Winterblues
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Mon Nov-15-10 11:07 AM
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When Bush* asked for his tax cuts virtually every Democrat voted NO |
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They had to be passed with Reconcillation, Now Democrats are for those very same tax cuts, what changed? Are they now suddenly good for America. Were we horribly wrong then or are we wrong now? Those Tax Cuts can be shown to have had a direct effect upon moving America from good healthy surplus to very deep (record) Deficits. So why have Democrats changed their minds? :shrug:
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Mon Nov-15-10 11:08 AM
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1. They've been bought in fee simple. |
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Mon Nov-15-10 11:10 AM
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2. that was before Obama was there |
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to show the democrats the error of their ways. That's also why the democrats opposed offshore drilling back then. Obama wasn't there to tell them how safe it was.
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Mon Nov-15-10 11:15 AM
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Mon Nov-15-10 11:21 AM
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4. Obama is probably the best Republican |
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Mon Nov-15-10 12:02 PM
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why have our past two Democratic presidents been like that?
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Mon Nov-15-10 12:25 PM
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Mon Nov-15-10 11:37 AM
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5. Important observation in the OP. -nt |
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Mon Nov-15-10 11:39 AM
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6. Because we're in a recession, and want people to have more money to spend |
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and less of a burden right now? Not sure it's right or wrong, but that's my best guess.
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Mon Nov-15-10 11:48 AM
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7. Remember when clinton first imposed his taxes on those earning more than $250,000. |
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We were also in a deep recession.. Every single Republican repeated the LIE that you can not raise taxes during a recession. Clinton's Budget was passed and those taxes were raised... America went on to experience the "Greatest Economic Expansion in History". Now do we want to repeat that LIE that you can't raise taxes during a recession? And according to those that monitor such things, the recession actually ended early this year...We currently are not in a recession..
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Mon Nov-15-10 12:01 PM
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8. I'm going to argue that the economic situation that we are in now |
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Edited on Mon Nov-15-10 12:09 PM by TwilightGardener
is much, much worse than when either Bush or Clinton were in office--the housing crisis and unemployment are simply much worse. I don't think that's deniable. Therefore, I can understand the impulse to allow the tax cuts to be extended for now (for the bottom 98%). They weren't a good idea, but the Republicans were betting that once taxes were cut, there'd be resistance to raising them ever again (despite being "temporary"), and they were right.
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Mon Nov-15-10 12:20 PM
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13. I think the top 2% will somehow muddle through without the tax cuts. |
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Edited on Mon Nov-15-10 12:21 PM by muffin1
Gee, do you really expect millionaires and billionaires to spend because they have a few thousand dollars more? And if it's for creating jobs, well, why didn't the cuts produce jobs over the last 10 years?
Edit because I can't type for shit today.
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Mon Nov-15-10 12:34 PM
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18. Yeah, I guarantee that those making over half a million probably aren't |
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taking their tax savings to finally buy that new refrigerator or a set of tires they've been scrimping for.
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Mon Nov-15-10 12:07 PM
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10. What's the point of even asking? We all know why. |
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They're politicians first, democrats second. End the Bush tax cuts, and you get an onslaught of corporate funded attack ads next election cycle.
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Mon Nov-15-10 12:16 PM
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11. They'll get those attack ads anyway, whatever they do n/t |
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Mon Nov-15-10 12:16 PM
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This was discussed back in 2006 here and there was some surprise over Voinovich voting nay in the Senate. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2619465
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Mon Nov-15-10 12:23 PM
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15. America, like any corporation, has a 15 year plan. All elected officers of the Board work towards it |
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Edited on Mon Nov-15-10 12:24 PM by Catherina
No surprise there, not really.
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Mon Nov-15-10 12:25 PM
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16. Sadly, Presidents are essentially CEOs |
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