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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 04:31 PM
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*** Monica Goodling Thread #18 *** Davis is up and Monica is squirmy!
Edited on Wed May-23-07 04:32 PM by helderheid
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 04:34 PM
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1. Pull her immunity!!! n/t
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 04:35 PM
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5. ITA. This time limiting is ridiculous, if we're searching for TRUTH.
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firefox_fan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 04:36 PM
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9. It is ridiculous indeed.
It should go on until no more questions are asked.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 04:37 PM
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If I ever commited a crime, I'd LOVE a two-hour time limit on the interrogation.
Does anyone really think I'd GET one?
Pfft!
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 04:34 PM
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2. I think that Davis should be able to continue questioning.
Damn.
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firefox_fan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 04:35 PM
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Yes, what's all the rush?
Grilling should go on damnit.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 04:35 PM
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3. she is miserable.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 04:35 PM
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4. wish I could watch
stuck with the radio version
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 04:35 PM
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6. You may answer IF YOU CHOOSE? WTF is THAT about?
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 04:36 PM
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10. The time had expired, so she didn't have to say more.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 04:39 PM
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27. She ALLOWED the time to expire with her hesitancy.
Edited on Wed May-23-07 04:40 PM by fooj
Is that all one has to do? Just sit there long enough and you don't have to answer? Seriously. I'm not being glib. Just an honest question.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 04:41 PM
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36. That's the Game Plan. It works, too.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 11:55 PM
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64. Wow. Just wow.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 04:36 PM
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12. In summary Gonzo lied and Monica
made political appointments. Adios Gonzo.
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 04:36 PM
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7. It couldn't have been more frustrating
I'm very disappointed with the Dems on this committee!!!
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 04:37 PM
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14. It's a congressional hearing, not Mortal Kombat.
What were you expecting?
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 04:38 PM
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20. Don't tell the microphone "snorting" republicans that - it's a blood sport to them and it shows. n/t
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 04:42 PM
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39. So did the Republican's triple-snort fatality move...
...keep Alberto's ass out of the fire?
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 04:56 PM
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58. Well, briefly "YES!" Their bluster when Davis had her cornered gave her a few minutes to
consult her Corporate Attorneys who promply ordered her to "DUMMY UP." By the time that "The Tabling Vote" was taken and reported Goodling was strictly On Message. :(

Yes, I honestly believe that the Republican's swagger and obnoxiousness saved Monica's ass today.

Bravo. :eyes:
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 05:14 PM
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59. I dunno... she said what she said...
...and none of her blather afterwards really contradicted it.
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firefox_fan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 04:38 PM
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21. I expected Mortal Kombat!
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 04:39 PM
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24. Intelligent questions, thorough questioning, you know
the standard stuff we expect of our lawmakers
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firefox_fan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 04:43 PM
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45. Davis was good!
Edited on Wed May-23-07 04:44 PM by firefox_fan
But he has experience with prosecution work.
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 04:44 PM
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48. I dunno, I thought it was pretty standard...
...first-day-of-questioning-a-witness type of stuff. At this point we have Gonzo possibly perjuring himself and two of the main players contradicting each other under oath. We'll see where it goes from here.
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 07:53 PM
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63. Someone to shout
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 04:37 PM
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15. No, they got Gonzo
He lied twice in front of the committee. He's so screwn.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 04:38 PM
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22. On this dame's wishy-washy, hesitant, grade-school say-so? He's not gone yet, by any means.
Edited on Wed May-23-07 04:41 PM by WinkyDink
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 04:40 PM
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33. Maybe not
But now he has to say he didn't lie for at least a week...:)
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firefox_fan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 04:39 PM
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23. Nah, not sure...
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 06:11 PM
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61. "Screwn." I love that Freeperism.
Edited on Wed May-23-07 06:19 PM by tblue37
It reminds me of the joke about the man in Boston for a convention who asked a cabbie if he knew where he could get scrod. The cabbie replied, "Yes, but I have never heard it referred to in the pluperfect like that."

(And yes, I know that's not what a pluperfect tense would look like--but that's how the joke goes.)
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 04:37 PM
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16. Disappointed? I'm more disgusted and angry.
What f**king cooperation? She should be put in contempt. :(
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 04:38 PM
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18. For what, specifically?
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 04:40 PM
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32. Well, how about the Democrats, to a man, quit the "After you, Alphonse" approach to
questioning these theocratic dictatorship-lovers?
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 04:42 PM
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38. She did not answer questions put to her in a direct manner. She was the poster child of "chatter
to the irrelevant" ... very few people I know can say so damn much but reveal so little.

She was obfuscating and amnesiac. IMO, they should have pressed her harder.

No slack! You want our Democratic Republic back, then play rough. We ALL KNOW that the Unitary Executive and Congressional Republicans are playing for keeps. It's time to *get mean* and do something NOT because it will pass but because it's the RIGHT thing to do.

It's Congress' moral obligation to IMPEACH members of this Unitary Executive Branch. Why not start with Alberto "The Geneva Conventions is Quaint" Gonzales?
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 04:36 PM
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8. She's stumbling
Oh, all over.

