverojo]

23. Yeah, we're really enjoying that public option!

"Accomplishments" like turning HCR into a handout for the insurance companies?

[Radical Activist]

29. That was the Senate's fault. Now the Senate is even more conservative.

I'm sure that blaming it all on how much Obama sucks was a great way to motivate people to vote. Now the Senate that caused the problem is even worse. Brilliant strategy!

[Inuca]

54. It would have been a nice pony

I mean it. You did not get it. You can'r always get what you want. You got other nice presents that together with those that made Boehner the next speaker you kicked over and over because it was not EXACTLY what you wanted. Enjoy the absence of presents for a while!

[w4rma]

57. Now we have a common enemy to fight and the entire House is up for re-election in 2 years.

And fewer DLCers to get in the way of our unity.

[Inuca]

59. "common enemy"

sadly in a way, this will become a much more friendly place as a result, I think.

[Name removed]

24. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[Radical Activist]

27. Did you take my comment personally?

[Bitwit1234]

26. Yes they did pass some bills like the health care but those

bills fell a hell of a lot shorter than what they could have if they hadn't tried the bipartianisnship thingy.....we didn't get too many good things out of it.

[Radical Activist]

28. Do people still not get how conservative the US Senate is?

It was compromise or get nothing. Why is that so fucking hard to understand?

[depakid]

32. That's flat out nonsense

and even if it were true (which it's not) failing to be seen as even fighting for better policy- and calling out those standing in the way is what got Democrats into trouble early on.

Now you've got a Senate that on many issues leans- for all intents and purposes, Republican.

[Radical Activist]

33. Believing that Obama

didn't fight for better policy is a fantastic delusion. If you didn't see Obama fight or call people out then you were either living in a cave or consume "news" outlets as twisted as Fox.

At least 40 members of the Senate have leaned Republican for a very long time.

[Name removed]

37. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[Carolina]

47. Exactly!

He said one thing in speeches...

Point is if you're going lose, lose standing for something!

[eridani]

43. He called out Kucinich, not LIeberman or Lincoln n/t

[truedelphi]

38. And why the heck is Congress so damn conservative? Could it have anything to do with

Power monger Rahm Emanuel flying around the nation, from 2005 on, to make sure that progressives didn't have a chance in any places where the public wanted them? It will always be my belief that the substitution of Blue Dogs for Real Dems on account of slime like Rahm got us into this mess.

And why the heck did Obama reward Rahm with the Chief of Staff position? While running for the Oval Office, Obama claimed he would end NAFTA but instead gave the top spot to the man who offered Clinton the legal wording for NAFTA.

[Inuca]

55. Could it have anything to do with

the people that vote them in?

I don't know where you live, but look around or look at a political map. I used to live in Manhattan, now I live in rural downstate IL, believe me, it's NOT the same thing.

[Mimosa]

58. True, Delphi.

Working class people don't perceive anybody doing much 'for them' so they are more easily led by the likes of Limbaugh, Beck and O'Reilly.

[Hannah Bell]

36. nixon - clean air act, creation of epa, title 9 education act, water pollution control act amend-

ments, osha, ssi, consumer product safety commission, vigorous desegregation of southern schools (70% segregated to 18% = "the greatest school desegregator in American history"), endorsed the equal rights amendment, federal affirmative action, state parks.

Nixon also attempted to get his Comprehensive Health Insurance Act passed. "Nixon's plan would have mandated employers to purchase health insurance for their employees, and in addition provided a federal health plan, similar to Medicaid, that any American could join by paying on a sliding scale based on income."


sorry, i don't think obama has achieved as much as nixon did yet. nixon, ironically the "last liberal".

[apocalypsehow]

39. My grandfather HATED Nixon, and my grandmother loved him. They couldn't talk about him without

getting into a scrap.

My grandfather was a Bob Taft Republican, and my grandmother was an LBJ Democrat.

I think my grandmother would've agreed with your take on the presidential career of Richard Milhous Nixon. Sometimes, it's a crazy old world.

[Hannah Bell]

41. both nixon & johnson had very mixed records, but i think both did some very progressive things --

way more than anything that's come since.

[Autumn]

52. Nixon, the only Republican I have ever voted

for. Watergate doesn't sound so bad now. In this day and age I would do it again.

[young but wise]

48. +1

Wow, I couldn't have said it any better.

[Autumn]

50. Chronic malcontents, my ass

The problem is that they pissed away their message. We did our fucking part.

[Bluebear]

60. thank you.

[Tansy_Gold]

6. K&R

'Cause you're NOT the only one pissing. . . . ..



TG, NTY

[SunsetDreams]

7. So much promise for a good post....

pissed away.

