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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 05:21 PM
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Greg Palast: BBC Reporter has Rove Office Emails
http://www.gregpalast.com/index.php

Hitting the fan....


BBC Television’s Newsnight has 500 “missing” Rove office emails including a series of self-incriminating notes which provide “the keys to the kingdom” behind the prosecutor firings.

In the opening to today’s testimony before Congress, Monica Goodling, former Department of Justice White House Liaison, testified that Deputy Attorney General Kyle Sampson lied. At issue was, says Goodling, Sampson’s denial “that he had some knowledge of allegations that Tim Griffin had been involved in vote ‘caging’ during the work on the President’s 2004 campaign.”

What is ‘caging’? Why is it so important that it lead Goodling’s testimony? Why is Tim Griffin’s involvement kept secret? And what are ‘the allegations’?

Goodling, in her testimony (and in several subpoenaed emails) identifies the source of the allegation as BBC investigative reporter Greg Palast - who, in October 2004, first broke open the ‘caging’ story on BBC’s Television’s premier current affairs show, Newsnight. (Watch it here)


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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 05:24 PM
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1. Why are the emails with Newsnight and not the Judiciary Committee?
What gives? :shrug:
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 05:28 PM
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3. Wanna bet Judiciary DOESN'T have a copy?
Hard for me to believe that someone of Palast's passions & convictions wouldn't have done a little sharing around in the right places.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 05:29 PM
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5. Yah, you would think so
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 05:55 PM
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10. I hope so.
I'm hoping they are looking for corroborating evidence in regard to the USAs. But frankly, I'm becoming less impressed with their investigations.
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 05:47 PM
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8. Palast said that Conyers has them (on Randi)
Edited on Wed May-23-07 05:49 PM by npincus
and implied Conyers is letting the whole crew hang themselves in their testimony... a very interesting interview, I'll listn again tomorrow on whiterosesociety archives.
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hvn_nbr_2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 06:09 PM
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13. Let them hang themselves: I hope that's what happening...
I hope that's what happening rather than Congress looking for a "compromise" that's really a white flag. I still have hope for Conyers but am losing it for quite a few others.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 05:26 PM
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2. Didn't we have these posted here a few years ago?
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redacted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 05:42 PM
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7. Yep, and I have them on my computer.
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Cults4Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 05:49 PM
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9. Yes but whats interesting is that some of the emails refer to that very fact!
basically being snarky about how it didnt get picked up on the majors in the states... he was right.

Im hoping for the DSM reports to resurface again a little more fleshed out now for our angry publics consumption.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 06:14 PM
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14. Yes Palast reported this story for the BBC, but no media outlet will touch Palast.
Edited on Wed May-23-07 06:15 PM by mod mom
This si true of all who say the election was stolen, you're ignored and ridiculed. Funny...it was good enough for the BBC, but NOT for American News.
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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 05:28 PM
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4. posted on Daily Kos
(snip)
In the opening to today’s testimony before Congress, Monica Goodling, former Department of Justice White House Liaison, testified that Deputy Attorney General Kyle Sampson lied. At issue was, says Goodling, Sampson’s denial "that he had some knowledge of allegations that Tim Griffin had been involved in vote ‘caging’ during the work on the President’s 2004 campaign."

What is ‘caging’? Why is it so important that it lead Goodling’s testimony? Why is Tim Griffin’s involvement kept secret? And what are ‘the allegations’?

Goodling, in her testimony (and in several subpoenaed emails) identifies the source of the allegation as BBC investigative reporter Greg Palast - who, in October 2004, first broke open the ‘caging’ story on BBC’s Television’s premier current affairs show, Newsnight. (Watch it here)

The BBC reporter explained that ‘vote caging’ is a crime; Tim Griffin directed it; Karl Rove, Goodling and Sampson knew it, yet Rove demanded the appointment of Griffin as the US Attorney for Arkansas.

‘Caging’ was a 2004 Bush-Cheney campaign scheme to challenge, on false evidence, the right to vote of tens of thousand of Black voters.

Was Tim Griffin involved? Palast showed, on camera, the email he intercepted from the Bush campaign, "Subject: caging," written by Griffin himself, making clear that Griffin was not just involved, the but the director of this vote fixing scheme.

The allegation is based on an email, re-produced on page 207 of Palast’s book, "Armed Madhouse," currently a New York Times bestseller (published by Penguin).

In several emails obtained by subpoena by Congressional investigators, Goodling and Griffin complain about ‘that British reporter Palast’ (an American working with BBC London). In a February 5, 2006 email, Griffin gloats to Goodling that "no national media" has picked up Palast’s discovery of the ‘caging’ operation.

