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the redcoat (510 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 03:51 AM Original message |
Oh my God, 1984 was right. Tonight, I'm reflecting on the party's slogan |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 03:55 AM Response to Original message |
1. +100. And those aren't the only parallels. |
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unc70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 10:42 AM Response to Reply #1 |
11. We have the Memory Hole and rewriting the news is standard |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 02:30 PM Response to Reply #11 |
29. I still don't know the truth about the chocolate rations. nt |
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Jackpine Radical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 06:46 PM Response to Reply #29 |
63. Chocolate rations have been increased to 20 grams this month. |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 05:21 PM Response to Reply #11 |
54. Don't forget concepts like "doublethink" which is now an ingrained part of our national character... |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 10:37 AM Response to Reply #54 |
102. I get what you're saying, but "funny" (not ha-ha funny), I see more parallels with |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 01:40 AM Response to Reply #11 |
91. Do you recall what the Taliban response to 9/11 was? |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 03:59 AM Response to Original message |
2. k&r |
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WCGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 04:04 AM Response to Original message |
3. Ignorance is strength is pretty much the credo of the GOP.... |
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Plucketeer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 02:03 PM Response to Reply #3 |
20. Sadly, it worked well for Darth and Co..... |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 04:09 AM Response to Original message |
4. Orwell was an optimist. We've far exceeded his predictions. nt |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 03:16 PM Response to Reply #4 |
33. Agree ... was going to add this one "We had to burn the village to save it!"..... |
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saigon68 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 06:45 AM Response to Original message |
5. K & R |
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StarsInHerHair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 07:06 AM Response to Original message |
6. recc'd up-agree about war, why is the US going after |
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Art_from_Ark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 07:26 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. The right-wingers used to brag about how Ronald Reagan |
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StarsInHerHair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 01:30 AM Response to Reply #7 |
89. this fact needs to be reintroduced everywhere |
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blackspade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 02:19 PM Response to Reply #6 |
25. We should have continued to treat them as criminals. |
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Hydra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 03:05 PM Response to Reply #6 |
31. Follow the money |
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StarsInHerHair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 01:32 AM Response to Reply #31 |
90. too bad we don't have a functioning news media |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 09:08 PM Response to Reply #6 |
70. And as far as fighting terrorists to preserve |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 07:55 AM Response to Original message |
8. Proof positive that we've achieved new greatness |
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CanonRay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 08:56 AM Response to Original message |
9. Ignorance is Strength = Fair and Balanced |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 09:00 AM Response to Original message |
10. ''If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face -- for ever.'' |
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FiveGoodMen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 03:04 PM Response to Reply #10 |
30. And this site has spent years slavishly protecting the reputation of the boot's current occupant! |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 03:38 PM Response to Reply #10 |
38. one of the most chilling lines... |
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me b zola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 10:44 AM Response to Original message |
12. K&R |
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felix_numinous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 12:12 PM Response to Original message |
13. Ha-but the internet |
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unc70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 05:49 PM Response to Reply #13 |
61. The internet actually makes the Memory Hole worse |
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Constance Craving (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 07:06 PM Response to Reply #61 |
64. exactly . . . |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 01:48 AM Response to Reply #61 |
92. You need to know about archive.org. |
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felix_numinous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 01:13 PM Response to Reply #61 |
103. You got it. |
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era veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 01:23 PM Response to Original message |
14. WMD,WMD,WMD,WMD...... |
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peace frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 01:56 PM Response to Reply #14 |
19. 9/11, 9/11, Terra, Terra, Terra |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 01:24 PM Response to Original message |
15. K&R |
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Diclotican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 01:46 PM Response to Original message |
16. redcoat |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 03:41 PM Response to Reply #16 |
39. Remember the line... |
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Diclotican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 04:56 PM Response to Reply #39 |
49. awoke_in_2003 |
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Politicub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 01:49 PM Response to Original message |
17. I don't want to diminish the content of the cables, but I'm going to be honest here |
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ArcticFox (654 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 02:14 PM Response to Reply #17 |
24. I agree and wonder why there is such a big official deal about it |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 02:16 AM Response to Reply #24 |
93. About the alarms, and the security hole.... |
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Daemonaquila (413 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 05:12 PM Response to Reply #17 |
51. The cables themselves aren't shocking. |
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Politicub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 08:55 PM Response to Reply #51 |
68. There are so many things hitting at once right now |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 09:14 PM Response to Reply #68 |
71. + 1`. n/t |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 05:33 PM Response to Reply #17 |
56. Indeed, but you also need to understand the importance that now there is a written record |
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handmade34 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 01:52 PM Response to Original message |
18. quite a number of years ago |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 12:37 AM Response to Reply #18 |
81. it was shocking when I read it... |
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deutsey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 02:05 PM Response to Original message |
21. Orwell meant the book as a cautionary tale, but it's now being used as |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 03:20 PM Response to Reply #21 |
34. Patrarchy and violence .... |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 12:42 AM Response to Reply #21 |
82. Winston's "discussions"... |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 02:05 PM Response to Original message |
22. We live in very frightening times. |
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katty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 02:13 PM Response to Original message |
23. o we are there, all right |
