Goodling hands the Dems bush's impeachable offense

[welshTerrier2]

tucked away in all the flashiness of yesterday's hearings was a smoking gun that seems to have gone almost completely unnoticed. actually, it was more of a smoking cannon than a smoking gun.

here is the key excerpt from Goodling's prepared testimony:

As explained in more detail in my written remarks, I believe the deputy was not fully candid about his knowledge of White House involvement in the replacement decision, failed to disclose that he had some knowledge of the White House's interest in selecting Tim Griffin as the interim U.S. attorney in the Eastern District of Arkansas, inaccurately described the department's internal assessment of the Parsky Commission and failed to disclose that he had some knowledge of allegations that Tim Griffin had been involved in vote caging during his work on the president's 2004 campaign.

this isn't something we didn't previously know about but it has now been testified to by someone who was in a position to know it occurred.

want to know more about vote caging? check out this link: http://www.truthout.org/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi/61/20537 and this youtube video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkvWkwv7UVo

Tim Griffin's appointment as a US Attorney was his reward for helping the bush campaign with vote caging. Vote caging, especially when it targets a specific race or nationality, is a felony. It is the epitome of violating the sanctity of democracy.

Is there anyone who believes that the bush/cheney campaign was unaware of Griffin's felonious vote caging activities? what did the president know and when did he know it? what do you say, Nancy? is impeachment still "off the table"? is there any crime worthy of impeachment? the new Democratic Congress sure seems to be a very tolerant bunch.

[Why Syzygy]

1. Thier dazed

and confused look embarasses me. I hate to say I'm ashamed of the lady. She fell right into the pit they prepared for her. Impotent.

[still_one]

2. There will not be impeachment. If nothing else, the recent events on troop funding

should convience you. I am convienced that the current Democratic leadership in Congress will only provide tough talk without substance.

[welshTerrier2]

4. i couldn't be more convinced

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x954529

[still_one]

12. I feel very much the way you expressed yourself in the link, however,

in 2008 I will vote Democratic, because the Supreme Court, and other issues are just too important

I WILL let them know my disgust with them, and that my support will NOT continue unless they do the job they were elected to do

[Richard Steele]

8. Really looks that way, doesn't it?

There will be no impeachment. Hell, looks like Gonzales
is gonna be here till the end. If there is one. :evilfrown:

[still_one]

13. I agree on both points. Yesterday's testimony gave Congress the reason to impeach the AG

I doubt very much they will do anything

[indepat]

3. Is Hillary's "a vast right-wing conspiracy" now a vast right-wing criminal conspiracy

[welshTerrier2]

5. has Hillary called for impeachment?

has she called for an investigation of bush's vote caging?

it's interesting that she will be forced to take a stand on the Iraq supplemental. do you think she'll vote to give bush the funding he wants to continue the war and occupation?

yeah, there's a vast right-wing criminal conspiracy. too bad Mrs. Clinton has failed to show any leadership on the issue.

[Pithy Cherub]

6. Congress is undergoing a political re-education

and they are stunned that people are paying attention rather than slumbering as in times past. Goodling is pouring gasoline on the presidency of George Worst Bush and providing Congress with inescapable proof to use the Constitution as it was intended for High Crimes & Misdemeanors committed by this lawless administration. Congress wants to hit the snooze button on every single issue important to Americans and the People are now speaking up and out in an unprecedented fashion after an election.

Goodling is an exemplar of all that is wrong with this presidency as they tried to undermine and create dry rot in the foundations of Democracy. Impeachment is now the ONLY Honorable measure left to politics to show that the Rule of Law is to merit the Respect, the Time and the Effort on behalf of the Ideals of America.

Nancy Pelosi is following the leadership mud of path of least resistance. It is because of a lack of Courage and a need of fortitude to Defend doing the right thing. Those who let the Bush Travesty pass are part of the problem and not true patriots to the Ideals of Democracy.

[welshTerrier2]

9. totally tone deaf?

i don't think either Reid or Pelosi understood the intensity of the reaction this bill would provoke. i also don't believe either of them wanted to bring it to the floor. neither of them supports this bill.

could the Democrats be so tone deaf that they failed to understand the damage this would cause by alienating their base?

the answer is: probably not! in the end, the choice was whether to shut down the occupation BEFORE THE OIL LAW WAS SIGNED or give bush more time to help BIG OIL get their spoils ... the choice was between damaging the Dems domestic political agenda and catering to Big Oil.

guess which one they chose. in the end, i suspect they believed that bush could force the Oil Law on the Iraqi Parliament if given a little more time. then, after it's signed, the Dems can appear to be tough on bush. bush doesn't give a damn about remaining in Iraq. all he wants is that Oil Law to be signed. the Dems think they can have their cake and eat it to by giving bush more time to get the Oil Law signed and then appearing to force bush to withdraw "most" American troops.

what a hideous bunch they are ... i suspect a majority of Dems will vote against this bill ... it won't matter at all because the bill will pass. a real opposition party would have blocked it from coming to the floor for a vote in the first place. the Dems will claim most voted against it to save face. the real issue is, though, the Dem leadership, regardless of how they actually vote, enabled its passage.

