KansasVoter
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Thu Dec-02-10 10:13 AM
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I hate them, but the damn GOP know how to support their base!!!! |
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I wish we had 10% of the guts and tenancy that they do.
They are idiots and assholes but if you were a GOP supporter you would know they were going to push their agenda, no matter what popular opinion is.
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Thu Dec-02-10 10:19 AM
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They can energize their base to gotv etc while at the exact same time fucking them over completely.
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Thu Dec-02-10 10:35 AM
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12. That's the part that never ceases to amaze me...how they get folks to vote against their own.. |
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Edited on Thu Dec-02-10 10:35 AM by truebrit71
...interests is one of the greatest political feats of all time..
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Thu Dec-02-10 10:47 AM
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13. They are so good at confusing people on the tax issue. "Dems are going to raise your TAXES!!!!" |
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um, no. Not unless you are a millionaire. And you aren't. You don't even know that Obama cut your taxes.
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Thu Dec-02-10 11:07 AM
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15. Actually, it doesn't surprise me at all.... |
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I think if you look hard enough, it really comes down to shared sacrifice and a longer term view.
Not defending, just analyzing what I see.
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Thu Dec-02-10 12:37 PM
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19. It shouldn't amaze you |
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YOU know what is in your best interest, THEY don't. THEY know what is in they're best interest, YOU don't.
Accept that simple fact and it would be neither amazing or great.
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Thu Dec-02-10 10:23 AM
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Thu Dec-02-10 10:23 AM
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3. I think rather their base knows how to support them |
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Think about the 8 years of the Bush administration and the years of Republican control of Congress. The base, oh so devoted to fiscal responsibility, did not mind that their Republican legislators were "spending like drunken sailors," that Bush rammed through deficit skyrocketing legislation like the tax cuts, the (unpaid for) prescription drug plan, or the war in Iraq.
They swooned when their guy initiated endless new TSA regulations (including, yes, pat downs of an intrusive nature) ... but are up in arms over the TSA now.
The Republican base (despite recent Tea Party inroads) does not criticize its own. It internalized this ever since Reagan made it a leitmotif of the party in the 80s. We do.
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Thu Dec-02-10 10:32 AM
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9. Mostly agree, but their base does critcize its own during primary season, but then closes ranks |
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Edited on Thu Dec-02-10 10:32 AM by pampango
and supports repub candidates in the general election and while in office. If the mainstream repub beats a tea bagger in the primary, the baggers don't go "third party" or "let's sit this one out" on the party. And while the repub is in office (like Bush), indeed they "don't criticize their own".
I'm not sure that most Democrats are willing or able to do the same. And perhaps we shouldn't be but that does limit our ability to have the same effect in our party that the tea baggers have in theirs.
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Thu Dec-02-10 10:27 AM
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4. True, if by "base" you mean billionaires. If you mean people in the lower classes, |
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then it would be more accurate to say Repubs know how to brainwash them.
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KansasVoter
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Thu Dec-02-10 10:33 AM
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10. So only Billionaires are voting for them? Get real!!! |
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Thu Dec-02-10 10:50 AM
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14. The top 2% cant elect any body by themselves. Although they can certainly fund the LIE ADS |
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Republicans are so good at
- obsfugating the issues - appealing to the lizard brain (guns gays god) - and lying.
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Thu Dec-02-10 10:28 AM
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5. They only support the top percent of their base. |
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They send the rest to a living *ell. That should be noted.
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Thu Dec-02-10 10:29 AM
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6. It's frightening, really. |
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A simple case of the evil leading the stupid. They've really tapped into the hatred that fuels their base.
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Thu Dec-02-10 10:30 AM
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7. They don't support their base, they delude them ... |
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Right wingers are building gallows, totally unaware they will soon be hung on them.
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Thu Dec-02-10 10:31 AM
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8. Democrats honor principle over politics. |
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Therein lies the difference.
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Thu Dec-02-10 11:35 AM
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Thu Dec-02-10 12:27 PM
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18. I've seen a lot of dishonoring of principle over the last 10 years |
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Thu Dec-02-10 12:38 PM
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Edited on Thu Dec-02-10 12:39 PM by Individualist
They honor "pragmatism" over principle. (Pragmatism: enabling neocons.)
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Thu Dec-02-10 01:56 PM
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22. I was referring to Democrats, not DLC New Dems. nt |
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Thu Dec-02-10 02:00 PM
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23. "Democrats honor principle over politics." |
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Are you referring to our reps? If so, this is a pathetic joke.
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Thu Dec-02-10 10:34 AM
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11. They create it. Their base is manufactured consent. |
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Edited on Thu Dec-02-10 10:55 AM by mmonk
The Democrats on the other hand it seems, work to fool their base until it doesn't work any more and then they lose through alienation of our base.
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Thu Dec-02-10 12:25 PM
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17. Actually they have been dissapointed but are smart enough to vote against dems |
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Thu Dec-02-10 12:39 PM
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21. They aren't supporting their base |
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They are able to convince their base they are supporting them when in reality they are supporting the billionaires who fund their campaigns. But your average every day next door neighbor who always votes GOP is not supported by the republican party. Not even close.
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