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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 10:49 AM
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This could be the definitive moment for Obama.
If and when this thing gets to the senate, he'll have an opportunity to filibuster it.

If he does, then he'd quite possibly ensure his place in history, end the war, save the lives of thousands of people, be a hero to millions of registered voters, and possibly even secure the nomination/presidency. Hopefully with lots of help from Kucinich, Kennedy, Byrd, and so on.

If he doesn't fight it tooth and nail, and a simple "no" vote isn't tooth and nail, IMO, then he'd be an awfully big flop, putting it nicely.

So while you're sending off angry letters, phone calls, and e-mails to your representatives, which you're surely doing, you may want to send off a demand to Obama that he filibuster.

P.S.- interesting fact- if one were to read allowed the names of the 3434 U.S. troops killed in Iraq without a break, it would take approximately two hours. Assuming ages and home states were left out.
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 10:52 AM
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1. "definitive moment" for any Quisling consiprator.
Nice rant.
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 10:56 AM
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2. You think he has 40 senators to along with him?.
Edited on Thu May-24-07 10:57 AM by bowens43
If not, no filibuster.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 10:57 AM
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3. He Can But Try--Which Puts Him Head and Shoulders Above the Competition!
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 10:58 AM
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4. It only takes on man to filibuster.
It might not work, but it only takes one man to stand up.

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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 05:57 PM
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11. That was one of my most FAVORITE West Wing episodes
it was outstanding. Will Obama do it? I'm not holding my breath but it would certainly make me take another look at who I was planning to vote for.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 05:04 PM
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5. Afternoon bump
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 05:05 PM
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6. The moment passed. He's already vacillated - just like Clinton.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 05:09 PM
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7. I want to be gung-ho for Obama.
However, I am now leaning towards Edwards after this.

We gave Obama some $$ ... I might have to send some Edwards' way to even it out.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 05:47 PM
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8. Edwards?
The same edwards that not only voted for the IWR, but also co-sponsored it?
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 05:55 PM
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9. And who says he intends to end the Iraq war.
That one.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 05:56 PM
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10. But who changes his mind about his vote more often than most change undies.
Yeah - that one.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 06:07 PM
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14. Sorry, din't know you were a DLC lover
that turns a blind eye to one who helped bring about the war in Iraq.

This man was my senator and he treated his constituents like crap. He's a finger in the wind phony that will do or say anything that will get him elected.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 06:47 PM
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15. Oh yeah, I'm a real DLC lover.
Edited on Thu May-24-07 06:50 PM by Bluebear
I'm really in the mood for snarky shit today, with this vote going down.

Ciao, we won't be running into each other again.

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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 06:05 PM
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13. I know, I know ...
But, crap, Obama should know better at this point than to capitulate to Bush! As for Hillary ... I expect her to cave and capitulate and compromise and triangulate and talk out of both sides of her mouth.
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 06:04 PM
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12. On KOS ..Kerry said there was no chance of Filibuster
there is no votes for it, it would be an empty gesture, can also be twisted as grandstanding. I just look for Obama to stand on his word, he was against the war from the begining, I expect him to vote no.

I will be watching this vote very carefully. It is more important than the original IWR vote in 2002. IMHO
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