Well, I say, yeehaw!

Conyers closing now
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 04:36 PM
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11. How can one say "I don't know if I know?"
I don't get that response as being worth more than a pile of dog shit. "I don't know if I know?" What the fuck is that? It's all we've heard all day, just like Gonzo. "I don't recall if I recall." Roll over for your belly-rub, America. Judging by the performance of the democratic leadership lately, this case is probably closed, and Monica Goodling will be the next Attorney General, or VP maybe.

.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 04:36 PM
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13. Why is that attorney sitting NEXT to her?
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 04:37 PM
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17. It's all over. Can they have her back again for more grilling? Her lawyer is speaking.
Did the Democrats really get any good information from this Regent U bimbo?
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 04:40 PM
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30. She implicated Gonzo
Or so everyone is saying. It really heated up at the end.
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 04:41 PM
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37. I hope this was useful since she's gotten immunity.
If she lies and they find out though, all bets are off and she can be prosecuted.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 04:38 PM
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19. How about GETTING TO THE TRUTH?
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 04:39 PM
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28. Conyers held this hearing like he did with Gonzo. There should have ben another round
of questioning. They still don't know how names got on the "list". This was bullshit.

And fooj! :hi:
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 04:40 PM
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31. The TRUTH?? You can't HANDLE the truth!!
:D

(not you, not you personally, just... that's an Iglesias tribute, y'know?)
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budkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 04:39 PM
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25. Bye bye Gonzo!
It was NOT nice knowing you... asshole.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 04:39 PM
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26. SALON: Did Gonzales coach Goodling?
By Tim Grieve and Michael Scherer
Wednesday, May 23, 2007
Did Gonzales coach Goodling?
http://www.salon.com/index.html?source=refresh

In her testimony, Goodling says she may have had an "inappropriate" conversation with the attorney general. Plus: McNulty strikes back


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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 04:42 PM
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41. Good link
We'll see how the corporate news covers it.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 04:40 PM
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29. seemed to me like one big red herring!! why didn;t davis get all the time at the end..schiff sucked
and wasted the time!!

what a fucking joke...and don't even start me on the retugs..don't even start me!

fly
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 04:42 PM
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40. Shiff did not give a good ending to this testimony. Agree Davis would have been better.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 04:44 PM
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49. I agree and what was up w Conyers stating for Davis allowing for Monica to conclude
wasn't he aware of her rampling off topic. If they are only allotted a fixed time, they should be allowed to insure their time is not wasted by the witness.
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firefox_fan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 04:46 PM
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50. For these kinds of things you need professionals
who are used to get things out of witnesses. Not these dilectants.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 04:40 PM
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34. McNulty hits back at Goodling
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 04:43 PM
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43. sounds like mc nulty is pissed...so maybe he will spill the beans..on them all!
he now knows he is being thrown under the bus!!...how's it feel mcnulty?????????
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 04:44 PM
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46. davis is answering media questions on camera still...eom
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 04:44 PM
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47. Good for him.
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 04:41 PM
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35. Did Goodling not nail Gonzo's ass to the cross at the end?
She basically said he lied under oath. I think that's enough to take care of Gonzo.
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firefox_fan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 04:43 PM
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42. Wel, it was enough for Clinton to almost get impeached.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 12:21 AM
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65. Not almost
Edited on Thu May-24-07 12:22 AM by blogslut
Was.

Clinton was impeached. Impeachment is just a glorified name they give when they charge the executive with a crime and put him on trial. Clinton was impeached and found not guilty by a vote of 55 to 45.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 04:43 PM
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44. oooh Davis after interview
The press is asking if Gonzo committed perjury. Davis said that Goodling gave interesting testimony. Hee hee.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 04:48 PM
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54. Gonzo said he hadn't had any conversations with Goodling, and now he may have actually
COACHED her. Davis: "It's very problematic."
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 04:46 PM
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51. why the fuck didn't conyers do another round??
like flyarm said: who put the names on the list???

we didn't get enough answers. AND IT'S OVER??

WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH *OUR* CONGRESS???
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 04:48 PM
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55. They virtually caught Gonzo at lying before the committee
It ain't over
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wiggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 06:17 PM
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62. These are very smart people, lawyers mostly, who know how to ask
questions, frame a statement, and get answers. The hearing tells us as much about the questioners as it tells us about DOJ. Maybe more....

If they wanted to ask the right questions, they would have. They don't.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 04:47 PM
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52. Davis after interview
Talking with the press about how all these people have either given inaccurate testimony or did nothing to rectify incorrect statements.

The press thinks that Gonzo lied under oath. They keep asking Davis to say it.
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moc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 04:47 PM
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53. Damn! Damn! Damn! I missed it!
:banghead:

Does anyone know if they're replay Davis' questioning of Goodling?
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 05:19 PM
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60. they are replaying the whole thing now
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Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 04:48 PM
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56. And so it goes
God Bless you, Mr Vonnegut
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90-percent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 04:53 PM
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57. like this?
Student: My dog ate my homework.

Teacher: Well, then, I guess I have no choice but to give you an "A". Congratulations on a job well done.

-85% Jimmy
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