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blackspade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 02:20 PM Response to Original message |
26. K&R! |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 02:20 PM Response to Original message |
27. We are there....and have been for a while now. George Orwell was actually an alien |
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zehnkatzen (769 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 03:53 PM Response to Reply #27 |
40. You don't have to be alien to know human nature … |
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old mark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 02:26 PM Response to Original message |
28. Look closely at the "Homeland Security" and the "Patriot Act" and |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 03:21 PM Response to Reply #28 |
35. Agree ... but neither Obama nor Dem Congress seems to be very concened ... !!! |
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old mark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 06:39 AM Response to Reply #35 |
101. Mr. Obama seems to love that stuff - he has NEVER made any statement |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 05:45 PM Response to Reply #28 |
59. so they know i live in another country |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 03:13 PM Response to Original message |
32. k&r |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 03:22 PM Response to Original message |
36. 1984 was a rational extension of what things were already like in the UK in 1948 |
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Locrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 03:34 PM Response to Original message |
37. I need a drink... |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 12:44 AM Response to Reply #37 |
83. but don't try to buy a pint of bitter... |
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MissDeeds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 03:55 PM Response to Original message |
41. K&R |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 04:14 PM Response to Original message |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 12:45 AM Response to Reply #42 |
84. welcome to DU... |
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asdjrocky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 04:16 PM Response to Original message |
43. It's far closer to A Brave New World. |
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KG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 04:45 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. we have shiny and sparkling objects now, but the drudgery and repression is right around the corner |
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asdjrocky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 04:47 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. You have to realize, it costs them next to nothing to deliver us stuff via TV. |
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LastLiberal in PalmSprings (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 04:56 PM Response to Reply #43 |
50. Read "Brave New World" online |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 05:47 PM Response to Reply #50 |
60. where are the mdma, sorry, soma fuled orgies going on at? |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 02:27 AM Response to Reply #60 |
94. It's called "Molly" now... |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 04:23 AM Response to Reply #94 |
97. in chicago molly or mali |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 05:43 AM Response to Reply #97 |
98. It's like asking why folks would mix THC and PCP. |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 05:49 AM Response to Reply #98 |
99. thc and pcp !!! |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 06:00 AM Response to Reply #99 |
100. people are funny. eom |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 12:46 AM Response to Reply #50 |
85. Thanks... |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 05:35 PM Response to Reply #43 |
58. Honestly, I think it is almost a combo of both... |
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LastLiberal in PalmSprings (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 04:49 PM Response to Original message |
46. Read "1984" online |
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mdmc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 04:55 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. thanks for the link |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 04:56 PM Response to Original message |
48. Kicked and recommended. |
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katty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 05:16 PM Response to Original message |
52. ReTHUGlicans & their minions are HOLDING UP all of us |
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harun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 05:20 PM Response to Original message |
53. The primary reason gov't's are so secret is to protect themselves from their citizenry, |
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the redcoat (510 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 05:27 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. Wow, a very interesting thought. +1000 nt |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 12:49 AM Response to Reply #55 |
86. That is why Jefferson... |
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indimuse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 05:34 PM Response to Original message |
57. KNR! n/t |
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wial (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 06:44 PM Response to Original message |
62. that would make a great bumper sticker |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 07:27 PM Response to Original message |
65. Where are those who would double-plus bad this slur on the double-plus good status quo? |
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newtothegame (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 07:59 PM Response to Original message |
66. None of this is true because the President is a Democrat. So it's all ok. nt |
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Kaleko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 08:46 PM Response to Original message |
67. A fine post. And yet we have the internet to keep information flowing between us |
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Politicub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 09:02 PM Response to Reply #67 |
69. Ever hear of net neutrality? |
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Kaleko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 09:39 PM Response to Reply #69 |
72. Yes, they're trying to chip away at net neutrality, of course. |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 02:39 AM Response to Reply #69 |
95. Content neutrality is not bandwidth neutrality. |
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colsohlibgal (670 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 09:55 PM Response to Original message |
73. Oh Yes! |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 10:41 PM Response to Original message |
74. Scary accurate, redcoat. Scary accurate. Rec. nt |
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Goldstein1984 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 11:19 PM Response to Original message |
75. I'm afraid that it's off to Room 101 with you now |
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Mosaic (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 12:02 AM Response to Original message |
76. Orwell Quote |
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OnyxCollie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 12:14 AM Response to Original message |
77. Facecrime |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 12:51 AM Response to Reply #77 |
87. holy shit... |
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NuclearDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 12:24 AM Response to Original message |
78. We have... |
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yowzayowzayowza (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 12:32 AM Response to Original message |
79. Hooey. n/t |
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somone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 12:36 AM Response to Original message |
80. GROPING IS PROTECTION |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 12:52 AM Response to Reply #80 |
88. that is what... |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 03:55 AM Response to Original message |
96. Orwell, Huxley, and others saw the evolution of this long ago. |
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Glassunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 04:34 PM Response to Original message |
104. What the hell are you talking about? Our government is keeping us safe... |
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