Did Gonzales testify

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that he had not seen the list or had conversations? Or did he simply say it in a press conference?

Whether Monica only heard him lie in the press conference is irrelevant if he committed perjury in his testimony. She confirms he saw the list etc, so lets pray he lied about it under oath.

Does anyone know which it is?

[displacedtexan]

1. Here's the link to the transcript

LINK

Here are a couple of snippets:

LEAHY: So when was David Iglesias added to the list of U.S. attorneys to be replaced?

GONZALES: Of course, Senator, when I accepted the recommendation, I did not know when Mr. Iglesias was, in fact, added to the recommended list. As I've gone back and reviewed the record, it appears that Mr. Iglesias was added sometime between, I believe, October 17th and December 15th.

But I was not responsible for compiling that list.

--snip--

SPECTER: Then, on November 27th of 2006, you attended a meeting on the removal plans, attended by Sampson, Goodling, McNulty, Battle, a whole host of people.

SPECTER: Now, I've just given you a part of the picture as to what these three deputies of yours -- high-ranking deputies have said that you did, on talking about removal, talking about replacements.

Now, do you think it is a fair, honest characterization to say that you had only a, quote, "limited involvement in the process," close quote?

GONZALES: Senator, I don't want to quarrel with you.

SPECTER: I don't want you to either. I just want you to answer the question.

GONZALES: Sir, I guess it's -- I had knowledge that there was a process going on. I don't know all the...

SPECTER: You didn't understand there was a process going on?

GONZALES: No, I had -- sir, I had knowledge that there was a process going on.

SPECTER: Well, were you involved in it?

GONZALES: Senator, with respect to Carol Lam, for example...

SPECTER: Were you involved in the process?

GONZALES: I was involved in the process, yes, sir.

SPECTER: Were you involved to a limited extent, only?

GONZALES: Yes, sir.

SPECTER: How much more could you have been involved than to be concerned about the replacement of Cummings and to evaluate Lam and to be involved in Iglesias? Now, we haven't gone over the others, but is that limited in your professional judgment?

GONZALES: Based on what I thought that I understood was going on, yes, Senator.

I thought Mr. Sampson -- I directed Mr. Sampson to consult with senior officials in the department who had information about the performance of United States attorneys. I believed that that was ongoing and that he would bring back to me a consensus recommendation.

The discussion about Ms. Lam never, in my mind, was about this review process. And I indicated so in my conversation with Pete Williams, I believe on March 26th, is that we were doing this process.

Of course there were other discussions outside of the review process about the performance of United States attorneys.

GONZALES: I can't simply stop doing my supervisory responsibilities over United States attorneys because this review process is going.

Hope this helps. Gonzo testified once before this date, I think. This was his "clarification" testimony, I think.

I could be wrong.