[Pithy Cherub]

11. The Logic of the Oil Law is failed

if the Iraqis have no means to enforce it. Voila, guess where the American troops will be stationed enforcing an Iraqi "Rule of Law" and not the American one. Pelosi, Reid, the odious Steny Honer and Rahm Emmanuel are in bed with Bush and they are representing special interests and not Americans. They are trying to spin it as holding worst.ever.president as accountable and that means they doubt heavily whether we are all sentient. They are beyond tone deaf, they are ethically dead.

[Triana]

The Dems have been handed SO MANY opportunities on a silver platter...

...to impale the BFEE for their blatant crimes, and WHAT have they done with any of them?

(cue crickets....)

It doesn't matter what Goodling said or what happened - Dems won't impeach and they've said so. At the MOST CRITICAL time in our nation's history when our Constitution and laws of this country have been spat upon and virtually ignored by despots and psychopathic predators running our gov't - our own party ran and hid from them - handed them a tube of red, white, and blue K-Y and told them to go ahead...and they did ... and they will continue crapping on the Constitution and sneering at the rule of law - and WHO is going to stop them?

(cue crickets....)

We have NO checks and balances anymore in our gov't, no oversight, no responsibility, no accountability - on EITHER side of the isle.

The American People - have been left flapping in the black wind of it all - taxed virtually without representation.

And here we sit.

Now what?

[CTD]

7. This needs to get picked up by some part of the MSM

Email KO- [e-mail]

[welshTerrier2]

10. the MSM

back in the old days, we used to have real journalists and real investigative reporters. they would spend months, even years, ferreting out the details of issues of national importance.

today, all they need to do is hit a button on the remote, pop over to C-Span, and listen to some testimony. that doesn't seem too difficult.

watch some TV. write a little article. take the rest of the day off knowing that they've done their job as the fourth estate.

if Watergate had occurred today, the press would be more interested in what happened on The View.

without an educated populace, democracy cannot survive. that just might be someone's agenda.

[bamacrat]

14. Yes she did, but these feeble little people running our party will do nothing.

[Cults4Bush]

15. Our Dem leaders are actively squashing the impeach movement, proofs here

read this article and tell me Im lieing and if it doesnt disgust you then maybe youre not quite as left as you may think.... also Id love to see someone make a post about it... I already did one but it was in GDP and didnt get much traction, there was one in GD the other day as well but that was capitualtion day so didnt fair as well there either. Id love to know how the anti-impeachment dems feel about this.

http://www.baltimorechronicle.com/2007/052207Lindorff.shtml

[Fridays Child]

16. k/r

[Ghost in the Machine]

17. The Dems yawn... place another tarp over the powder kegs...

[welshTerrier2]

18. we regret to inform you that ...

those aren't really powder kegs ... they're oil drums ...

[Ghost in the Machine]

19. by GEORGE, I think you've GOT it!

seriously. We have no leadership for us... We, The People. It's time for a new revolution... Taxation without representation lives again.

[L. Coyote]

20. Why are you Dem bashing? They handed you this on a platter. Geezzzz

Get real. What the hell are you, a ratf**ker? Or, are you living with your head in the sand?

Who is bringing this testimony, Bushco? NO, the new Dem Congress, which has 108 House co-signators on the Gonzolies no-confidence bill.

Hoooray for all they have done in just a few months. There is now a new political reality in DC.

If you can change things overnight, do it. Or run for Congress. Or rant at Bushco and Gonzo, not the Congress People who are investigating all this for you, and having to run a country at the same time.

[welshTerrier2]

21. tell you what ...

why don't you ask me that on a day the Dems haven't condemned our troops and the Iraqi people to more war and occupation ...

this is not about changing things overnight ... how about getting on board with calling for a special prosecutor or impeachment hearings given the knowledge that caging was used by the bush/cheney campaign ... and btw, before you talk about the Dems handing anyone anything on a platter, you might want to note that most of the investigative journalism that disclosed the caging was done by Greg Palast several years ago.

the point raised in the OP was that given massive evidence of electoral fraud by the the republican party, statements like "impeachment is off the table" are bullshit ... i was not supportive of those calling for impeachment when the Dems first took over the Congress, but, to take impeachment "off the table" was insane. we either let the process take us where it leads or we reach an ill-advised conclusion without even gathering and analyzing the evidence ...

so tell me, which did Pelosi do?

and after yesterday's Goodling testimony, how many Democrats on the House committee or elsewhere highlighted Goodling's comments on caging to help educate the American people about the electoral crimes of the bush administration? instead, we get a much more narrow focus on whether Gonzales lied. that's fine; it's not good enough. in fact, what if anything has the Democratic Party had to say about the corruption of the electoral process by bush/cheney? is the message just not getting out because the MSM is against us or is it not getting out because the Democrats seemingly refuse to discuss it?

[annabanana]

22. We know that Conyers has this, right? We know that the Dems on

the House Judiciary understand this, right?
We know that Leahy has this, right?
We know that the Dems on the Senate Judiciary understand this, right?

These are not dummies, yet I feel that Americans have had to lead them by the hand. step by step, to get them this far...

Is it even possible that this information hasn't sunk in down there?