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KansasVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 10:25 PM
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Damn.....I just want Obama to learn his damn lesson, the GOP will not compromise!
Edited on Tue Nov-30-10 10:26 PM by KansasVoter
How long will it take him to learn that they will never work with him?

I commend his first 6 months of trying, but at some point you just look like an idiot when you keep trying.

Rachel basically said that tonight on her show. And you know the GOP is having a blast with this.

Wow, I hope it sinks in at some point.

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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 10:29 PM
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1. at this point, it is a lost cause
he is clearly not a stupid man so the only other alternative is HE LIKES WORKING WITH THOSE BASTARDS, APPROVES OF THE RESULTS and has NO INTENTION OF CHANGING HIS WAYS
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AnArmyVeteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 10:37 PM
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6. I agree with everything you said.
If he's not fighting it, he's in on it... plain and simple, we've been had.
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abelenkpe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 10:39 PM
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8. Seems that way
Especially given that OFA wants us to approve of federal pay freeze. What the hell? Austerity measures championed by libertarians are not going to help the economy do anything but continue to spiral down setting the GOP up so they can say dems did nothing to improve the economy in 2012.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 10:39 PM
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9. OK, that's blunt
But I agree.
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Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 11:08 AM
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27. +1 That's the only reasonable conclusion.
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Synnical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 10:32 PM
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2. Yup.
Another Clinton. Trying, but not getting anywhere.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 10:34 PM
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3. Maybe he knows and we are the idiots.
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KansasVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 10:36 PM
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4. I need more detail
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 10:44 PM
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10. As in he shares some of their views and less we thought of ours.
In other words, maybe he is more conservative than we figured or knows Democratic Senators are. Thus talk of bipartisanship where there clearly isn't any.
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Poboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 10:37 PM
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5. Just about everyone has been screaming about this, but Charlie Brown soldiers on.
We are fucked beyond belief.
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tedbear Donating Member (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 10:37 PM
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7. Lessons
One must wonder!

I love the President and don't mean this in any way that can be construed as negative. He does have a thing about working with both sides like Abraham Lincoln did but that cannot be what is driving him, could it?
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 10:44 PM
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11. It's said that Lincoln died with Confederate money in his pocket
He truly was curious about his opposition. And maybe he was moved by their passion.

But Lincoln did NOT seek "bipartisan solutions" with the people who wanted him destroyed.

That's the difference here.
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 10:48 PM
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12. don't hold your breath waiting
I am crushed to see the level of surrender in our Dem leadership, and complete lack of discipline, in voting and message. No more for me until I see a backbone.
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frazzled Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 11:48 PM
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13. What is the lesson?
They will not compromise. Period. That means Obama can't really get anything passed. Believe me, he knows that. There is nothing he can do about it. Yelling and screaming won't help. Calling them names won't help. They're not going to budge.

I don't know that he looks like an idiot trying. He looks better than them, above them. You know, turn the other cheek and all that. He campaigned on the idea that the nation had to come together and that the old red state/blue state thing and Washington games had to end. He's keeping up his end of the bargain; they are not playing. I honestly don't know what the alternative is.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 05:41 AM
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14. he doesn't look better than them
he looks like he's being played like a fiddle
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frazzled Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 10:07 AM
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19. Depends on who is doing the looking
To me, given the Republicans' determined obstructionism, it looks worse for him to raise a ruckus and then (inevitably) lose to them.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 10:09 AM
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20. It doesn't matter what it looks like...
It matters what programs are passed and which are destroyed.
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frazzled Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 10:54 AM
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23. Nothing will be passed either way when Republicans obstruct
So we're just down to a matter of style.

You think the President can get anything passed he wants if he only yells loud enough? Completely untrue.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 10:21 PM
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32. LOLOL
LOSE THEM??? :rofl:

WTF planet do you LIVE on?!!!
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 06:01 AM
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15. Republican bipartisanship.
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BzaDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 06:05 AM
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16. Obama actually has known they wouldn't compromise since Feb 2009, and he has said as much.
Edited on Wed Dec-01-10 06:06 AM by BzaDem
That's why Healthcare passed with exactly 60 votes and not a vote more, the Stimulus passed with exactly 60 votes and not a vote more, and FinReg passed with exactly 60 votes and not enough more.

There are a few things he needs to compromise with them on (such as passing a continuing resolution to fund the government, ensuring the middle class tax cuts don't expire, passing unemployment benefits) but other than that, this is just an act to convince moderates that Obama is trying. It's just a campaign stunt for the moderates who he'll need to win re-election. I don't know why you get so frustrated over it.
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vssmith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 07:23 AM
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17. Americans have always admired a strong President
We elected him to do what he said he wanted to do. Please! be strong and don't back down.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 07:25 AM
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18. The Republicans seem now to be his convenient excuse for his own inclinations.
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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 10:16 AM
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21. Obama knows what he is doing.
He is not naive. He is not "too trusting". He is not making unwise assumptions. He is doing exactly what he wants to do. Accept what your eyes are telling you.
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Pisces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 10:18 AM
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22. I guess you feel we should bomb Iran?? How long should we engage this country that does not want to
work with us??? Doesn't everyone on DU expect us to use diplomacy until the bitter end????
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 10:56 AM
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24. me, too. nt
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 10:56 AM
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25. Einstein on insanity


"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. "



I don't think Obama is listening to Einstein.
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somone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 10:57 AM
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26. Obama is a highly intelligent man and a quick learner
so the conclusion should be obvious: He doesn't give a rat's ass.

I would like to know the real truth behind his presidential campaign.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 11:09 AM
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28. You're getting incorrigibility and complicity confused
Obama is doing his thing. It just isn't what you want. You got to hand it to him: getting Democrats to actually vote FOR Reaganism is an historic accomplishment.
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 11:12 AM
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29. What team does he play for
Gee, golly, gosh! It's like Republicans sneaked into the Democratic party during nominations and Kucinich was black-balled from even debating.

Pyrrhic victory anyone?
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 01:58 PM
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30. He's not stupid. He's complicit.
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northernlights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 02:08 PM
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31. Um, sorry to say this but, *we're* the slow learners here.
Obama *knows* the GOP will not compromise. That is a piece of Kabuki theater intended to trick some of us into believing that he's reeeeelly trying to do what the nation wants and needs, but the GOP just won't let him.

He's getting *exactly* the legislation he wants. Or he could care less about the exact legislation because he and his are set. He just wants to show he got something done. Anything. At any cost.

Sorry, but you've been had. We all were. Obama is an elephant dressed like a donkey.
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leeroysphitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 10:27 PM
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33. Aw ,c'mon. I say we give those Republicans one more chance.
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