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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 04:48 AM Original message |
DKos: "It Wasn't Until I Left America I Realized How Badly American Plutocrat Owned Media Lies..." |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 05:01 AM Response to Original message |
1. Our corrupt for-profit health care system is run by doctors for doctors. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 05:14 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. it's run by financiers, insurance corps, & pharma corps. |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 05:31 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. The Frist family of doctors and their ilk created this mess. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 05:37 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. that's finance capital at work. rest assured, the frists didn't do it on their lonesome. |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 05:44 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Thanks, but I'm comfortable with my knowledge base. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 05:48 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. right, it's the doctors, not the money men. i work in a hospital too, & i know who runs it. |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 05:51 AM Response to Reply #10 |
11. I've represented hospitals and dealt with their owners. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 05:53 AM Response to Reply #11 |
12. more than you think. it's a small town, but a big hospital chain. |
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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 08:18 PM Response to Reply #4 |
52. When I was working as a nurse in the 70s and 80s |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 08:45 PM Response to Reply #52 |
59. When I was defending doctors and hospitals sued for malpractice in the 70s & 80s ... |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 05:37 AM Response to Reply #1 |
5. sorry, it's not "run by doctors", unfortunately. |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 05:47 AM Response to Reply #5 |
9. Yes, it is. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 05:54 AM Response to Reply #9 |
14. greed by finance capital. sorry you got the story wrong. |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 06:00 AM Response to Reply #14 |
15. You keep believing that. I don't get my info from specious sources. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 06:05 AM Response to Reply #15 |
16. what specious sources are those, TO? |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 06:14 AM Response to Reply #16 |
17. The sources you typically cite. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 06:16 AM Response to Reply #17 |
18. jack massey: financier of hca. financier of corrections corporation of america, kentucky fried |
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HillbillyBob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 05:41 AM Response to Reply #1 |
7. and if you try to explain to the most you get called fancy names like |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 06:27 AM Response to Reply #7 |
19. If you don't have insurance, they don't want you. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 06:44 AM Response to Reply #19 |
24. it;s because they;'re run by finance capital for the benefit of the stockholders. |
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bbgrunt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 01:37 PM Response to Reply #24 |
40. well, aside from the dead-certainess of certain points of |
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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 08:20 PM Response to Reply #19 |
53. My husband is a family doctor |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 08:38 PM Response to Reply #53 |
57. Your husband is the exception, not the rule. |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 06:48 PM Response to Reply #1 |
42. run by private insurance for private insurance |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 07:37 PM Response to Reply #42 |
50. Malpractice insurance is a tiny part of their costs. |
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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 08:22 PM Response to Reply #50 |
54. Our malpractice bill is enormous |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 08:36 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. What percentage of your gross revenues is it? |
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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 08:53 PM Response to Reply #56 |
61. 2 million! LOL |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 08:57 PM Response to Reply #61 |
64. Are you talking about your income or your gross revenues? |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 04:24 AM Response to Reply #50 |
78. ah, our hospitals are public |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 12:08 AM Response to Reply #42 |
73. Malpractice costs in their entirety are less than 1/2 of a percent of health care costs. |
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Divernan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 08:43 AM Response to Reply #42 |
82. Not according to Michael Moore's documentary, Sicko. |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 11:01 AM Response to Reply #82 |
85. i live here in france |
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MrScorpio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 05:08 AM Response to Original message |
2. Europe is quite the eye opener when it comes to how America actually is |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 05:54 AM Response to Original message |
13. Living abroad is an eye-opener. |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 06:29 AM Response to Reply #13 |
21. Civilized countries can't believe our system. |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 10:34 AM Response to Reply #21 |
33. Mostly people don't understand why Americans just accept things |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 08:41 PM Response to Reply #33 |
58. Because Americans believe advertising slogans. |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 06:42 AM Response to Reply #13 |
23. Ain't THAT the TRUTH! n/t |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 10:35 AM Response to Reply #23 |
34. I'm a better person for it. |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 10:21 AM Response to Reply #13 |
31. Yes it is and the US media has gotten worse |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 10:37 AM Response to Reply #31 |
35. TV was the first thing I noticed...the kinds of ads/commercials, news etc. |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 10:46 AM Response to Reply #35 |
37. At least over here we get reporting on how corrupt |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 10:53 AM Response to Reply #37 |
38. I went back to the states for a month a few years back |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 05:01 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. The last time I was back was a decade ago. |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 06:53 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. i disagree with this |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 03:58 PM Response to Reply #44 |
87. BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 06:52 PM Response to Reply #35 |
43. i left the usa in 2003, the year i completed grad school |
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Kievan Rus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 07:07 PM Response to Reply #43 |
48. I truly envy you |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 07:24 PM Response to Reply #43 |
49. Being an X=Patriot .... I love that term BTW |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 04:27 AM Response to Reply #49 |
79. i am an ex patriot |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 08:57 PM Response to Reply #31 |
63. GREAT analogy! nt |
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HCE SuiGeneris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 09:02 PM Response to Reply #31 |
65. Our contrived accident is killing us. |
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steve2470 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 06:28 AM Response to Original message |
20. Doctors, in general, feel entitled to very high incomes |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 06:37 AM Response to Reply #20 |
22. You're right about those who profit. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 06:45 AM Response to Reply #22 |
25. yeah, it's the docs pushing for poor sanitation practices. |
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nannah (690 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 09:57 PM Response to Reply #22 |
67. do you remember the article written by man MD and PHD in public health |
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Dappleganger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 06:59 PM Response to Reply #20 |
46. Specialists in particular. |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 11:06 PM Response to Reply #20 |
71. My GP works very hard and makes 60K a year. Is that "very high" then? nt |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 12:13 AM Response to Reply #71 |
74. No, of course not. Does he or she own a hospital? |
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steve2470 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 04:52 AM Response to Reply #71 |
80. It might be to some DU'ers but no, not compared to most physicians |
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MrModerate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 06:48 AM Response to Original message |
26. I've lived half my life outside the US, and it's not just the Europeans who think we're crazy. |
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ejpoeta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 07:04 AM Response to Reply #26 |
27. sometimes i would love to go somewhere else. it feels like we can't stop it. |
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MrModerate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 10:30 PM Response to Reply #27 |
68. I actually think that people in similar westernized countries . . . |
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whathehell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 08:58 AM Response to Reply #26 |
28. I'd have to take exception |
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MrModerate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 10:31 PM Response to Reply #28 |
69. Oh they love it, they just slag it in conversation whenever they want to show their superiority. |
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whathehell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 03:10 AM Response to Reply #69 |
76. "Just like Americans"? |
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MrModerate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 03:33 AM Response to Reply #76 |
77. I was referring to slagging "popular culture" which is one of the great . . . |
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whathehell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 06:51 AM Response to Reply #77 |
81. I get you. |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 10:59 AM Response to Reply #26 |
39. No democracy can survive an ignorant and stupid electorate |
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MrModerate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 10:32 PM Response to Reply #39 |
70. You're well within the blast radius. Take care. n/t |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 09:00 AM Response to Reply #70 |
83. True, however |
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City Lights (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 09:11 AM Response to Original message |
29. K&R. nt |
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Iterate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 10:06 AM Response to Original message |
30. Read the whole diary: It's about more than just healthcare |
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Juche (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 10:29 AM Response to Original message |
32. What they don't mention is third world nations are kicking our ass now |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 10:40 AM Response to Original message |
36. Just go across the border to Canada and you will see real news!! Read their papers.. |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 06:56 PM Response to Original message |
45. k&r |
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Kievan Rus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 07:05 PM Response to Original message |
47. To quote George Carlin: It's called the American dream, 'cause you've got to be asleep to believe it |
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Cali_Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 08:46 PM Response to Reply #47 |
60. LOL |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 08:10 PM Response to Original message |
51. I have the book mentioned titled |
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Shanti Mama (625 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 08:32 PM Response to Original message |
55. Living in South Asia, I get my news from all kinds of places |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 09:05 PM Response to Reply #55 |
66. Foreigner editions of Time and Newsweek are always fun |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 08:57 PM Response to Original message |
62. k&r --- |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-01-10 11:58 PM Response to Original message |
72. kick nt |
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MindandSoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 12:58 AM Response to Original message |
75. So glad someone finally realizes this! I was raised in Europe, and many members |
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axollot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 09:18 AM Response to Original message |
84. Lived it for over a decade in Australia so am very aware of how |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-02-10 11:04 AM Response to Original message |
86. Help us, World! |
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