There I said it.

[leftstreet]

11. K&R

You'll get beat up for posting this, but it's certainly true all we heard from the Admin for 2 years was 'reach across the aisle,' 'bipartisanship,' 'compromise' yadayadayada

So....maybe there's a master chess plan we don't know about

[emulatorloo]

12. Ugh. Unrec for nastiness and dishonesty

[pa28]

13. Well most of us are drowning our sorrows and finger pointing is a bad idea tonight.

Obama campaigned like a champion in the final eight weeks and the white house finally went on the attack.

Tomorrow starts a period of rebuilding and some much needed navel gazing. Let's allow the wounds a little time heal shall we?

[silverojo]

25. Who gives a damn how he campaigned?

He wouldn't have had to campaign at all, if he hadn't failed to lead. From trotting out an anti-gay "religious man" on Inauguration Day, to watering down HCR, to DADT, and a host of other ways he stabbed his supporters in the back, it's his actions - not his campaigning - that mattered.

There are only so many promises you can break, before people think you're just like every other politician, and there's no sense in voting.

When the best you can offer voters is that our party doesn't suck as bad as theirs, that's not exactly inspiring.

[pa28]

30. I feel your pain but you happen to be yelling at the wrong person.

I agree with just about every point in your post (I guess I just have a thing against hyperventilating).

I want to take up all these points and do what the Labour party in Britain did in the aftermath of their loss.

They took stock of their problems, deliberated, decided their future was returning to their base and made a commitment in that direction. I think we should too and the next few weeks and months give us a golden opportunity to re-evaluate what we are all about.

[Inuca]

56. Yes

:hug:. Actually :grouphug:

[Skittles]

15. YUP

[Jim Sagle]

17. KNR. You rawk, your detractors suck, and that's the end of it.

[emulatorloo]

19. Lol I love your middle school playground style n/t

[oddmanout]

18. The problem

The problem with the administration and the Democratic Leadership as a whole is that they failed to understand (or even make the attempt to understand) the fear that the average on the street American feels...(Whether this fear is real or perceived, trumped up by the Republican noise machine or their toadies in the Tea party) the leadership did not go far enough to reassure these people that they were working FOR them, instead people felt patronized by what the bloviators (like Beck, Limbaugh, Hannity, Coulter) told them regarding what they termed as the "Arrogant, Elitist, Intelectuals" who were only trying to talk down to them, that their liberal ideas were best for the country and to "shut up and accept them" like children. Sadly Sarah Palin and her ilk strike a chord with "the common people" (which is crap because she is a narcissitic opportunist who will say anything to grow her own fame)that the Democratic leadership never were able to do.....They missed the opportunity to educate everyone with their successes (Health care, the stimulus, which saved the country from disaster). The Blaming of the Bush administration however warrented, grew old as well, no-one outside the beltway wanted to hear it anymore.

[LatteLibertine]

31. I'm concerned about the "bipartisanship" we may get in the Senate

If enough Democrats get corrupted by the GOP we're fucked.

[upi402]

34. good question

he wont bow-out. so we lose the WH in 2 years.
he will act like a Clinton Republican and we'll lose.

end of story.

[Whisp]

40. the moaning spot is beside the tree in that direction -------->

take a picnic lunch.

have fun!

[jonnyblitz]

42. k & r. nt

[Catherina]

44. Rec'd n/t

[bahrbearian]

45. Yep

[Carolina]

46. K&R

Obama has a tin ear and is not that great a student of history.

He should have reviewed how the repuke minority treated Bill Clinton in 1993! They were obstructionists and not one voted for his omnibus budget bill of 1993. Doom and gloom they all predicted but we got prosperity. And that was before FAUX news and he was white!

He should also have studied how a selected, illegimate, ignoramus like Bush got everything he wanted WITHOUT super Congressional majorities...

Obama should never have tried to appease a hateful group of people who outspokenly wanted him to fail and many of whom are frankly racists bastards to boot. He should have come in like LBJ or FDR and fought them tooth and nail, pointed out (used that BULLY pulpit) their deficits under Reagan and both Bushes repeatedly, ended both wars, used the money at home and fought for a public option. He should not have peopled his team with the likes of Rahm, Geithner, Summers... Instead like FDR (the "traitor to his class"), O should have turned left and said: "I welcome their hatred" because they know I am cleaning up their mess and I am fighting for the people.

Anyway, I couldn't agree with you more about 2 years pissed away. I have been fighting since Reagan and have no idea how to fight or rebuild it any more when we have such a complicit, corporate owned media and such weak quisling Democrats who don't know how to WIELD power when they have it.

[Name removed]

49. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[TBF]

51. JOBS. nt