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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 02:32 PM
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About 70% of those so-called Tea Party libertarians voted NO on legalizing MJ in CA
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theaocp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 02:38 PM
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1. I am Jack's
complete lack of surprise. The MJ issue is why I voted for Libertarians in the 90s. Never again. Fucking hypocrites.
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 02:39 PM
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2. WHOA! Just fucking WHOA! Don't EVER use the words (what you said for teabaggers) and "Libertarians
in the same sentence. That's just WAY too wrong on so many levels. The teabaggers have NOTHING to do with Libertarians. They're all about corporate money - except for the idiots they get to vote for them - the teabag sheep.

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IndyPragmatist Donating Member (556 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 02:42 PM
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3. I agree hoops.....
The tea party hasn't been Libertarian for quite some time. It just became a group of Republicans that didn't want to pay taxes.

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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 02:51 PM
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4. No, that's what it always was. The teabaggers are just closet Republicans.
They all come out eventually.

I wouldn't insult Libertarians by insinuating that teabaggers were among them. That's just wrong on way too many levels.

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IndyPragmatist Donating Member (556 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 02:55 PM
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6. at the very beginning....
When this movement first started, after TARP, it was Libertarian. But, yes, by the time it was labeled "the Tea Party" it had lost its Libertarian base. I remember seeing articles and message board posts on various sites that reflected a pretty logical way of cutting spending. They wanted cuts that would reduce the debt, but limit the harm to the economy and citizens. But that didn't last long. When the right-wingers heard "reduce spending", they equated that with reduced taxes (which were minimal for Libertarians, they seemed to focus more on reducing debt than reducing taxes).

Then Palin jumped in and it lost any Libertarians that were clinging to hope that the Tea Party could still produce sensible and logical ideas for debt reduction.
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 03:01 PM
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9. I like the old saying - "Libertarians are just Republicans who smoke pot"
The teabaggers aren't Libertarians. They're just idiots who the Republicans are bowing down to because the teabaggers get more airtime (curious term since almost everything is non-air transmission now). Still, the teabaggers are the Republican party now. And here YOU might have thought that Republicans couldn't GET dumber! :rofl:
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 02:52 PM
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5. Most Libertarians have nothing to do with libertarianism either. (nt)
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 02:59 PM
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8. I've noticed that, but you should have put "Libertarians" in quotes there.
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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 02:58 PM
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7. A lot of medical users had problems with how the law was written.
I think that their concerns should be taken into account on the rewrite of the bill and get it into the signature process so it can be on the next ballot. Eventually it will pass just like the medical MJ prop did.
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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 03:13 PM
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10. They only want "smaller government" when a Democrat is in office
Edited on Wed Nov-03-10 03:16 PM by RobertSeattle
/Snark.
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Irritable Liberal Donating Member (72 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 03:31 PM
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11. I voted against it. It turns 21 users into criminals, Few knew that,
As did most of the movers behind the initial medical marijuana laws passed in 1996. it was a seriously flawed bill. It would have resulted in chaos with each county making its own rules. it was also largely funded by the guy who is trying to become the first legal pot billionaire and suits his own purposes.

it also makes it a felony for anyone under 21 to be caught with pot. Today in Ca anyone under 21 caught with under an ounce is subject to the same $100 fine.

It was a deeply flawed bill proposition that should never have made it to the ballot. We need to legalize pot but we need to do it right. Next time will be better.
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