Here’s how caging works: letters were sent "Do Not Forward" to voters at home addresses. When the letters were returned to sender ("caged"), the voter’s right to vote was challenged. The letters, however, were targeted at African-American homeless men, students — and soldiers send overseas — all legal voters who, because they were shipped to Iraq or for other reasons, were not at their home address. BBC obtained 50 ‘caging’ lists with 70,000 voters including large groups of servicemen.

Palast, currently in New York, is available for a limited number of media interviews. Contact interviews (at) gregpalast.com immediately.

Palast is the award-winning reporter who, for BBC TV, exposed the Florida 2000 ‘purge’ of Black voters wrongly accused of being ‘felons.’

Just a note- comments will be responded to by Zach Roberts, who works in Palast's Office and runs this Diary at his request.


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/5/23/153243/890
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Nitrogenica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 05:33 PM
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6. The Republican Party defied a court order agreeing to abstain from "caging".
From

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/10432334/was_the_2004_election_stolen

"To stem the tide of new registrations, the Republican National Committee and the Ohio Republican Party attempted to knock tens of thousands of predominantly minority and urban voters off the rolls through illegal mailings known in electioneering jargon as ''caging.'' During the Eighties, after the GOP used such mailings to disenfranchise nearly 76,000 black voters in New Jersey and Louisiana, it was forced to sign two separate court orders agreeing to abstain from caging.(63) But during the summer of 2004, the GOP targeted minority voters in Ohio by zip code, sending registered letters to more than 200,000 newly registered voters(64) in sixty-five counties.(65) On October 22nd, a mere eleven days before the election, Ohio Republican Party Chairman Bob Bennett -- who also chairs the board of elections in Cuyahoga County -- sought to invalidate the registrations of 35,427 voters who had refused to sign for the letters or whose mail came back as undeliverable.(66) Almost half of the challenged voters were from Democratic strongholds in and around Cleveland.(67)"

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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 06:00 PM
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12. "...sending registered letters to more than 200,000 newly registered voters..."
200,000 registered letters add up to big $$$!!!
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 05:58 PM
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11. Jim Crow has not left the house yet. He is still here.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 06:34 PM
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15. I just saw Margaret Warner questioning Dan Lundgren, R., Apology, and some Demwit about Goodling.
Edited on Wed May-23-07 06:34 PM by Gabi Hayes
NOBODY mentioned the caging, including the simpering wimp dem.

NONE of this information got out there, and it's DAMNING. Thom Hartmann was citing the same information posted here, giving dates going back as far as 1981, after explaining how vote caging is an offspring of direct mail advertising. He knows about it because he used to DO it over a decade ago.

he was furious about this, as the dems SHOULD be, cause Goodling implicated her own pals in HIGHLY illegal activities.

So far, I've yet to see it mentioned on PBS, NBC, MSNBC, CNN. didn't catch the others, but Brian Williams gave this less than a minute on the Nightly News (I didn't catch the beginning of his bit, but he was just skimming over it as I watched)

is the caging going to come out?

WTF are these fricking DEMS DOING?????

am I missing something here?
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 06:47 PM
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16. CNN doing an upclose and personal on Monica right now. so far, not one word
on caging.

will they mention it?

NO!

it's already over.

not one word
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Vanje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 07:38 PM
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17. ?
What is caging?
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 07:52 PM
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18. from the OP link:
Edited on Wed May-23-07 08:15 PM by Gabi Hayes
''Here’s how caging works: letters were sent “Do Not Forward” to voters at home addresses. When the letters were returned to sender (”caged”), the voter’s right to vote was challenged. The letters, however, were targeted at African-American homeless men, students — and soldiers send overseas — all legal voters who, because they were shipped to Iraq or for other reasons, were not at their home address. BBC obtained 50 ‘caging’ lists with 70,000 voters including large groups of servicemen.''

this has been going on for a LONG time, and the pugs were forced to sign a consent decree awhile ago, admitting that they'd done it, and would stop

they haven't, and this is the very visible tip of the entire supress-the-vote scam they've been running. it reached its apotheosis in 2000 with Choicepoint in Florida, and god knows where/how in 2004 in Ohio. those better informed on that subject have posted at great length here on that subject


also, see post six here
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solara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 12:59 AM
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20. Goodling was asked about "caging" today at the hearing
Edited on Thu May-24-07 01:02 AM by solara
and she said that it wasn't really an important issue... that "caging" was just a term used by bulk mailers or some such thing. It seemed a rather innocuous question at the time, but it could become very interesting, especialy if Conyers has the Palast Emails and is sitting on them... this could put a whole different light on today's 'testimony'..

INVESTIGATE IMPEACH INDICT IMPRECATE INCARCERATE :banghead:
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19. k
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