"No, Have Not Used a Government Social Program"

[krispos42]

:banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

[trotsky]

1. Wish I could say "unbelievable"...

but sadly, it's entirely believable. Many Americans are shockingly ignorant.

[krispos42]

3. Apparantly, government-run health insurance just falls out of the sky...

Doncha know?

[mrcheerful]

6. People lie a lot

[trotsky]

8. What exactly are they lying about here? n/t

[Tuesday Afternoon]

10. +1

[mrcheerful]

17. People tend to deny things they do or get, it is like a farmer I knew

who I went to school with claimed his dads farm was self supporting, when he took over the farm after his father retired the farm subsidies stopped and the farm went bankrupt. The reason I remember this was in civics class the teacher brought up what tax dollars were used for, it being an school district with a lot of farm families, he brought up the fact that tax dollars were spent on local farms and he asked the kid to explain how his dad couldn't run the farm without the governments help, the kid claimed his dad didn't get help.

When the kid took over the farm he lost the farm subsidies and the farm went bankrupt.
I've run into these types of people over and over in the last 54 years, they get government help then claim they didn't, so I look at these type of statistics and assume that people lied about getting government help.

[trotsky]

22. No, a lot of them really are ignorant.

http://washingtonindependent.com/58847/everybody-loves-wacky-tea-party-signs-part-ii

[Amonester]

29. Or 'willfully' brainwashed...

by their corporate "ma$ter$" ...

and ma$ter$ they surely R, at every crime they commit

because they always 'manage' to get off scot-free (and richer).

What will it take?

[Kalyke]

2. How utterly sad.

Do you have a link to this?

[krispos42]

4. Alas, no. I found it on another website, I think. You'll have to Google it.

Sorry!

[gristy]

15. Google: No results found for "Social Governmental Issues and Participation Study"

Looks like a phantom study. Never done. If it was done, dollars to donuts it wasn't a very good study.

[jwirr]

21. I thought that also. The programs that are most used such as medicare

and SSA are denied more that the programs that are used by a few. The rank should be exactly the opposite IMO.

[krispos42]

24. Check out the link below. Sorry; I was out of the house for a while n/t

[ck4829]

5. "Get the government out of my medicare!"

A chunk of these people have to be tea whiners.

K&R.

[krispos42]

7. This is where my uncle is

The one with a master's degree from a state school, who works in a public high school, is a union member, and got student loans and grants.

:banghead:

[Blue_Tires]

9. that's usually how it works...

I see that mindset a lot here among the freedom-loving free marketers...Curse the largesse of BIG GUMMITT, knowing full well that their livlihoods are dependent on the huge military community here...

[Chan790]

11. Can I borrow this?

This should go viral, going to put it on Facebook and send it to every anti-teabagger group I'm in.

Can you or anybody else tell me what % of Americans overall have used a "Government Social Program"? I suspect it asymptotically-approaches 100% but it would be nice to have some verification of that.

[krispos42]

26. Knock yourself out

If you include yourself and your spouse, your minor children, and your parents, it's probably damn close to 100%.

Let's face it... the odds are pretty damn good that at least one of your parents will get SS and Medicare. The odds are also decent that at some point somebody used a social program to get a mortage, or go to school, or survive getting laid off, or help with nutrition.

[2Design]

12. when you vote for people to cut spending - these are the ones they cut

not their extravagant salaries and benefits or flowers on the tables at meetings or other wasteful things THEY do - Reagan taught me this
He said he would cut wasteful spending
He cut parks, and these types of programs and not waste in the government

Now it takes 20 people to shuffle five peoples paperwork

[leveymg]

13. There are a couple ways to answer the question honestly.

There's an answer, along the lines suggested in the article above, that any generic federal benefit qualifies. That's fine. But, there is a very specific legal definition of what constitutes a "welfare" or public benefits program, and that is restricted to cash value assistance such as Aid to Families With Dependent Children.

This is an important distinction when filling out applications related to other federal benefits, such as immigration, which do not allow green card holders to obtain Social Security benefits until and unless they have paid into the system for 40 quarters.

[gristy]

14. Google: No results found for "Social Governmental Issues and Participation Study"

Can you provide a link?

[krispos42]

23. I think I found it

It's referenced here, although the journal it is part of costs a nifty $30 to take a peek at

http://journals.cambridge.org/action/displayAbstract?fromPage=online&aid=7874752

[Overseas]

16. K&R. Shows the power of right wing propaganda. //nt

[cascadiance]

18. Here are some of these clueless...

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_gfXgxtBKpR8/SpAdQbETfiI/AAAAAAAAAWQ/5uxgyYwb3AY/s400/Say+No+to+Government+in+Medicare.jpg http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_QoT3-HCKDU0/SoTR6qIPgNI/AAAAAAAACew/GGdhX89nvtE/s400/guvmint+medicare.jpg

[krispos42]

25. Medicade?

Juice of medics mixed with water and sugar?

:rofl:

[valerief]

19. I think our species in devolving back to an amoebic state. I wonder

if the mouthbreathers believe in Devolution.

[dkf]

20. I used unemployment for two weeks 20 years ago.

Other than that haven't used any of those things listed.

[mainer]

27. Is mortgage interest deduction a "government social program?"

The homeowner works for the income, and the deduction allows him to keep a bit more of it. It's not that the government is giving him something; it's merely allowing him to keep a more of what he worked for.

I once saw a "tax refund" referred to as a "government social program." But that's like a guy taking ten dollars out of your wallet, giving you back five, and calling it his gift to you.

[krispos42]

28. Good question. I'm not sure, but I don't think so in this sense

Otherwise, being able to deduct paper clips would be a social program. And so would deducting the loss of the "Deepwater Horizon" last spring.