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DFab420 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 08:02 PM
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President set to compromise on Slavery
Today the 36th Congress passed the Corwin Amendment, a measure supported by President Abraham Lincoln. Tomorrow the Senate is expected to pass the measure as well.

The amendment reads thusly : "No amendment shall be made to the Constitution which will authorize or give to Congress the power to abolish or interfere, within any State, with the domestic institutions thereof, including that of persons held to labor or service by the laws of said State."

It is largely seen as a compromise by the newly elected President from Illinois, who even wrote letters to the governors asking them to help ratify the amendments, in an attempt to avoid war between the states. (http://www.lib.niu.edu/2006/ih060934.html)

Unfortunately for the President. His poll poll numbers are down and his base now view him as a spineless coward for trying to avoid secession from the states.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 08:05 PM
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1. And when the Confederacy told Lincoln to stuff it
Lincoln kept compromising - right?
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DFab420 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 08:06 PM
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2. Actually no 660,000 American soldiers
Edited on Mon Nov-22-10 08:07 PM by DFab420
lost their lives.

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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 08:08 PM
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5. My point exactly
For better or for worse, Lincoln had a limit.
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DFab420 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 08:12 PM
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6. Exactly
His limit was the enslavement of humans. That's when Pres. Lincoln drew the line in the sand.

We keep giving President Obama shit about compromise and how he needs to pick a fight. Remember what happened the last time the President decided that.

WE(DU, Liberals, progressives) don't want a war, but there are alot of people in this country right now itching to "take it back"

Just like they did when Lincoln was elected. Yet Lincoln, as well as Obama, tried to compromise up to the very breaking point.


Let's give Obama somemore time, before we forget what our country's desire for a fight brought about last time.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 08:07 PM
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3. .
:popcorn:
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 08:08 PM
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4. No comment this time, just
:popcorn:
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 08:19 PM
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7. Would you support slavery as compromise?
If not, what is your point, exactly? You think we should still have slave states to avoid that war?
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DFab420 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 12:19 AM
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9. My point
is that Lincoln was willing to compromise with far worse people and far worse situations then we have today and he still tried to maintain the Union. . And that if our President, for the good of the country, thinks that compromising, and continuing to maintain a civil discourse is the best way for us to continue on as a country. . Then I think we should cut him a little slack, an give him credit for getting alot done in two years.


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pnorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 09:28 PM
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8. Anyone who had ever followed discussion of Abraham Lincoln on the internet,
must have encountered many "racist" statements by him. They included his belief in "the inherent inferiority of the negro race", as well as denying that they should ever be given the right to vote.

Many of those statements were demonstrably BOGUS, but some were accurate, and could be Googled as such. This is of course deeply disturbing to us all. But what MUST be borne in mind, is that they were taken from those "Lincoln Douglas`Debates". To avoid political suicide, Lincoln could NOT afford to let himself be "out-n******ed by his opponent! In the end Lincoln lost that Senate race, but it was NOT a crushing defeat. So 2 years later, Lincoln was not only able to get nominated for President but get elected!

Figure out your own "moral" to this yourself. I know that you can do it!
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