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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 10:05 AM
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Nancy, it is up to you.
You are still the leader of the House. You decide what comes to the floor for a vote. This President is not leading so you must.

Taxcuts for millionaires is not the solution to our economic problems, contrary to what a lot of Democrats are saying. It would be better to let all taxcuts expire rather than follow the dangerous path of the Republicans and, apparently, this President.

The Bush taxcuts were a horrible idea when they first passed in 2001. They are even more horrible now. Yes, most folks in the middle class would have to pay 5% more in taxes but this country is in such a mess that everyone really needs to sacrifice.

Offer the middle class taxcuts up for a vote. Take down the names of all those that vote against them. If the Republicans are successful in spinning it in any other way, that is a gamble worth taking. We will have the names.

But taxcuts for millionaires and below?! Get real. We must have revenue to run this government or we will have fallen prey to the "smaller government" mantra of the conservatives. Don't do it, Nancy. It is up to you. Let the taxcuts expire in entirety if they refuse to vote for the middle class tax cuts. All it takes is a little courage. It is very sad that our President is so lacking in that commodity.

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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 10:16 AM
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1. We ought to let all tax cuts expire. nt
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VMI Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 10:20 AM
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2. Pelosi is by far the strongest Democratic leader we have.
Obama could take some lessons from her.
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obxhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 10:56 AM
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9. Which is a very true and sad statement.
Edited on Wed Dec-01-10 10:57 AM by obxhead
I weep for America and its citizens. :cry: :cry: :cry:
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Larry Ogg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 11:23 AM
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12. Thank you... You managed to put it very nicely.
I wrote about ten sentences and threw it out... it was a meager attempt to describe the peril this country is in because true leaders never rise to the top anymore and it saddens me also, it doesn't have to be this way. I weep for the world...

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yodermon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 10:26 AM
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3. If they all expire
how long would the beneficial effects of the higher tax rates on the rich become apparent?

The conventional wisdom is the tax increases are ALWAYS BAD, full stop.

That meme is so powerful that even if the higher rates on the wealthy spurs job growth (for example), the electorate will simply believe what FUX tells them which is that "obama raised taxes" so he must be punished after all he's a taxandspendliberaldemocrat.

Sort of like the majority of folks thinks that Obama RAISED their taxes when actually he CUT them.
Reality is what FUX declares it to be.
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 10:28 AM
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4. if the tax cuts will be so great, why havent they been so? this cut has been around for 10 years
tax cuts for the rich will save the economy, except were fucked and they've been around for ten years.
why dont we hear this meme?
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 10:31 AM
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5. Of all the sad words or tongue or pen, the saddest are these:
"This President is not leading so you must."
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Larry Ogg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 10:52 AM
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6. If there is a term called "Class Warfare Legislation..."
I would have to say that Nancy has shown to be extremely "conservative" when it comes to issues that might upset_ what the Elite Predator Class considers their entitlement, i.e. to own everything and everyone...
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 10:53 AM
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7. The problem is in the Senate, kentuck. It's out of Pelosi's hands. n/t
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 10:55 AM
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8. I thought all tax bills and spending bills had to pass the House??
Edited on Wed Dec-01-10 10:56 AM by kentuck
Is that not correct? True, it has to pass the Senate also but if Nancy does not let it out of the House, it doesn't get to the Senate.
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 11:08 AM
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10. Entire Senate Republican Caucus Commits To Filibustering Anything Prior To Budget, Tax Cuts
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 11:12 AM
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11. The Republicans are betting their entire stack of chips...
..on the stupidity of the American people. The Democrats need to call their bluff.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 12:11 PM
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13. She never led before why would she lead now? shaking head, how's her powder doing?
Edited on Wed Dec-01-10 12:12 PM by flyarm
is her table still empty??????? while she rides around her kitchen in a golf cart.......
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 11:41 PM
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14. I'm unrecommending this
Nancy has busted her ass to get hundreds of bills passed only to be stabbed in the back by the Senate and White House.
Now is not the time to be picking on the only one who works for us.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 11:50 PM
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16. the White House never 'stabbed' the House on any bill they passed
Edited on Wed Dec-01-10 11:53 PM by bigtree
The president never vetoed anything that's passed through that body to his desk, other than the Foreclosure Documents Bill and the Interstate Recognition of Notarizations Act.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 11:55 PM
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17. How is the op picking on her?
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 11:44 PM
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15. the Speaker has ALWAYS had the prerogative on tax legislation
. . . over the President. So does the Senate, for that matter.

She's expecting a compromise, just like the President. She''ll bring that compromise (if one emerges in her leadership term) to the House floor and likely vote for it.
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