sudopod
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Tue Nov-30-10 07:44 PM
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What is the difference between Wikileaks and a British Newspaper? |
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Money? Backing by a large publishing firm?
No one seems advocating breaking the legs of, detonating, and/or poisoning the editor-in-chief of the Guardian.
What's the difference?
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Tue Nov-30-10 07:49 PM
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1. The bell was already rung. |
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Tue Nov-30-10 07:51 PM
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The newspapers got to pick through and release things into public well before the general internet release. They "rung the bell" first, even if they didn't do any of the leg work.
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Tue Nov-30-10 07:53 PM
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3. How about being subject to the Official Secrets Act |
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There is real problem with territoriality when it comes to Wikileaks. What is its business nexus and which country's laws, if any, is it subject to?
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Tue Nov-30-10 07:55 PM
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5. One assumes wherever their servers are located |
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since that is where money and information is transferred. Which would be Iceland, and maybe Sweden, since the Pirate Party is hosting some of their stuff, if I remember correctly.
I am not a lawyer, though.
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Tue Nov-30-10 07:59 PM
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10. IRC, they have many mirrors in many nations, most of them not opperated by them |
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You may remember that is how the attempt to take the domain name was circumvented
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Tue Nov-30-10 08:02 PM
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14. There are also many mirrors maintained by volunteers. |
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Edited on Tue Nov-30-10 08:03 PM by sudopod
They aren't shy with releasing their content, after all. Not to mention the thousands of torrent peers floating out there in the tubes.
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Tue Nov-30-10 07:54 PM
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4. For one thing, a newspaper is a public company, with a known structure |
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finances and activities that must be carried out according to the law.
Wikileaks is working outside of the law. For all its talk of transparency, it is working behind its own curtains.
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Tue Nov-30-10 07:56 PM
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6. It's working outside of our law. |
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As far as I can tell, which is admittedly from a layman's perspective, they are operating within the laws of Iceland and Sweden on a relatively small budget (< $1,000,000).
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Tue Nov-30-10 07:58 PM
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8. The question was about a British newspaper, which does have |
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to abide by British law.
How do we know what the Wikileaks budget is -- or where the money is coming from or going to?
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Tue Nov-30-10 08:00 PM
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12. would an .xls of their budget satsify you? |
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Assuming they would supply that, then the same could be said of any media company, after all.
Hell, we say it all the time about Fox News and Newscorp, but no one here is making vocal calls to take out Rupert Murdoch, and rightly so.
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Tue Nov-30-10 07:59 PM
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Edited on Tue Nov-30-10 07:59 PM by pnwmom
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sudopod
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Tue Nov-30-10 07:58 PM
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7. What would you want to know about them before they |
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Edited on Tue Nov-30-10 07:58 PM by sudopod
got taken of the hit list?
An org chart? A nice .xls file of what they spent on server hardware, maintenance, and bandwidth?
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Tue Nov-30-10 07:59 PM
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11. nations will not allow this to go on much longer...too much at stake |
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Tue Nov-30-10 08:00 PM
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13. I am afeared you may be correct |
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When it was just a Swiss bank or the US being pilloried, it was fine with most countries. Now that many will get exposed, it is not.
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