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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-10 04:55 PM
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The Coming Latino Revolt (vs. Obama and Democrats)
http://www.sanfranciscosentinel.com/?p=96807

It’s zero hour for the DREAM Act, a bit of immigration legislation that has taken on a hulking importance among Hispanic leaders. For two years, Barack Obama failed—or, if you prefer, refused—to nudge along a major immigration bill. The last-ditch hope is that departing Democrats, and a few Republicans, somehow band together in the lame-duck session and pass a law allowing illegal immigrants who came to the United States as minors to gain citizenship. Harry Reid promised to bring up the bill for a Senate cloture vote this week. Republicans vowed to scuttle it, just as they did in September.

The DREAM Act, Gutiérrez says, is for now his final legislative maneuver. He’s finished waiting for the mythical 60th vote to materialize in the Senate. No, when the lame duck ends, Gutiérrez and his movement allies will ask for a divorce—from the Democratic Party, from the entire lawmaking process. To hear Gutiérrez tell it, Hispanic leaders are about to stage a full-tilt campaign of direct action, like the African-American civil-rights movement of the 1960s. There will be protests, marches, sit-ins—what César Chávez might have called going rogue. The movement will operate autonomously, no longer beholden to wavering Democrats, filibustering Republicans, and—perhaps most tantalizingly—no longer beholden to Barack Obama.

None of this is to say Latino voters have dumped Obama. “The honeymoon is not quite over,” says Fernand Amandi, the managing partner of the polling firm Bendixen & Amandi. A June Gallup poll showed Obama down more than 10 points among Hispanics. But as the midterms neared, the immigrant salvos of candidates like Jan Brewer and Sharron Angle made the president seem more appealing to Hispanic voters. If Obama had once looked like the hesitator-in-chief, next to Brewer and Angel he looked like César Chávez. Hispanics voted overwhelmingly for Democrats.

This, then, is the dilemma for Hispanic leaders: They find themselves wedded to a president and a party that is their only conceivable hope to pass immigration reform. But the president and the party—because of the GOP, or because of internal priorities—could not pass immigration reform. Which brings us to the divorce. “I haven’t thought this out completely,” Gutiérrez says in the church. Then he begins tentatively spelling out a plan to sever the immigration-reform movement from the Democrats.
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lunamagica Donating Member (430 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-10 05:08 PM
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1. Why has this thread been unrecommended?
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-10 05:14 PM
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2. Folks trying to hide the truth
as usual.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-10 05:18 PM
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6. Perhaps DUers don't like right-wing agitprop blogger stories. nt
Edited on Thu Dec-02-10 05:21 PM by TheWraith
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-10 05:39 PM
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12. Or perhaps the DUers are incapable of critical thinking nt
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-10 05:16 PM
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5. .
Edited on Thu Dec-02-10 05:17 PM by Swamp Rat
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-10 05:15 PM
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3. I think I may want to enroll in a crash course in Spanish.
Joining the revolution is always an option.

Can you hear the drums fernando?
I remember long ago another starry night like this
In the firelight fernando
You were humming to yourself and softly strumming your guitar
I could hear the distant drums
And sounds of bugle calls were coming from afar

They were closer now fernando
Every hour every minute seemed to last eternally
I was so afraid fernando
We were young and full of life and none of us prepared to die
And I’m not ashamed to say
The roar of guns and cannons almost made me cry

There was something in the air that night
The stars were bright, fernando
They were shining there for you and me
For liberty, fernando
Though I never thought that we could lose
There’s no regret
If I had to do the same again
I would, my friend, fernando

Now we’re old and grey fernando
And since many years I haven’t seen a rifle in your hand
Can you hear the drums fernando?
Do you still recall the frightful night we crossed the rio grande?
I can see it in your eyes
How proud you were to fight for freedom in this land

There was something in the air that night
The stars were bright, fernando
They were shining there for you and me
For liberty, fernando
Though I never thought that we could lose
There’s no regret
If I had to do the same again
I would, my friend, fernando

There was something in the air that night
The stars were bright, fernando
They were shining there for you and me
For liberty, fernando
Though I never thought that we could lose
There’s no regret
If I had to do the same again
I would, my friend, fernando
Yes, if I had to do the same again
I would, my friend, fernando...
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COLGATE4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-10 05:28 PM
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8. It makes for a much better ABBA song lyric than it does in real
life.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-10 05:40 PM
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14. No shit.
I have 3 bullet holes & blown-out ears from the last from the last time I got my ass into a mess like that, 42 years ago in SE Asia.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-10 05:15 PM
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4. Bullshit from a right-wing agitprop rag.
Try reading some of their other headlines:

POLITICAL EARTHQUAKE IN THE UNITED STATES - SWEEPING REPUBLICAN VICTORY PROVES AMERICA INDEED CENTER-TO-RIGHT NATION

OBAMA’S INABILITY TO ARTICULATE HIS PLANS GENERATES SENSE OF PRESIDENCY ON VERGE OF FAILURE

PLURALITY OF CALIFORNIA VOTERS SUPPORT ARIZONA IMMIGRATION LAW - SCHWARZENEGGER DEPLOYS NATIONAL GUARD TO MEXICO BORDER

SARAH PALIN BITCH SLAPS THE MEDIA

STEREOTYPES DON’T TELL WHOLE STORY OF TEA PARTY MOVEMENT
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-10 05:29 PM
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9. Thank you for pointing this out:
(snip)

In its early version, the Web site was known as the "District 6 Sentinel" and was listed as a political committee in San Francisco. Murphy said he later had renamed the site with the intention of operating it as a journalist, not as a political activist.

A frequent critic of the media, Daly detailed his falling out with Murphy in an April column on the supervisor's blog titled, "What Happened to Pat Murphy?" In it, Daly said Murphy had "been turned into a political hatchet man for my political opponents."

In his blog and on Tuesday, Daly said Murphy, who admits he struggles to break even with the Sentinel, had offered to sell him editorial control of the site for $1,500. Daly said he had refused.

(snip)

http://articles.sfgate.com/2005-08-17/bay-area/17387873_1_pat-murphy-web-daly
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-10 05:21 PM
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7. They don't have to get a divorce from the Democratic party to go rogue
Cesar Chavez was like Martin Luther King Jr. in that they moved governments with peaceful but intense activism. They never used any kind of violence, not even angry words. They inspired and they lead and they put in the time in years that was needed to get the job done.
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-10 05:34 PM
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10. I don't get it. Democrats have been working nonstop to get this legislation through.
It's the Republicans who keep blocking it.
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-10 05:40 PM
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13. Exactly
This makes no sense to me whatsoever.
:wtf:
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galileoreloaded Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-10 05:37 PM
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11. The new tribal third-rail, im telling ya............noone is gonna touch immigration with a ten foot
pole....

It is the poison pill that SS/Medicare used to be.
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